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quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Confederate flags on trucks are popular in Maple Ridge and Mission.

I remember talking to one of my sister's ex boyfriend about his stupid flag on the truck and the confederate flag tattoo on his arm. His reason was "it's pretty cool like duke of hazzard."

Also, mayor of Vancouver is going to save everyone with affordable housing for people making less than $56000 household income.

http://www.mayorofvancouver.ca/SoutheastFalseCreek

I don't understand quite how it's going to work or what the rental cost is going to look like. It would mean a maximum of $2700-3200 take home pay...? A rental of $2000/max would mean a shoestring budget for a family of 3 leaving only $700-1200 a month for variable expenses without any retirement funds?

Does anyone else know more because I am genuinely interested but I am also dumb.

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Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Kafka Esq. posted:

Oh my God, my friend is trying to buy the condo his landlord was just kicking him out of to try and sell. It's 450K and the fees, taxes and mortgage are $700 higher than his rent.

hel;p

Your friend is a goddamn idiot.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
The white background of the confederate flag literally represents "the heaven-ordained supremacy of the white race" as quoth its designer.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Baronjutter posted:

http://victoria.citified.ca/news/victoria-condo-fetches-astonishing-resale-premium-thanks-to-airbnb/
Victoria condo re-sells at insane profit due to potential airbnb rents. I hope the strata shuts it down and the next article is about the "investors" trying to sue the strata or city or human rights tribunal for restricting their freedom to profit off the *SHARING ECONOMY*

Amazing. In what loving world is a rental condo a "turnkey business"? Do they even know what that means?

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/house-prices-february-1.3491831

CBC reports average house price breaks $500k, notes that certain areas are distorting the market, provides no summary statistics that would be appropriate for such a non-normally distributed sample.

Does the CBC never give a number beside average because they have no one with a STEM degree employed or because they know no Canadian would understand if such was provided?

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

leftist heap posted:

Amazing. In what loving world is a rental condo a "turnkey business"? Do they even know what that means?

Well obviously hotels WAIT I MEAN SHARING ECONOMY SHORT TERM RENTALS have doors with locks and you need to turn a key in it.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

They just run whatever copy they're handed by the CP with minimal, if any edits.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

cowofwar posted:

The white background of the confederate flag literally represents "the heaven-ordained supremacy of the white race" as quoth its designer.

Ah, makes sense why they're so popular with a certain swath of Canadians now; at least that's something they can agree with.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

quaint bucket posted:


Also, mayor of Vancouver is going to save everyone with affordable housing for people making less than $56000 household income.

http://www.mayorofvancouver.ca/SoutheastFalseCreek

I don't understand quite how it's going to work or what the rental cost is going to look like. It would mean a maximum of $2700-3200 take home pay...? A rental of $2000/max would mean a shoestring budget for a family of 3 leaving only $700-1200 a month for variable expenses without any retirement funds?

Does anyone else know more because I am genuinely interested but I am also dumb.



It isn't adding up because it doesn't add up because like pretty much everything meant to help the lower classes it's a bullshit effort so they can day that our society isn't just a FYGM circle jerk that's a generation away from completely imploding.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Mar 15, 2016

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

cowofwar posted:

Well obviously hotels WAIT I MEAN SHARING ECONOMY SHORT TERM RENTALS have doors with locks and you need to turn a key in it.

I know when I think turn-key rental property I think one that has no current tenant, no property management in place, needs to be listed in perpetuity, and will probably be used to shoot porn or host an orgy. A can't-miss investment opportunity.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

cowofwar posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/house-prices-february-1.3491831

CBC reports average house price breaks $500k, notes that certain areas are distorting the market, provides no summary statistics that would be appropriate for such a non-normally distributed sample.

Does the CBC never give a number beside average because they have no one with a STEM degree employed or because they know no Canadian would understand if such was provided?

Considering the CBC spends a plurality of its journalistic time covering Bieber, cute animal puff pieces, or that time Obama mispronounced Mississauga, we're lucky to get any numerical content in their stories at all. Be thankful for that average, I say.

T.C.
Feb 10, 2004

Believe.

quaint bucket posted:

.

http://www.mayorofvancouver.ca/SoutheastFalseCreek

I don't understand quite how it's going to work or what the rental cost is going to look like. It would mean a maximum of $2700-3200 take home pay...? A rental of $2000/max would mean a shoestring budget for a family of 3 leaving only $700-1200 a month for variable expenses without any retirement funds?

