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spectralent posted:Do we have the bonus books somewhere? I couldn't see them in the last playbook update, so I assume they're in a seperate folder? The Giant can only be found in one of the old Kickstarter updates. Specifically, this one: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1552912590/fellowship-a-tabletop-adventure-game/posts/1360580 THE LESBIATHAN posted:Any idea when the Giant's playbook is getting its last move? I'm playing one and I'm saving an advance just in case its amazing. I am doing some finishing touches type stuff to the final draft right now but after I've got that out of the way, the Giant and the other backer playbooks (Remnant, Dragon, Constructed) will be the top of my priorities list. With the changes to the core rules between when I made the Giant draft and now, it's going to be getting a lot more changes than just adding an extra move to it. I'm looking over this old draft and seeing like a dozen little things that need changing. I'll try and get a new Giant draft out soon for ya. Probably within a week from now.
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Yo, this game owns and I'm probably gonna start some kinda roll20 game up for it soon.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:27
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@Everyone: go re-download the files from the Final Draft update, I updated them with bookmarked PDFs and some formatting fixes.
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I think the playbook PDF is screwed up, it has some customs listed at the bottom of the basic move third of the page.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:20
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A couple of them didn't fit properly in their column while also keeping the larger font size.
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It's pretty confusing, I had to double check to be sure they weren't core moves out of nowhere.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:56
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That's fair. I have updated the file in the link again, now with partitions for those moves on The Orc and The Heir.
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gnome7 posted:I am doing some finishing touches type stuff to the final draft right now but after I've got that out of the way, the Giant and the other backer playbooks (Remnant, Dragon, Constructed) will be the top of my priorities list. Awesome, as long as I can still do killer tag team wrestling moves with my beautiful elf buddy I will be super happy.
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Important Fellowship news: we have drafts of the last few art pieces for the main book, coming in hot. https://twitter.com/Veliministriari/status/709214997977636869 https://twitter.com/Veliministriari/status/709251416116879360 These paintings being finished are the last thing standing between PDF release, and then we begin the process of waiting on printing proofs of the book. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 06:50
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Hurray, and congratulations on another book done.
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I'll comment that the Overlord changes threw me for a loop since I'll have to refit my existing game but they're overall a real improvement. Also I had to improvise since I lost a couple of players and had another take a hiatus for college work which led to me recruiting two new players which I started at level one. As a result there's a quite uneven level range in my game but it works out okay I guess. Levels aren't as crucial as in D&D for example.
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When it says "direct action" against a threat to the world, what does that mean? I had assumed it meant "to attack, stall, persuade, etc face-to-face, or at least via direct means such as live over a communication system", but it mentions a "thinky - planny" general will force people to pay prices every time they act against their plans; does this mean, for example, if the overlord has set the army to attack a city, the PCs have to pay a price every time they try and stop the army, too? Or even just once to start the attempt? I'm not sure what the limits are on "direct actions" with the advice on p 189.
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spectralent posted:When it says "direct action" against a threat to the world, what does that mean? I had assumed it meant "to attack, stall, persuade, etc face-to-face, or at least via direct means such as live over a communication system", but it mentions a "thinky - planny" general will force people to pay prices every time they act against their plans; does this mean, for example, if the overlord has set the army to attack a city, the PCs have to pay a price every time they try and stop the army, too? Or even just once to start the attempt? I'm not sure what the limits are on "direct actions" with the advice on p 189. What that is is old advice that I think I need to rewrite. Your initial assumption is correct - it's when you act against the Threat to the World personally. EDIT: Yeah basically this entire page is redundant now that the Generals move better describes how to make one already. I'll keep this section in but it needs a hard re-write. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 15:18
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Is there a list of third-party playbooks quite yet? I'm not sure how many exist, but I've heard of the Mask, and wanted to see if there were any others going around quite yet.
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gnome7 posted:What that is is old advice that I think I need to rewrite. Your initial assumption is correct - it's when you act against the Threat to the World personally. Aah, right. Also, the general's minions are just permission to have whatever goons they need, right? Not an entire second army?
