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jivjov posted:I'm still a bit baffled that they cranked out Daredevil Season 2 before finishing up the initial run of series' that were announced from Day 1...but what do I know? I guess DD did SO well that they had to follow it up. Yeah you can't have your whole cast sitting idle for 2-3 years especially if it's a smash hit. I read on twitter that Luke Cage had its wrap party today.
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Was DD a smash hit? How do you tell? I loved it and everyone I recommended it to did also but I have no way of gauging its popularity outside of anecdotal stuff like talking to my comic book nerd friends. Did it really kick a lot of rear end ratings wise?
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 00:36 |
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You can bet Netflix knows exactly how successful Daredevil was, so the proof is in the renewal.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 00:44 |
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Netflix thought it deserved a second season, that's all the ratings information you're going to get.
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BiggerBoat posted:Was DD a smash hit? How do you tell? I loved it and everyone I recommended it to did also but I have no way of gauging its popularity outside of anecdotal stuff like talking to my comic book nerd friends. Did it really kick a lot of rear end ratings wise? My uncle works at Netflix.
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jivjov posted:I'm still a bit baffled that they cranked out Daredevil Season 2 before finishing up the initial run of series' that were announced from Day 1...but what do I know? I guess DD did SO well that they had to follow it up. Same tbh. I watched some of the NYCC interviews with the writers room and they mentioned they were pumping out the scripts during production which seems to run against what they did in season 1. Season 2 won't be dire but at this point it doesn't look like it'll be quite as good as season 1 because of the limited time frame they had.
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howe_sam posted:Netflix thought it deserved a second season, that's all the ratings information you're going to get. Didn't Netflix release the ratings for Daredevil unlike every other show? Yeah: https://variety.com/2015/digital/news/netflix-originals-viewer-data-1201480234/ Basically Daredevil was ridiculously popular.
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HIJK posted:Didn't Netflix release the ratings for Daredevil unlike every other show? I don't disagree that Daredevil was popular, but those numbers aren't from Netflix, it's a third party company polling select Netflix subscribers, unless I misread something.
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They wouldn't have renewed it for a second season if it wasn't extremely popular.
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enraged_camel posted:They wouldn't have renewed it for a second season if it wasn't extremely popular. they gave that show with the magic gypsy thieves and weird vampires three seasons
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 02:09 |
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Because it was popular.
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Also I think they announced the renewal right after it premiered. Also adding: comixology has a decent sale on a bunch of different DD comics. Some frank Miller books, and a bunch of more recent ones too.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 03:15 |
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Weren't there stories about how many people were streaming Daredevil and it was setting records at Netflix or something? I seem to remember that there were more hints that it was massively popular than Netflix just renewing it. Though if I remember correctly the renewal announcement for both Daredevil and Jessica Jones came pretty quick.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 03:59 |
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Streaming services have killer analytics. They literally know exactly how many users watched their shows. And how many times, at what rate...they can generate heatmaps for the most watched timecode of a given episode if they wanted. I can only tell myself that to justify in my own mind why Marco Polo got renewed. How the gently caress did *that* happen? I guess it did great somewhere, because literally nobody I know has seen a minute of it.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 04:38 |
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I'd be more curious to see how Jessica Jones did in the ratings. Also the Daredevil show has had a much more flexible "No Killing" rule, with Murdock unflinchingly putting guys in comas and setting a dude on fire.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Also the Daredevil show has had a much more flexible "No Killing" rule, with Murdock unflinchingly putting guys in comas and setting a dude on fire. No Olly, you're not the hero.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 04:50 |
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He never killed any of those people according to Detective Lance, leading expert on bodies dropped.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 04:51 |
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jivjov posted:I'm still a bit baffled that they cranked out Daredevil Season 2 before finishing up the initial run of series' that were announced from Day 1...but what do I know? I guess DD did SO well that they had to follow it up. Kind of makes sense since none of the creative teams seem to overlap.
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tooterfish posted:Not half as flexible as the one in Arrow. Oliver would break into a building and murder half a dozen low level mooks, the janitor, and some guy who just wandered in to ask directions at the front desk... then he'd knock out the big boss and say "I'M THE HERO, SEE YOU IN COURT MOTHERFUCKER!". Don't be ridiculous, those were nonlethal arrow wounds
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 12:05 |
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Season 2 gets a B+ from the AV Club, they said that Punisher and Elektra were particularly strong.
