OwlFancier posted:

Yes, individually, each trusting a tenuous link to the non-existent consensus idea that will last as long as it isn't examined too closely.

To compare, see political movements comprised of rather loose groups of people, the moment they lose whatever Other existed to define them they immediately dissolve into people arguing with each other because none of them actually agreed to begin with, they just definitely disagreed with the other.

Masculinity is defined entirely by its opposition to some nebulous idea of femininity, the emphasis is not on being a man, rather instead it's not being effeminate. Femininity provides the thing to be afraid of in people who derive their identity and sense of social unity from masculinity and it's what creates any semblance of group cohesion among said people. Very visible among people like the dark enlightenment idiots who are super quick to argue with each other but so long as they have feminism to argue about they will keep more coherent.

Fox Ironic posted:

This is basically Simone De Beauvoir's hypothesis in "The Second Sex." Masculinity and Femininity are defined as the absence of the opposite. However, since different cultures value different things as being "Male" or "Female," this creates ambiguity (ironically, ambiguity is most often associated with Femininity). In order to authentically determine (i.e. define outside of societal terms) one's own Identity, a person must reclaim their identity from the other rather than base their identity in it. Under this model, Gender becomes entirely self-determined and thus, meaningless unless the individual chooses to value it, in which case the definition rests on them to provide.

Furthermore, any attempt to impose these values on others is by it's nature inauthentic since you are clearly basing your own identity on forcing others to conform, which shows that you are dependent on other people's gender identities to have one yourself.

"Being a Man" (or a woman) is not something you DO, it's something you FEEL.

Xand_Man posted:

Does that mean no free blowjob robots?

nigga crab pollock posted:

nigga crab pollock posted:

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the dumb #thetriggering hashtag shitstorm was truly an insight into how these people's minds work. they complain about women not being their ideal of femininity, yet they themselves do not fall into their own ideal of masculinity that becomes more unattainable as time goes on

Buried alive posted:

I'm not up on the twitters, can someone clue me in on what happened?

Buried alive posted:

a bunch of DE/etc. types posted a bunch of naked statements on twitter (e.g. "women need to get back to the kitchen" or whatever) then got crushed for it.

Woolie Wool posted:

Hope you're not interested in conversation because the setting doesn't have strong AI so the robot whores wouldn't be up for pillow talk.

Cingulate posted:

I don't understand how Hashtag TheTriggering differs from every other day on Twitterthe Internet.

I mean, imagine the inverse: the writers of Jezebel promise to each other they'll spend a whole day without saying "friend of the family" even once. A bit of a non-event, right?

Pussy Cartel posted:

No, but you see, NRx types tweeted blandly offensive poo poo...and people were somewhat annoyed!

Cingulate posted:

The last time this was not a true statement was on the day before Twitter entered open beta.

Pththya-lyi posted:

See, this fact just doesn't fit in with the "virtually everyone has succumbed to politically-correct censorship and just speaking the truth is a major act of bravery" narrative that these DE people buy into, so it's ignored.

FilthyImp posted:

Can't remember where I heard it, but someone said anti-PC outrage stems from the realization that Power Elites have lost control of certain parts of language, and all the bellyaches come from Poors/Minorities being able to realign words and terms to better reflect some things.

Which I dig.

Cingulate posted:

Yeah it's I think pretty clear that progressives currently dominate the language of public discourse. I don't even know if that's a recent thing - there's still "Death Tax" I guess.

Maoist Pussy posted:

As a Marxist, I would argue that human nature is the result of the material conditions of their existence and, why no I don't think a person's literal body counts as material conditions why do you ask

-Troika- posted:

This is the funniest post I have read in D&D in months, and doubly so because it is a good one.

Cingulate posted:

I'd kind of agree, although "bravery" isn't the word I'd choose. The fact that they tweet "Beauty ideals weren't much different 2000 years ago #TheTriggering" and not "i despise fat women because women have no worth beyond their bodies as sex objects" shows that even NRx people still tacitly accept that it's not correct to say the latter.