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spectralent posted:Aah, right. Yeah pretty much. They might be at the head of the army you already have, though! Which would make wherever that is going down a very bad place to be. Doc Aquatic posted:Is there a list of third-party playbooks quite yet? I'm not sure how many exist, but I've heard of the Mask, and wanted to see if there were any others going around quite yet. The Mask (for a rogue-type with no home and country) and The Yankee (someone from our world/another world who got sucked into the fantasy land) were posted about earlier in this thread, but I don't have any links to them and I don't know if either has been finished. I heartily endorse both concepts, though, and am just going to officially state that creating and publishing/selling such playbooks is alright with me. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Yeah, they're both good, but they're not Version 2.0 compliant by any means.  (I ran into this when making a skin for Masks.)
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Yeah, the Yankee (Possibly with a rename to "The Castaway") is not even half done. I should finish it now that we've got the last draft.
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I had another thought: If the general or overlord is present as a direct commander of forces, does it count as acting against them to interfere with their will? For example, a general saying "Guards, seize them!", when you don't want them to be seized?
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spectralent posted:I had another thought: If the general or overlord is present as a direct commander of forces, does it count as acting against them to interfere with their will? For example, a general saying "Guards, seize them!", when you don't want them to be seized? No. In the old version of the rules, the answer would've been yes, but with the new version of Threat to the World you only pay a price when actively dealing with the Threat to the World itself. In your example, the players are only dealing with minions, not the General themselves, even if they are acting on the General's orders. So even though they might be trying to Get Away from them, they're trying to escape the General's minions at that time, so they will not pay a price. If the General tries to go in an seize the players themselves, rather than rely on their incompetent guards, then the fellowship would need to pay a price to try to Get Away or any other move they make, because now they're opposing a Threat to the World. The TttW needs to be personally involved to trigger the payment.
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gnome7 posted:The Mask (for a rogue-type with no home and country) and The Yankee (someone from our world/another world who got sucked into the fantasy land) were posted about earlier in this thread, but I don't have any links to them and I don't know if either has been finished. I heartily endorse both concepts, though, and am just going to officially state that creating and publishing/selling such playbooks is alright with me. I kinda ditched the mask concept because I found out the core move was a poorly written version of the halfling's one on a different stat. I was poking around with reworking it into the Outsider, who's your kain/sasuke/han solo based around being willing to be antiheroic and a little bit darker, but I need to sort out the core move's consequences and the gear,and figured I'd wait for the final version. The idea right now is to give them a special stat based on being Dark, what is basically Go Aggro from apocalypse world and some sort of buff when having the stat damaged, to represent being nice for once. Unfortunately this is hard and I have videogames. I don't know if it'll ever end up as good as I want it to be, but I'm really happy with the bonds move replacing the Mask itself. Tsundere: For whatever reason, you don't like people to get close to you, and try to keep your distance from them. Other characters, excluding the Overlord, can only have a maximum of one bond with you. However, you have no such restriction towards them. Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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gnome7 posted:No. In the old version of the rules, the answer would've been yes, but with the new version of Threat to the World you only pay a price when actively dealing with the Threat to the World itself. In your example, the players are only dealing with minions, not the General themselves, even if they are acting on the General's orders. So even though they might be trying to Get Away from them, they're trying to escape the General's minions at that time, so they will not pay a price. So "help me get them" would work (I'm picturing the guards moving to cut off the exits while the general goes to grab them)? EDIT: Tsundere should be a bonus to helping people in a scene where you break a bond with them and a penalty in a scene where you've made a bond with them. Or make the move "Just passing through", perhaps. spectralent fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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spectralent posted:So "help me get them" would work (I'm picturing the guards moving to cut off the exits while the general goes to grab them)? Yeah. Whenever the General is the one they are acting directly against, they must pay a price first. That said, they wouldn't pay a price for everything they do in that scenario - if a player or two went to clear out the guards and make a path out while the rest held off the General, the ones dealing with the minions are not dealing with a Threat to the World and will not have to pay a price. Basically, when a player is making a move, ask yourself if the one they're making it against is the General/Overlord or if it is something else. If the move is not actually against the General or the Overlord, then they do not have to pay the price to make that move.