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Maluco Marinero posted:You can bet Netflix knows exactly how successful Daredevil was, so the proof is in the renewal. Yeah they probably have some really intense analytics that measure complex stuff we haven't even thought to measure. I'm sure Netflix gets more accurate data on viewership than any of the cable or network companies ever did. My guess is Netflix can also measure which of their shows are subscription sellers by looking at what people are watching immediately after starting their subscription. If they see spikes in subscriptions and free trials, and see that those people are all watching Daredevil, they know it is popular. If a high enough percentage of those people watch all 13 episodes, they know it is good too. My guess is it was very popular.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 20:50 |
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Netflix is stacking paper to the ceiling so whatever metrics they are using are pretty good.
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zoux posted:Netflix is stacking paper to the ceiling so whatever metrics they are using are pretty good. It's all the metrics.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 20:52 |
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The analytics are actually heartening. I got showtime just to watch The Circus, and that's basically all I watch on their online service.
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zoux posted:Season 2 gets a B+ from the AV Club, they said that Punisher and Elektra were particularly strong. That's surprising coming from that cess pool of a website.
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Deakul posted:That's surprising coming from that cess pool of a website. Sava will probably be doing weekly reviews though, so don't count your chickens.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Sava will probably be doing weekly reviews though, so don't count your chickens. They kicked him off SHIELD lol.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 00:48 |
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I generally like tv articles that delve into larger cultural contexts (Sonia Saraiya is regularly fantastic), but Sava really went off the deep end this past year. He was particularly harsh on Agent Carter for no descernible reason.
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zoux posted:They kicked him off SHIELD lol. I don't know anything about AV Club but I sense drama, give me deets.
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HIJK posted:I don't know anything about AV Club but I sense drama, give me deets. Oh he just slammed everything and bitched about the show and gave it lower grades than the comments thought it should get. Comment sections for shows over there develop little subcultures and memes just like threads do here, and gently caress Oliver Sava was a big one. I mean I have no idea why he stopped covering the show, I just noticed he was gone when I read last week's review.
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Deakul posted:That's surprising coming from that cess pool of a website. Oh, please. Some of their critics are better than others, but they're great overall.
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zoux posted:Oh he just slammed everything and bitched about the show and gave it lower grades than the comments thought it should get. Comment sections for shows over there develop little subcultures and memes just like threads do here, and gently caress Oliver Sava was a big one. Hahaha oh man. Maybe now he has a chance to move on to something he likes better.
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Barry Convex posted:Oh, please. Some of their critics are better than others, but they're great overall. Sure some critics are better than others, but overall AV Club has it's head so far up it's own rear end it's ridiculous. They really are the Rock Paper Shotgun of television, pretentious and preachy as poo poo, but sometimes you read them because they're slightly less garbage than the alternatives.
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Barry Convex posted:Oh, please. Some of their critics are better than others, but they're great overall. No, they aren't. They're a bunch of pretentious knobs that get hung up on minute details and let that determine the overall grade of an episode or series. And then they also cater to their own stupid community by constantly bringing up shipping and general tumblr crap. Deakul fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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counterfeitsaint posted:Sure some critics are better than others, but overall AV Club has it's head so far up it's own rear end it's ridiculous. They really are the Rock Paper Shotgun of television, pretentious and preachy as poo poo, but sometimes you read them because they're slightly less garbage than the alternatives. What critics do you like? I always enjoyed the AV Club but a bunch of their talented writers left in a big exodus. Their writing hasn't quite been the same since.
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Barry Convex posted:Oh, please. Some of their critics are better than others, but they're great overall. Everything being relative they're still trash. I'd read the SA movie reviews again before engaging anything written on AV Club, and I was not a fan of them either
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Narcissus1916 posted:What critics do you like? To where did they go?
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 16:38 |
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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/16/marvels-daredevil-season-2-ew-review Ew didn't like it either, lot of it seems like this critic takes out a thesaurus to find words to sound smarter and more profound.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 17:38 |
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A lot of these negative reviews are stuff that was there in season 1 but they overlooked because ooh, one shot hallway fight.
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achillesforever6 posted:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/16/marvels-daredevil-season-2-ew-review quote:The initial, haphazardly plotted Daredevil/Punisher “arc” is a flatline of inert drama, with long scenes of windy exposition or dull skulking interrupted by the occasional well-staged if ridiculously gory fight sequence. Mmm that passive voice in the second sentence, this guys knows his poo poo.
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