Put lead in Kyankas head posted:

Alright I think this thread is fun: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3728924]

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: The Problem Attic > Understanding the psychology of HBD/Racial Realism/Dark Enlightenment. The OP's name? "Race Realists"

Anyway, it's a thread for goons to QQ at old white people for being racist and write huge paragraphs about how people took up "race realism" to make up for their shortcomings at life, or something like that. Also goonrage at Reddit and Gamergate because this is D&D after all.

nigga crab pollock posted:

i don't really see them being tactful, they think that "the man" will censor them if they tell the REAL truth so they have to water it down to be palatable. plus you have to warm people up with an easier to agree with idea (beauty ideals were the same 2k years ago) before they jump to the more nasty ideas (fat women are disgusting)

my #triggering adventure on twitter was mostly hilariously clumsy racist vitriol but there were people willing to engage in discussion. yeah they talked down to everyone and deflected everything as propaganda or had inane counterpoints but compare that to just calling you a feminiazi pussy-lover (?). they come off as schmucks who consider themselves to be enlightened to the greater truth, and willing to give a little leeway to spread it. they see themselves above all of those other idiots who just spray nasty rhetoric, because THEY are going to change peoples opinions

the tactfulness is a purposeful deceit in an attempt to get people to agree with them

Race Realists posted:

WELP GUYS I'VE FINALLY GOT FAMOUS

http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=2101.msg237752#msg237752


I'm telling everyone! :-)

Tesseraction posted:

We're not meant to link to that site, funny though it is to see an echo chamber about an echo chamber.

Jack Gladney posted:

One, I guess. One big, mod-shaped one who they went after only because they didn't like his spoiler policy in the tv forum. Not the best do-gooders really, but I'm glad he got busted.

Troy Queef posted:

They also nailed Fire and Zeitgeist.

e: oh, and the creepy Old-GBS mod who wrote really bad fanfic

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Zeitgeist not being Zack Parsons, right?

Cingulate posted:

The last time this was not a true statement was on the day before Twitter entered open beta.

Bushiz posted:

I mean, it's bad that the edgelords are being deliberately lovely for no reason, but they're not any good at it.

Bushiz posted:

I think there's an interesting culture that's emerged in the Edgelord-Skeleton wars that are taking place on twitter. Like, prominent social justice twitter personalities received serious threats via more private channels, but talk about them via public channels. This becomes a story and, toiling in the content mines, various writers drum up some mean tweets to go along with the stories. These tweets are bad, the worst offenders are banned, and things proceed. The cycle repeats, but the tweets become less openly violent at specific individuals, because that gets you thrown off twitter, and, because we're dealing with /pol/ rejects who think having LOIC and a wget ddos makes them Anonymous, the new hostile tweets are just very, very low quality. So now you have this hoard of idiots tweeting shittily at people, and a hoard of victims that are, by and large, fairly new to and inexperienced with mass communication platforms on the web, people for whom facebook or myspace was their first foray into an online identity, and it just amazes me. You've got this group of /pol/ rejects who think they're some kind of elite internet harassment squad, and then these other people, the victims, who seem to also believe the hype about their harassers, but it just doesn't pierce the noise floor of general shittiness on the internet. I earned the ire of internet edgelords a while back, and cleaning them out from my mentions took maybe ten minutes, and was considerably harder than the five or six times I've had dozens to hundreds of porn bots spontaneously follow me on twitter.

I mean, it's bad that the edgelords are being deliberately lovely for no reason, but they're not any good at it.

Jack Gladney posted:

It's all just maladjusted nerds who can't adapt to a changing world because the internet is the clubhouse they run to in escape from the world. It's been going on since the beginning of the internet. Look up "eternal fall registration."

Race Realists posted:

check this edgelord right here

https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/708755396354244609