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Annointed posted:So in short the clown that tears the right into nothingness? He's a good guy besides the fact that he really likes to argue. He's a good guy he's just REALLY nitpicky Sorry Cingulate that's my two cents
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:He's a good guy besides the fact that he really likes to argue. He's a good guy he's just REALLY nitpicky But enough about your favorite neoreactionary
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:As a I don't want Trump to die, but I won't feel a twinge of empathy for him if he did drop dead today. Because the very least he's keeping much, much more dangerous candidates like Cruz from taking center stage. He's also ripping off the final mask covering the GOP's bigotry so that a lot of the more moderate base and undecideds can no longer ignore it. And while they might not vote for the Democratic candidate, a not insignificant portion of them isn't going to vote Republican again any time soon, Trump candidacy or not. So let him keep on keeping on, and let the trumpster fire burn. I hope this post wasn't too dehumanizing for some of this thread's more fragile posters.
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Who What Now posted:I don't want Trump to die, but I won't feel a twinge of empathy for him if he did drop dead today. Because the very least he's keeping much, much more dangerous candidates like Cruz from taking center stage. He's also ripping off the final mask covering the GOP's bigotry so that a lot of the more moderate base and undecideds can no longer ignore it. And while they might not vote for the Democratic candidate, a not insignificant portion of them isn't going to vote Republican again any time soon, Trump candidacy or not. So let him keep on keeping on, and let the trumpster fire burn.
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I have to say Jordan Owen's Sierra Leoneliness is loving hilarious, especially that dude's Facebook rebuttal to what a giant baby he is. I mean, it must be quite depressing for someone you look up to deciding to call you a giant dingus for the world to see, but for Jordon "Check out me nude in the bath" Owen he's gone above and beyond the call of duty for negating my sympathy.
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Cingulate posted:I acknowledge that you're trying to change. I'm not.  Tesseraction posted:I have to say Jordan Owen's Sierra Leoneliness is loving hilarious, especially that dude's Facebook rebuttal to what a giant baby he is. Got screencaps?
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Who What Now posted:Got screencaps? One better, it's the new hbomberguy video:
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https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709158187795087360 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709159622012227584 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709160046094118917 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709198367906209792 You fools afraid of Trump's bringing about a new era of fascism but don't stop to think of the new Pol Pot. Anti-Trump protesters are pushing people around and getting angry for chrissakes, what more evidence do you need?
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Obviously the solution is to purge the intelligentsia, that's exactly what Pol Pot wouldn't do.
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Fututor Magnus posted:https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709160046094118917 George Soros, noted communist. At this point Trump supporters need a safe space, and some trigger warnings!
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What's great is that they clearly do want the exact thing they accuse the dark liberal conspiracy of wanting, just for their awful ideas. I have heard so much bitching about the very idea that recent combat veterans might prefer not to watch war films in undergraduate courses, I swear.
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Nessus posted:Beating up protestors or random minorities = youthful high spirits  Fututor Magnus posted:Scott on tumblr going through the usual rounds of criticising straw leftists (no sources but some nonsense from facebook?) for not properly criticising an "assassination attempt" which he agrees wasn't an assassination attempt. coyo7e has a new favorite as of 05:58 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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coyo7e posted:The edited video of Dimassimo with an uzi and an ISIS flag was truly amazing, though, if you can still find it somewhere. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW8pfd1wpK4&t=92s Linked in the comments, loving lmao
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divabot posted:You know, you really should read I feel like a wiki like this should start with at least some articles that aren't explaining the beliefs of a small subculture.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I feel like a wiki like this should start with at least some articles that aren't explaining the beliefs of a small subculture. The Rocket Alignment Problem has certainly informed me. More generally, crank wikis are almost de rigeur in the last decade. Crank up a copy of MediaWiki, fill it with your essays all linking to each other, open editing, close it at the first editor who disagrees with you on anything. But! Let's be fair! They haven't even properly launched yet! This could be brilliant and the way of the future! We could be looking at the next Wikipedia here! Though the next Citizendium is rather more likely.
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divabot posted:The Rocket Alignment Problem has certainly informed me. That's a terrible article! So terrible that my primary criticism of MIRI has changed, it's no longer "They do not produce anything". They do not produce anything except excuses for why we shouldn't expect them to produce anything, which is much worse. They're essentially arguing "sure, it looks useless to you, but we expected it to!", without addressing the obvious question: "how do you know it isn't useless, then?". They've chosen the analogy of developing orbital mechanics prior to building rockets, but the arguments would be identical if they'd chosen the analogy of developing the science of alchemy before attempting to capture phlogiston. Even worse, they've cataloged this EXACT kind of argumentative error before. By their own standards, their arguments are "fully general" (https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Fully_general_counterargument) and would apply to even a hypothetical MIRI where the direction of research was "how many AIs can dance on the head of a pin?" or something equally insane.
