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For both Newegg and Amazon it's really more about who you're actually buying the drives from since both sites allow 3rd party sellers to post things for sale. If you're buying the drive direct from Newegg or Amazon it should be packaged correctly; however if you're buying it from a 3rd party seller on the site it's more of a crapshoot as to how well the drive is packaged.
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Krailor posted:For both Newegg and Amazon it's really more about who you're actually buying the drives from since both sites allow 3rd party sellers to post things for sale. If you're buying the drive direct from Newegg or Amazon it should be packaged correctly; however if you're buying it from a 3rd party seller on the site it's more of a crapshoot as to how well the drive is packaged. Newegg is famous for packing stuff like crap, even purchased directly from them. Between that and their piss-poor return policy (Charging for return shipping on DOA products? gently caress you), I'm an Amazon guy through and through. Amazon normally matches their sale prices within a day or two, if it's a long-term sale.
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Mar 6, 2016 06:37
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Mar 6, 2016 07:25
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I've had nothing but perfect condition stuff from Newegg, but I live literally an hour away from them
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Mar 6, 2016 11:58
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One of the reasons I stopped buying books from Amazon was the packaging that always resulted in dented books. It's very hit and miss, and I don't know what the trick is to always getting the right packaging, but entering something in the text field for the order probably doesn't hurt.
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I setup a raidz2 array and enabled compression. I tested it originally by copying some random files and it seemed to be working fine. It no longer seems to be working after I've copied a few terabytes to it. I tested with a few large text files to make sure its not just that data I have stored currently and they had the exact same size my regular drive as the pool. Have I changed something obvious here without realising? zfs get all output
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Say I avoid the bare drive and buy the retail packaged version for a fiver more, can I assume that counts as being packaged properly, whatever the condition of the bigger box and the amount of padding they choose to ship it in?
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Donald Duck posted:I setup a raidz2 array and enabled compression. I tested it originally by copying some random files and it seemed to be working fine. It no longer seems to be working after I've copied a few terabytes to it. I tested with a few large text files to make sure its not just that data I have stored currently and they had the exact same size my regular drive as the pool. Have I changed something obvious here without realising? You've copied 5.25TB of data, was a lot of that incompressible? ZFS doesn't write compressed records unless it sees at least a 12.5% decrease in disk usage, and a large volume of incompressible media will more or less lock your compressratio to 1.00. Have you looked at the files themselves, not just the drive as a whole? I use LZ4 compression as well and on a bunch of source code I see du -A reporting numbers about twice as high as du.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Say I avoid the bare drive and buy the retail packaged version for a fiver more, can I assume that counts as being packaged properly, whatever the condition of the bigger box and the amount of padding they choose to ship it in? Generally yes unless the retail package is punctured or something crazy like that.
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havenwaters posted:Generally yes unless the retail package is punctured or something crazy like that.
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WD released a 8TB version of the My Book Desktop External drive. Has anybody heard anything about it? I've been thinking about consolidating my current drives into a single set-up.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Cool, thanks. All the stories about improperly packaged drives had me worried, but if that adds an extra layer of insurance against the hassle of having to return it, then that's worth 5€ to me. I bought 5 drives on Amazon recently, one of them was from some random seller because Amazon would only let me order 4 from them direct. The 5th one ended up being retail packaging for some reason, and didn't seem to be packed as well as the 4 OEM drives. I tested them all before putting them in my NAS though, and haven't had any issues thus far. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2801557&pagenumber=329&perpage=40#post453714531
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Call Me Charlie posted:WD released a 8TB version of the My Book Desktop External drive. Has anybody heard anything about it? My approach is getting a 8TB internal/external drive to back things up to. Putting all of your eggs into a single cheap usb enclosure is very risky. I've seen a lot of them fail.
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mayodreams posted:My approach is getting a 8TB internal/external drive to back things up to. Putting all of your eggs into a single cheap usb enclosure is very risky. I've seen a lot of them fail. I just got the 8TB Seagate 'archive' 5400RPM drive. It is only for backups, and I got the internal drive with the 3 year waranty. I don't trust Seagate for poo poo but for like $215 it is hard to beat at 8TB.
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Just to parrot what everyone else has said, if you literally don't care about your 8TB of data, go hog wild. If you do care about your data - don't.