Does anyone else know more because I am genuinely interested but I am also dumb.

The Georgia Straight has more numbers

http://www.straight.com/news/658116/city-vancouver-rent-out-future-southeast-false-creek-public-housing-900-studio-1500

quote:

According to the city, 40 percent of the units in the building will rent below what is called the ‘housing income limits’ that are set by the province.

The city’s chief housing officer Mukhtar Latif explained that these are meant for people who have incomes ranging from $36,500 to $56,000.

When asked about starting monthly rents for these 54 units, Latif said that this means $900 for a studio unit and up to $1,500 for a three-bedroom unit.

Sixty percent of the units or the equivalent of 81 units will rent at “modest market rents”, according to the city’s media release.

Latif explained that this represents something around the neighbourhood of $2,000 for a three-bedroom unit.


There are parts of this I would do differently, we need significantly more city owned affordable housing, and there are other parts of the market that need to be addressed, but this is something that could legitimately form part of a housing strategy. I would say that this is a small but generally positive thing. City owned, price controlled with a mixed income.

I'm curious how they worked their numbers for the low end, though. After tax it doesn't seem to make full sense. $900 for a bachelor is low now, but even a few years ago was reasonable market in the area. It feels like it should be lower if we're aiming at that sort of income range. I can deal with baby steps at the moment, though, since it's loving amazing compared to no steps.

T.C. fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Mar 16, 2016

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
$900 for a studio oh man lol.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009

Brannock posted:

$900 for a studio oh man lol.

That's nothing. I was looking at a place in Gastown the size of a budget hotel room with no extra storage or parking for $1200 unfurnished.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Brannock posted:

$900 for a studio oh man lol.

I pay the equivalent of around $4300 CAD/mo for my studio in SF (where the prices of detached housing aren't even that different from Vancouver).

Majuju
Dec 30, 2006

I had a beer with Stephen Miller once and now I like him.

blah_blah posted:

I pay the equivalent of around $4300 CAD/mo for my studio in SF (where the prices of detached housing aren't even that different from Vancouver).

And what do you make a month in salary

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

blah_blah posted:

I pay the equivalent of around $4300 CAD/mo for my studio in SF (where the prices of detached housing aren't even that different from Vancouver).

You should move to Menlo Park!

(Don't move to Menlo Park.)

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

blah_blah posted:

I pay the equivalent of around $4300 CAD/mo for my studio in SF (where the prices of detached housing aren't even that different from Vancouver).

lol

gently caress the bay area

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://twitter.com/Liberty8988/status/709809327620534272

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

blah_blah posted:

I pay the equivalent of around $4300 CAD/mo for my studio in SF (where the prices of detached housing aren't even that different from Vancouver).

3200 USD a month for, I'm hoping that place is a "large" studio with like 600 sqft or something. Jesus Christ.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

This isn't new, CIBC had an up to 15k I think cashback thing going on literally all of last summer with exactly the same "spend it on anything!!" poo poo.

Aagar
Mar 30, 2006

E/N Gestapo
I am talking to a mod right now about getting you probated/banned/gassed

HookShot posted:

This isn't new, CIBC had an up to 15k I think cashback thing going on literally all of last summer with exactly the same "spend it on anything!!" poo poo.

CIBC is also offering a teaser rate: 1.99% for the first nine months, with 2.77% for the remainder of a 4 year fixed. Because we all know how well teaser rates worked out for the US.

Also if I read the bottom of the ad correctly it comes out to 2.64% APR, so I'm not really sure what the point is (other than 'Oh hey what a great deal!').

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Majuju posted:

And what do you make a month in salary

Annual comp is in the 250-300k USD range depending on bonus/stock performance.

Subjunctive posted:

You should move to Menlo Park!

Menlo Park isn't cheaper by much, and there are basically no developments like mine (new, full service buildings) in the South Bay in general. I don't think there are really any bargains to be found these days, especially if you're unwilling to have roommates.

Cultural Imperial posted:

lol

gently caress the bay area

Brannock posted:

3200 USD a month for, I'm hoping that place is a "large" studio with like 600 sqft or something. Jesus Christ.

It is 600 sq ft, but it definitely chokes me up a little bit. Believe it or not, my rent is probably a little below market given how nice my building is and its location (I've also lived here for almost 3 years now). People who are just moving to the Bay Area now are definitely getting hit even worse. I've also heard a decent number of stories of yearly rent increases of $800-1000/mo near where I live (there is no rent control for buildings built after 1979, and I've been 'lucky' to only have my rent go up by about $300 a year).