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divabot posted:The Rocket Alignment Problem has certainly informed me. quote:(The year is 1871.)
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So humble to dub themselves the Alphas, too. Why not "Primus" and "Secundus"?
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SolTerrasa posted:Even worse, they've cataloged this EXACT kind of argumentative error before. By their own standards, their arguments are "fully general" (https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Fully_general_counterargument) and would apply to even a hypothetical MIRI where the direction of research was "how many AIs can dance on the head of a pin?" or something equally insane. As someone or other said in this thread before, the best Yudkowsky writing refutes the worst (maybe even the median) Yudkowsky writing.
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Silver2195 posted:[Kahneman quotes] refute[...] Yudkowsky writing.
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Nessus posted:So humble to dub themselves the Alphas, too. Why not "Primus" and "Secundus"? I still love the fact that it was an Octavius who finally made it by rather than any of these higher ranked names.
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I must have really missed the point of the Rocket Alignment article because I came away thinking it was written about how the Alphas can't actually commit to anything beyond vague pipedreams and the Betas are frustrated because they would also like to go to the moon but how exactly would you like to go about doing this??
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Freudian posted:I must have really missed the point of the Rocket Alignment article because I came away thinking it was written about how the Alphas can't actually commit to anything beyond vague pipedreams and the Betas are frustrated because they would also like to go to the moon but how exactly would you like to go about doing this?? I might be Explaining The Joke but the idea is that the Betas are being really irritating by asking that the Alphas exclusively focus on research which will be useful right this second under already understood frameworks. I am in the target audience as an AI professional and amateur space nerd, but the gist is that the Alphas are just about to discover that direct ascent trajectories are inefficient, if only the pesky Betas would let them do their basic research in peace. In the world that is constructed here, that sort of makes sense, but the analogy is a little too on the nose: the Alphas should of course be able to describe the general shape of their research even in vague terms, like "we think we should aim where the moon will be instead of where it is" or even better "we think that if we account for gravity we'll have a better idea of how to do trajectory planning". MIRI, of course, can't do that, so the purpose of the analogy forces the Alphas to look artificially stupid, and the Betas even more so.
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SolTerrasa posted:In the world that is constructed here, that sort of makes sense, but the analogy is a little too on the nose: the Alphas should of course be able to describe the general shape of their research even in vague terms, like "we think we should aim where the moon will be instead of where it is" or even better "we think that if we account for gravity we'll have a better idea of how to do trajectory planning". MIRI, of course, can't do that, so the purpose of the analogy forces the Alphas to look artificially stupid, and the Betas even more so. Also the Alphas in this analogy have a mediocre understanding of algebra at best (certainly none of calculus) and also spend all their time writing stories about King Arthur, except it's somehow totally relevant to rocketry you guys
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Nessus posted:So humble to dub themselves the Alphas, too. Why not "Primus" and "Secundus"? Presumably because they're also steeped in MRA jargon.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/49pj9d/kim_suozzis_horrifically_botched_cryopreservation/d0u8wl0 Seems like this guy's already got ice crystals forming in the brain.
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eschaton posted:Also the Alphas in this analogy have a mediocre understanding of algebra at best (certainly none of calculus) and also spend all their time writing stories about King Arthur, except it's somehow totally relevant to rocketry you guys Also they're attempting to solve spaceflight using aristotelian physics and a ptolemaic model of the cosmos, while dismissing the people making inroads on newtonian mechanics.
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Woolie Wool posted:A leftist singularity? Is that a red hole? It comes back, as all things do, to Jim
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/49pj9d/kim_suozzis_horrifically_botched_cryopreservation/d0u8wl0 I like how the SSC reddit is even worse than the actual SSC comments. The "culture war roundup" stands out as particularly lovely.
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A vote for Bernie is a vote for the Khmer Rouge https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/709887721477677056
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People can bitch as much as they want about millennials who don't want to work, but it's a proven fact that people will work harder with a gun in their back for a bowl of rice a day.
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Fututor Magnus posted:A vote for Bernie is a vote for the Khmer Rouge It's interesting how much American right-wingers go on about the Khmer Rouge given that basically the first thing the Socialist Republic of Vietnam did once they won the Vietnam War (and therefore had the ability to launch a proper offensive) was invade Cambodia to depose the Khmer Rouge for being genocidal tyrants.
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Tesseraction posted:It's interesting how much American right-wingers go on about the Khmer Rouge given that basically the first thing the Socialist Republic of Vietnam did once they won the Vietnam War (and therefore had the ability to launch a proper offensive) was invade Cambodia to depose the Khmer Rouge for being genocidal tyrants.
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Tesseraction posted:It's interesting how much American right-wingers go on about the Khmer Rouge given that basically the first thing the Socialist Republic of Vietnam did once they won the Vietnam War (and therefore had the ability to launch a proper offensive) was invade Cambodia to depose the Khmer Rouge for being genocidal tyrants.
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