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eightysixed posted:Just to parrot what everyone else has said, if you literally don't care about your 8TB of data, go hog wild. If you do care about your data - don't. It's just movies currently spread out over three external drives. I figured I could get the 8 TB one, put the data on it and leave the old drives as backup. My current drives are getting a little long in the tooth and I'm worried about the Seagate one dying all of the sudden. I've already had one of their 3 TB drive bite the dust a year after I bought it. redeyes posted:I just got the 8TB Seagate 'archive' 5400RPM drive. It is only for backups, and I got the internal drive with the 3 year waranty. I don't trust Seagate for poo poo but for like $215 it is hard to beat at 8TB. The WD one is $250. That's why I was kicking it around as an option.
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Call Me Charlie posted:My current drives are getting a little long in the tooth and I'm worried about the Seagate one dying all of the sudden. I've already had one of their 3 TB drive bite the dust a year after I bought it. RAID5 or 6?
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It's been a while since the OP has been updated, so just to make sure I have current information, is there any reason for me to build my own NAS setup if all I plan to do with it is store video for playback from an HTPC? I've got about 5TB of 720p video, but I plan to start replacing that with 1080P and 4K video, so I'll need room to grow. The Drobo 5n sounds like it should be well-suited to this, but I didn't see Drobo mentioned much, if at all, in the couple pages I just skimmed. I did see Synology come up a few times; is there a particular reason to prefer one to the other?
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Toast Museum posted:It's been a while since the OP has been updated, so just to make sure I have current information, is there any reason for me to build my own NAS setup if all I plan to do with it is store video for playback from an HTPC? I've got about 5TB of 720p video, but I plan to start replacing that with 1080P and 4K video, so I'll need room to grow. The Drobo 5n sounds like it should be well-suited to this, but I didn't see Drobo mentioned much, if at all, in the couple pages I just skimmed. I did see Synology come up a few times; is there a particular reason to prefer one to the other? Drobo's are slow, overpriced, and proprietary. Synology is not. The reason to roll your own is more control and more performance if you're doing anything other than what you're doing. So, basically, get a Synology.
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Toast Museum posted:It's been a while since the OP has been updated, so just to make sure I have current information, is there any reason for me to build my own NAS setup if all I plan to do with it is store video for playback from an HTPC? I've got about 5TB of 720p video, but I plan to start replacing that with 1080P and 4K video, so I'll need room to grow. The Drobo 5n sounds like it should be well-suited to this, but I didn't see Drobo mentioned much, if at all, in the couple pages I just skimmed. I did see Synology come up a few times; is there a particular reason to prefer one to the other? The Drobo is basically using witchcraft and voodoo magic to hold your data together. God help you if the enclosure dies.
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Skandranon posted:The Drobo is basically using witchcraft and voodoo magic to hold your data together. God help you if the enclosure dies. Is Synology's "hybrid RAID" similar voodoo? Their forum's wiki says it's not proprietary, which is something, but how much of a pain in the rear end is it to recover data from such an array if the enclosure dies? I've read enough of the thread to see that RAID 5 is dicey with large disks, but I don't know if I should be leaning toward RAID 6, Synology's hybrid RAID, or something else. Being able to add larger disks without having to replace every disk sounds nice, but not nearly as nice if it creates a bunch of other hassles.
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I had Drobo as my first NAS. Struggled with it for a year - was slow, randomly hung / crashed. Server apps for it are basically non existent and poorly supported if at all. Never again. Got a Synology, 3 years later still couldn't be happier with it; IO speed, apps, its management UI, remote management / access are great.
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Toast Museum posted:Is Synology's "hybrid RAID" similar voodoo? Their forum's wiki says it's not proprietary, which is something, but how much of a pain in the rear end is it to recover data from such an array if the enclosure dies? I've read enough of the thread to see that RAID 5 is dicey with large disks, but I don't know if I should be leaning toward RAID 6, Synology's hybrid RAID, or something else. Being able to add larger disks without having to replace every disk sounds nice, but not nearly as nice if it creates a bunch of other hassles. No, it is just an mdadm array.
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Anyone have experience with AsRock Rack boards? I've been eyeing one of the new Xeon E3 v5's + Mini ITX board (really want to make that Node 304 with 6 drives work) for a FreeNAS build, and there's only really two options; This Supermicro (which I'm lead to believe is the gold standard brand) $189, But it's on the older chipset and such only has 5 SATA ports + an M.2. The newegg description says it uses Non-ECC RAM but if I'm reading SM's 1998 style website correctly it can take either? Because a workstation/server-ish board that can't use ECC RAM would be worthless?  And these Asrock Rack boards http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813599009 $199, 8 SATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813599005 $259, 6 SATA, M.2, IPMI Given they recommend booting off a USB stick, an M.2 SSD for the OS is likely overkill; and that I probably don't need IPMI for something in my home (right?), I could just go with the cheaper Asrock.