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Alright, cheers. I'm just getting the image of the new version in my head.
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Things my group did in the game I just ran 1. Fired the halfling out of a cannon so he could fistfight a renegade space angel 2. Said halfling tore around on a bear yelling about how great he was until villagers asked the party meekly to stop him 3. Threw a flashbang in the Overlord's face immediately after his "I'm doing this for the greater good" monologue and made off with his sword in the confusion 4. Arranged for the Overlord to sit in mashed potatoes immediately after his "I'll get you next time" monologue 5. Other things This is a Good Game. 
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Not gonna lie, I totally forgot I was pledged for a hardcopy.
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Kai Tave posted:Not gonna lie, I totally forgot I was pledged for a hardcopy. This was my reaction today when I realized I had pledged $70. That seems pretty fiscally irresponsible, past me, but thanks for the signed book!
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Has anyone made fillable pdf versions of the playbook yet? If not, is there any objection to my doing so? Is the version in the last update final or should I wait a bit before starting this?
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CaptCommy posted:Has anyone made fillable pdf versions of the playbook yet? If not, is there any objection to my doing so? Is the version in the last update final or should I wait a bit before starting this? The last update is near-final. I am still missing some artwork, so the dwarf, heir, and squire playbooks have filler art pieces, as does one of the Overlord pages. The rules-text is basically complete, though, and at most will have minor wording changes if I catch something weird. I have no objection with someone making them form-fillable, but I'd give it a week or so. Maddi is finishing the last few paintings this week.
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Hey, everyone, thought I'd come on in and plug the recruitment for my game. We're going to be playing using Roll20 and Discord at 7 pm central. I'm aiming for a full Fellowship, so there's still plenty of room. Apply here, if you're interested.
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How's Giant coming, gnome?
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Loki_XLII posted:Hey, everyone, thought I'd come on in and plug the recruitment for my game. We're going to be playing using Roll20 and Discord at 7 pm central. I'm aiming for a full Fellowship, so there's still plenty of room. Apply here, if you're interested. Are you starting this week? I really want to play fellowship but am booked for the next 3 Thursdays.
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Neopie posted:How's Giant coming, gnome? I wanted to finish up a little bit more on it but honestly 90% of it is ready to go, I'll post an update on it tonight.
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Golden Bee posted:Are you starting this week? I really want to play fellowship but am booked for the next 3 Thursdays. Probably not this week, that's just there so roll20 would let me list it. 3 weeks is later than I was planning. Feel free to apply, though, we could probably work around a later start just fine.
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gnome7 posted:I wanted to finish up a little bit more on it but honestly 90% of it is ready to go, I'll post an update on it tonight. Considering that I'm making one now - good timing, and thanks!
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Okay, the expansion pack approach thing just made the Castaway/Yankee start to gel a bit, I think, so that's helpful.
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How're the voted-on playbooks progressing? Not to rush or anything, just out of curiosity.
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I haven't done much of anything with them, as I was working pretty heavily on just getting the main book done, but now that all that's left is waiting on art I've started to pick up working on those. I don't have any ETA on any of them yet, but previews will start coming as I make solid drafts of them happen. EDIT: https://twitter.com/Veliministriari/status/712147568705277952 gnome7 fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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gnome7 posted:I haven't done much of anything with them, as I was working pretty heavily on just getting the main book done, but now that all that's left is waiting on art I've started to pick up working on those. I don't have any ETA on any of them yet, but previews will start coming as I make solid drafts of them happen. 
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gnome7 posted:I haven't done much of anything with them, as I was working pretty heavily on just getting the main book done, but now that all that's left is waiting on art I've started to pick up working on those. I don't have any ETA on any of them yet, but previews will start coming as I make solid drafts of them happen. I have to admit, dragons having stands makes me about a hundred times more interested in them.
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