On the other hand, you can at least view the rental insanity in SF and the Bay Area as the product of a reasonably efficient market. Even though rents in Vancouver have gone up in the last couple of years they are still often well below what the mortgage + strata fees + property taxes would be on that unit.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
It's gonna be great when all of this comes home to roost and instead of giving CMHC a mandate to investigate how many of these mortgages are lovely they just ask the public to accept the fact that we're all getting the shlongs of the big 5 crammed down our throats.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

So I signed the papers finalizing the sale of the condo yesterday and met with our financial adviser today.

One thing he commented was how fortunate we were to be in our late 20s/early 30s as a family of four to be in our financial situation (debt free).

And the only thing i got was "what does that say about the rest of Canada?"

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

blah_blah posted:

Annual comp is in the 250-300k USD range depending on bonus/stock performance.


Menlo Park isn't cheaper by much, and there are basically no developments like mine (new, full service buildings) in the South Bay in general. I don't think there are really any bargains to be found these days, especially if you're unwilling to have roommates.



It is 600 sq ft, but it definitely chokes me up a little bit. Believe it or not, my rent is probably a little below market given how nice my building is and its location (I've also lived here for almost 3 years now). People who are just moving to the Bay Area now are definitely getting hit even worse. I've also heard a decent number of stories of yearly rent increases of $800-1000/mo near where I live (there is no rent control for buildings built after 1979, and I've been 'lucky' to only have my rent go up by about $300 a year).

On the other hand, you can at least view the rental insanity in SF and the Bay Area as the product of a reasonably efficient market. Even though rents in Vancouver have gone up in the last couple of years they are still often well below what the mortgage + strata fees + property taxes would be on that unit.

Yeah the amount depends on the area but due to the Tech boom it's been literally double digit rent increases each year for each county.

So glad I can escape the bay area in April, it's getting hilariously unlivable due to ever increasing traffic, lack of mass transit improvements and also big cost of living increases.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!

Get part of your mortgage as cash and use it to pay down your mortgage? Am I missing something or is that completely retarded?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
It's completely retarded but how else are you going to make housing affordable to first time buyers???????

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

cowofwar posted:

The white background of the confederate flag literally represents "the heaven-ordained supremacy of the white race" as quoth its designer.

The author is dead.

Tochiazuma
Feb 16, 2007

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Get part of your mortgage as cash and use it to pay down your mortgage? Am I missing something or is that completely retarded?

Don't forget you're paying 2 points more in interest on the mortgage for the pleasure!

Beyond retarded.

Freezer
Apr 20, 2001

The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but one cannot stay in the cradle forever.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Get part of your mortgage as cash and use it to pay down your mortgage? Am I missing something or is that completely retarded?

You get a sweet wad of cash thrown in your face today , and it becomes future-you's problem. Given society's adamant refusal to think long term on anything, it's a decent hook to get more sales for bankers. Bribe people into taking mortgages today, and hope you're far away from the poo poo when these people inevitably become delinquent and banks start asking for bailouts.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://business.financialpost.com/p...ams-and-reality

quote:

How first-time home-buyers are bridging the gulf between their dreams and reality

Anyone wanting to buy her first home, especially in a big city, sees the gulf between her dreams and reality.

A so-called starter house in Toronto and Vancouver may cost more than $1 million. In January, the average price of detached homes hit a record high of $1.83 million in the Vancouver region; meanwhile, a tiny fixer-upper in Vancouver’s posh Point Grey neighbourhood sold last month for $2.48 million.

“It’s that white picket fence dream; the dream of owning a home still exists but it needs to be augmented for today’s reality,” says Ryan McKinley, a senior mortgage development manager at Vancity, a Vancouver-based credit union.

“It used to be that you get out of school, get your first job and there you are with your single (detached) home. There seem to be more steps in between now.”

Today, first-time homebuyers will buy a condo or a townhouse. They’ll co-buy with friends or family. They’ll buy a home with a rental unit. They’ll spend more time saving up for a down payment.

