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DeusExMachinima posted:loving rekt
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Off-year elections are the dumbest loving things, but yes. One of the biggest problems is that districts are drawn by the states themselves (dumb) and we do not control the majority of state houses or governorships. I don't mind odd year elections, but I guess they work out in my favor as a NYC resident. I can't imagine a mayoral election going on at the same time as a presidential or gubernatorial race. Seems like too important a position so take a back seat to a race which doesn't directly affect me as much.
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Franco Potente posted:I don't think any of this is necessarily going to play out in the way described. Hillary has been running an almost Jeb-level campaign. She can't stop putting her foot in her mouth, and keeps taking the wrong message away from each defeat. If she comes away with only a small increase in her delegate lead today and looks vulnerable, I could see Bernie winning it (and I am not even a Bernie fan). Bernie is similar to Trump in that attack ads will make him more appealing to the Democrats in the remaining states. As for the donor class - I have to imagine some of them are going to be panicking at the prospect of a Trump vs. Sanders general election.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:08
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TyrantWD posted:Hillary has been running an almost Jeb-level campaign. She can't stop putting her foot in her mouth, and keeps taking the wrong message away from each defeat. Are you from some strange parallel universe?
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Mar 15, 2016 14:13
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TyrantWD posted:Hillary has been running an almost Jeb-level campaign. She can't stop putting her foot in her mouth, and keeps taking the wrong message away from each defeat. If she comes away with only a small increase in her delegate lead today and looks vulnerable, I could see Bernie winning it (and I am not even a Bernie fan). Bernie is similar to Trump in that attack ads will make him more appealing to the Democrats in the remaining states. Bernie isn't going to overcome a 300+ pledged delegate lead she's going to have at the end of today (she's going to add about ~100 today). Full stop. This is a larger lead than Obama, at any point, ever had on her in 2008 under virtually the same delegate rules. No one cares about this poo poo people on the internet are FLIPPING THEIR MIND ABOUT.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:15
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Bernie isn't going to overcome a 300+ pledged delegate lead she's going to have at the end of today (she's going to add about ~100 today). Full stop. This is a larger lead than Obama, at any point, ever had on her in 2008 under virtually the same delegate rules. She is only at +220 at the moment. If she ends the night on +240, I'd say she is in trouble. Outside of the mid-Atlantic states, she is facing very unfavorable states across the board. She probably won't get another big win after Florida until the end of April when we get to Maryland (or even stand a chance at a win outside NY). The narrative that builds from that is going to extremely problematic for the Clinton campaign.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:27
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TyrantWD posted:She is only at +220 at the moment. If she ends the night on +240, I'd say she is in trouble. Outside of the mid-Atlantic states, she is facing very unfavorable states across the board. She probably won't get another big win after Florida until the end of April when we get to Maryland (or even stand a chance at a win outside NY). The narrative that builds from that is going to extremely problematic for the Clinton campaign. She's going to end up a lot more than +240 (Bernie would have to do /exceptionally/ well, like loving FANTASTIC in Fla and NC for that to not happen.) Also 220 is more than Obama ever had on her, at any point, in 2008. So no.
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botany posted:Are you from some strange parallel universe? nah, probably just /r/sandersforpresident
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TyrantWD posted:She is only at +220 at the moment. If she ends the night on +240, I'd say she is in trouble. Outside of the mid-Atlantic states, she is facing very unfavorable states across the board. She probably won't get another big win after Florida until the end of April when we get to Maryland (or even stand a chance at a win outside NY). The narrative that builds from that is going to extremely problematic for the Clinton campaign. You're crazy. If today ends with Hillary only at +240 (which would be a miracle), Bernie would need to win 56% of the remaining delegates to even tie. That's a +7% improvement over his current numbers - a hell of a stretch this late in the campaign cycle. Most likely she's going to be closer to +300, which puts it to a basically impossible 58%. I'm not even going to touch the rest of your statements, since you're goddamn delusional.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:40
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Are Bernie supporters just now assuming because Michigan's polls were wrong, they're all wrong?
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Mar 15, 2016 14:43
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I have an insane theory about the drug war. That it's being used as a "convenient" way to keep unemployment at managable levels. That since we haven't had a major population culling of excess young males this generation, mass incarceration has been used to fill that lack. I don't forsee total decriminalization or legalization ever happening. Why? Because a sudden influx of a few million prisoners into the economy, with no job prospects and the added difficulty of getting one with a record, it would have severe effects on the economy and crime levels. I can't think of an elegant solution to that problem that we could actually implement. (I'd say mincome might do the trick, but that is a non-starter.)
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tyrantwd has been staunchly for hillary the entire time you goofballs
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WaPo article about politics junkies watching for a contested convention Sadly, no usernames.
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TheQat posted:tyrantwd has been staunchly for hillary the entire time you goofballs I don't keep tabs on people in YCS; so he's just Arzying? Got it.
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Talmonis posted:I have an insane theory that's insane
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Mar 15, 2016 14:46
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Talmonis posted:I have an insane theory about the drug war. That it's being used as a "convenient" way to keep unemployment at managable levels. That since we haven't had a major population culling of excess young males this generation, mass incarceration has been used to fill that lack. Massive country wide infrastructure improvement program to create jobs to put them into?