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AsRock Rack makes good stuff, buy with confidence. I think Supermicro might also charge extra for unlocking IPMI, or was that another brand that I heard does that?
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Goddamn. Was all stressing out about upgrading the drive in my Diskstation, but it turns out there's like 600GB in the recycle bin folders. Can't you configure them to toss out anything trashed over a month ago or something? I'm not sure where to look.
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One of the Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 in my RAID 5 kicked it, what's a good NAS drive at the 2TB size right now under $100 that will play nice in an array with 2 more of those? I'm a bit out of the game. Appreciate it.
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The Milkman posted:Anyone have experience with AsRock Rack boards? I've been eyeing one of the new Xeon E3 v5's + Mini ITX board (really want to make that Node 304 with 6 drives work) for a FreeNAS build, and there's only really two options; priznat posted:I think Supermicro might also charge extra for unlocking IPMI, or was that another brand that I heard does that?
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HP require a valid support contract to be in place on a server to get certain updates. iLO is still a one-off purchase as it's always been as far as I know. The HP Service Pack for ProLiant is a quarterly-released DVD9 image and contains every update for non-EOL servers. I can't imagine it being particularly hard to obtain from er, alternative sources.
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priznat posted:AsRock Rack makes good stuff, buy with confidence. I bought a Supermicro board for my new server build and IPMI works out of the box. There is even an iPhone app!
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Flipperwaldt posted:Goddamn. Was all stressing out about upgrading the drive in my Diskstation, but it turns out there's like 600GB in the recycle bin folders. You do it from the Task Scheduler. Control Panel->Task Scheduler (in advanced mode, or just search for it). Click Create, then Recycle Bin. There's options to make it auto-clean on a schedule, including only deleting contents that are X days old. I have mine auto-delete anything less than a week old every week.
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mayodreams posted:I bought a Supermicro board for my new server build and IPMI works out of the box. There is even an iPhone app! Yeah, licensing IPMI does not sound like Supermicro to me. If a SM board has no IPMI, it's because it's physically removed. Some of their general market boards don't have it, but more often these days it seems you'll find custom OEM stuff they do where they drop it to shave some pennies for the original buyer. The X8SI6 I have is done that way - the regular market could only buy the X8SI6-F with IPMI. The used one I bought that was some form of ReadyNAS before, has no IPMI, but is still silkscreened as an X8SI6.
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Glad it's not Supermicro, I like their stuff. Anyone got an X11 board for a NAS setup yet? What CPU? X11SSM-F looks like it would be a great home server/NAS board.
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EpicCodeMonkey posted:You do it from the Task Scheduler. Control Panel->Task Scheduler (in advanced mode, or just search for it). Click Create, then Recycle Bin. There's options to make it auto-clean on a schedule, including only deleting contents that are X days old. I have mine auto-delete anything less than a week old every week.
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mcsuede posted:One of the Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 in my RAID 5 kicked it, what's a good NAS drive at the 2TB size right now under $100 that will play nice in an array with 2 more of those? I'm a bit out of the game. Appreciate it. Just get another Hitachi NAS drive or possibly a WD Red.
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my new 8TB drive shows up as 7.2TB.. this marketing poo poo is getting annoying
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redeyes posted:my new 8TB drive shows up as 7.2TB.. this marketing poo poo is getting annoying What is annoying is that most operating systems haven't yet acknowledged 30+ years of storage industry reality and >100 years of convention in other technical and industrial fields. It's such a simple thing to display file sizes and disk capacities using proper SI power-of-10 unit prefixes. OS X is the notable exception and guess what, feels good when your 8TB drive shows up as 8TB because it actually is 8.0 trillion bytes.
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Computers interpret "Giga" "Mega" and "Tera" bytes as powers of two, instead of powers of ten. And by computers, I mean dumb poo poo like windows. The proper amount of space is actually there, it's just displayed dumb. What Windows is actually reporting is space in "Gibi" "Mibi" and "Tebi" bytes, or GiB, MiB, TiB.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Computers interpret "Giga" "Mega" and "Tera" bytes as powers of two, instead of powers of ten. And by computers, I mean dumb poo poo like windows. The proper amount of space is actually there, it's just displayed dumb. It might be useful for drives, but I'm not sure I would be completely happy when the OS tells me I have 34.3597 GB of RAM.
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