We spoke to some first-time home buyers about how they achieved their home-ownership dreams:

FP0312_Mortgage_portraits_ADAM_ROBIN_C_MFWho Robin, 25, recently-graduated nurse, and Adam, 25, diagnostic technician

Where Oshawa, Ont.

What The couple spent $230,000 on a 1,000-square foot bungalow that sits on a double lot in December 2014.

How they did it Robin was reluctant to buy a home. She was studying to become a nurse and tutoring and teaching first aid courses to cover her education. Meanwhile, her husband was supporting them on an income of $31,000. Adam’s parents were renting them a basement apartment for $400 while encouraging them to get into the housing market.

“They said, ‘You’re wasting money with us,’ ” she says. “Adam and his dad came up with the idea to look for a place where we would be able to rent out some part of it in order to make our (monthly) payments cheaper.”

The couple found a bungalow with a basement tenant who had been there for more than 15 years and who wanted to stay.

To avoid paying mortgage insurance, the couple put down 20 per cent as a downpayment, including $10,000 from Adam’s parents who had saved the couple’s rent payments over the years.

Their mortgage payments are $787 a month and their tenant pays $685 per month. They’ve also rented out their garage to someone looking to store a car for the winter and their driveway to another individual who parks an RV there.

Their best advice If you’re a couple, group your finances together and work as a team towards a common goal.



FP0312_Mortgage_portraits_DAVE_C_MFWho Dave, 35, digital marketing consultant

Where Toronto

What Dave and his wife, who is a high school teacher, purchased a $550,000 fixer-upper. The semi-detached two-story home was built in 1928; it has three bedrooms, an unfinished basement and a big backyard.

How they did it They followed the axiom: “Find the worst house on the best street,” Dave says. They saw a listing for a home down the street from where they were renting. “It needed a lot of work. The kitchen was small enough that you couldn’t open the dishwasher unless you stood beside it. Some of the rafters were not attached to the (walls of the) house. The ceiling was sagging.

“But we knew we loved the neighbourhood. The house was on the market for at least a month and the price had come down by $20,000. A couple of weeks later, a similar house across the street went for around $800,000.”

They paid five per cent as a down payment and began the slow process of renovating, with Dave’s father-in-law doing most of the handy work. “We ripped up the carpets. We put in a new floor. We renovated the kitchen. All of the wiring was redone. (We) knocked out walls, put in new ceilings.”

The renovations have cost them about $100,000. To find deals on furniture and materials, they hit up auctions. “We got our kitchen cabinetry for $7,000 at an auction. We got our hardwood floors for $4,000 for the entire downstairs.”

His best advice “Be realistic about what you want to accomplish and when. We had delusions about it being over in three months. Five years later, we’re still working on the house.”



FP0312_Mortgage_portraits_KIEREN_MELISSA_C_MFWho Melissa, 33, research associate, and Kieren, 34, trainer in the travel industry

Where East Vancouver

What The couple bought an 800-square-foot condo in the summer of 2015 for $365,000. The two-bedroom and two-bathroom unit is in an up-and-coming neighbourhood.

How they did it It took them a little longer to amass enough savings to make a down payment. They had moved countries twice and Melissa was still paying off her student loans. They knew they needed at least five per cent for a down payment to buy a condo. “House (prices) in Vancouver are pretty unrealistic.”

To get more in the bank, they buckled down and chopped discretionary spending and vacation plans. “We made a few sacrifices, stopped going out as much, stopped buying coffees and lunches and just made sure every spare cent we had went towards our savings,” Kieren says. “I wanted a place. (It was) something I was saving towards instead of saving randomly; it was a goal in mind.”

Their best advice Do your research. “We started looking online at apartments about six months before we were ready to buy.” Also, be prepared for closing costs: “There are legal fees, home inspection fees, moving fees, strata fees. It makes it a lot less stressful if you have some spare cash to pay for these things.”



FP0312_Mortgage_portraits_rachel_C_MFWho Rachel, 31, public relations professional

Where Toronto

What Rachel and her husband searched for three years before purchasing a $430,000 three-story stacked townhouse in May 2014. They opted for the 1,300-square-foot property because it was close to downtown and had three bedrooms; with their budget, they had previously only been able to find houses with two bedrooms.

How she did it Before buying, Rachel and her husband rented a one-bedroom apartment for $1,300. (Today, their mortgage payments are $2,000 a month.) “The biggest challenge for us was shifting our mindset to better understand that we could own and put money back into our own pockets,” she says. They met with a realtor and talked about how much they were comfortable spending on mortgage payments. Then they approached their parents for $27,000 to cover a five per cent down payment.