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TheQat posted:tyrantwd has been staunchly for hillary the entire time you goofballs Doesn't make his recent posts any less dumb.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:47
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Talmonis posted:I have an insane theory about the drug war. That it's being used as a "convenient" way to keep unemployment at managable levels. That since we haven't had a major population culling of excess young males this generation, mass incarceration has been used to fill that lack. I know it's totally politically unrealistic but use the money we throw into the prison industry and start employing these people on public works projects and repairing our infrastructure. The even more unrealistic idea is to just use what we are paying to incarcerate them to give everyone a living wage since we are effectively paying to have them do nothing as it is just in a place they aren't allowed to leave but LOL on that one.
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Taerkar posted:Doesn't make his recent posts any less dumb. did i say anything like that? two people on this page implied that he is a sanders supporter which is just categorically wrong
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Mar 15, 2016 14:49
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Bernie isn't going to overcome a 300+ pledged delegate lead she's going to have at the end of today (she's going to add about ~100 today). Full stop. This is a larger lead than Obama, at any point, ever had on her in 2008 under virtually the same delegate rules. D&D needs a sticky thread saying GE matchups don't matter until after the conventions, Hillary is gonna be the Dem nominee barring some crazy event like a health crisis or indictment and no one knows anything about the GOP race.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Are Bernie supporters just now assuming because Michigan's polls were wrong, they're all wrong? Rubio supporters too.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:53
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Are Bernie supporters just now assuming because Michigan's polls were wrong, they're all wrong? That and Bernie has consistently outperformed months old polls(who knew that campaigning would change that????) and they're in 2012 unskewing mode.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:55
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fknlo posted:That and Bernie has consistently outperformed months old polls(who knew that campaigning would change that????) and they're in 2012 unskewing mode. I hope someone posts r/sanders4president highlights again tonight in the thread. those are always great.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:56
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axeil posted:I hope someone posts r/sanders4president highlights again tonight in the thread. those are always great. I'd imagine they're gonna be super cocky tonight.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:57
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I have seen someone describe Trump's lips as a puckered anus of outrage, and I just wanted to share the gloriously gross yet accurate image with you all.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:58
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zoux posted:I'd imagine they're gonna be super cocky tonight. Not if Bernie loses a whole bunch of states. Nothing'll probably top that guy  ing about his gf leaving him for a Clinton supporter after NV though. Or the guy who donated his whole food budget to THE REVOLUTION
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Are Bernie supporters just now assuming because Michigan's polls were wrong, they're all wrong? Pretty much. Or at least hoping for a last minute shift. I suspect that what's going to happen is Bernie's going to lose, but Hillary is going to continue to underperformed, and by the time we hit the convention the Democratic party will have a massive case of buyers remorse.
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VanSandman posted:I have seen someone describe Trump's lips as a puckered anus of outrage, and I just wanted to share the gloriously gross yet accurate image with you all. except people bleach their anus not glaze it in pf changs sweet and sour
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axeil posted:Not if Bernie loses a whole bunch of states. I believe both of those were fakes
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axeil posted:Not if Bernie loses a whole bunch of states. You do realize those were fakeposts right
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axeil posted:Not if Bernie loses a whole bunch of states. Maybe it will be me in here after Hillary loses MO by one vote(mine), Bernie cruises to the nomination and then gets destroyed in the general when Trump whips out his 12 inch cock and slaps Bernie across the face with it during a debate and then proceeds to win every state in a landslide.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Bernie isn't going to overcome a 300+ pledged delegate lead she's going to have at the end of today (she's going to add about ~100 today). Full stop. This is a larger lead than Obama, at any point, ever had on her in 2008 under virtually the same delegate rules. are you telling me that some Bernie supporters are low-information voters?
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HorseRenoir posted:The last census coincided with the 2010 tea party wave. Democrats picked a really lovely year to not show up at the polls. Yes, yes they did. Possibly  , unless your job is alright with poop.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw41BDhI_K8
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Luminous Obscurity posted:except people bleach their anus not glaze it in pf changs sweet and sour Speak for yourself 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You do realize those were fakeposts right ...were they? I mean the first one probably was but the 2nd one I'm not sure of. Poe's Law is in full effect over there.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:and by the time we hit the convention the Democratic party will have a massive case of buyers remorse. I don't see this happening outside of the pending indictment that has been moments away for months now.
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The Republicans really have done a fantastic job of poisoning the populace against Clinton with their 20 year attack. Even my wife despises her, and can't articulate why. Just that she's "unlikable" and "untrustoworthy". She can't even give examples of the latter being the case, until the email thing, which she admits is stupid. I used to hold a lot of these same feelings about her (Clinton), until asking myself what it was exactly that did it. The answer "Nothing" was all I needed to know I was being had. Now to work on more loved ones.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You do realize those were fakeposts right Anything that solidifies my worldview should be given the utmost benefit of the doubt.
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fknlo posted:I don't see this happening outside of the pending indictment that has been moments away for months now. Hillary will be indicted the minute the Iranians get a working nuclear weapon.
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Really the whole focus on winning and losing states in the Democratic Primary is a huge disservice to the electorate. Every state is proportional so it's worthless to describe a contest like MI or MA in terms of who won. The margins are the most important thing, and people don't have an accurate view of the race due to tallying up meaningless wins and losses.
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