“It was an awkward conversation to have, but it was one that both of our parents were supportive of,” she says. “It was a business-structured conversation. We said, ‘Here is our five-year plan to pay you back.’ We engaged them in our house process. We’d send them listings. We co-signed the mortgage with (my husband’s) mom and dad. They took out a personal loan and we’re paying back that loan.”

Her best advice “If you need support, which I think everyone does, especially in the city, lean on the people you can trust. We didn’t want to look like freeloaders. We said, ‘This is a serious investment for us. This is what we’re planning to do to pay you back.’ Show them that you’ve thought of the possible outcomes. For us, it was like a partnership.”



FP0312_Mortgage_portraits_AHLEY_C_MFWho Ashley, 32, designer

Where Canmore, Alta

What Ashley bought a 900-square-foot two-bedroom condo that was within her budget of $300,000 to $350,000.

How she did it Ashley was renting an apartment within walking distance of her downtown Calgary office. But she had been thinking about buying a home for a few years. She knew that purchasing in the city would be harder to afford and she had always dreamed of living in the mountains. She eventually bought a condo in Canmore, a one-hour commute to Calgary. “To me, it was worth it, to be able to have your own home,” she says. “You work hard and you want to have something to show for it.”

She’s always been a diligent saver and had amassed a lump sum on her own to put towards her home. The next goal is to chip away at the mortgage.

Her best advice “Start saving young and be mindful of what location and what type of lifestyle you want. I wanted to be outdoors as much as possible.”

Illustrations by Mike Faille, National Post


PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I'd rather cut my testicles off than commute to and from Canmore on a daily basis for an extended period of time. Or live in Canmore, for that matter.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Have you considered just shooting yourself in the facecunt?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

PT6A posted:

I'd rather cut my testicles off than commute to and from Canmore on a daily basis for an extended period of time. Or live in Canmore, for that matter.

The blurb is stupid. She could have easily gotten the same thing in pretty inner city Calgary if she'd wanted to.

The more insane thing is that someone would pay $300,000 for a 900 sq ft condo in Canmore at all.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

lmao, so they signed a mortgage for $2000 without all the hidden costs like strata/tax while their apartment rental price was around $1300.

Canadians seem to very good at math.

Wonder how much the hidden costs would add up on a monthly basis for the strata and property taxes?

quote:

How she did it Before buying, Rachel and her husband rented a one-bedroom apartment for $1,300. (Today, their mortgage payments are $2,000 a month.) “The biggest challenge for us was shifting our mindset to better understand that we could own and put money back into our own pockets,” she says.

Not to mention with Canmore they now have 2.20 hour commute each day to the Calgary core.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

But they're not throwing money away.

Equity.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

etalian posted:

lmao, so they signed a mortgage for $2000 without all the hidden costs like strata/tax while their apartment rental price was around $1300.

Canadians seem to very good at math.

Wonder how much the hidden costs would add up on a monthly basis for the strata and property taxes?


Not to mention with Canmore they now have 2.20 hour commute each day to the Calgary core.

quote:

How she did it Before buying, Rachel and her husband rented a one-bedroom apartment for $1,300. (Today, their mortgage payments are $2,000 a month.) “The biggest challenge for us was shifting our mindset to better understand that we could own and put money back into our own pockets,” she says. They met with a realtor and talked about how much they were comfortable spending on mortgage payments. Then they approached their parents for $27,000 to cover a five per cent down payment.

Put money in your pockets, ask mom and dad to cosign a loan to change your housing situation from $1300 to $3000 (2000+300?+250?+500 for mom&dads loan). These people are idiots.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
just gotta shift your mindset man

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Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
To add to the stupidity, She's 31 and has locked her family into a 3k a month housing situation. Having kids between now and then would be economic suicide to drop to 1 income and the associated child care costs. Just imagine having kids at 36 and then paying at a stretch 2500 a month in housing, and another 1k a month in child care, before all the other costs. These people's budget will be so tight that any sort of unplanned event or interest rate increases would financially bankrupt this family. jfc

You can tell that together they make nothing because they had no savings to begin with.

Ed plus CMHC and insurance. House equity seems cool and good :suicide:

Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Mar 16, 2016

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