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Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

mcmagic posted:

RB Dragons decks were playing THOPTER ENGINEER in the 3 drop slot because they didn't want to play her so much.

No, RB Dragons decks played Thopter Engineer because Thopter Engineer is good, silly. It's Flamewake Phoenix that was just "well we need a flying three drop."

I played Drana in that deck with plenty of success in place of Flamewake though, especially once I started seeing a lot of decks with fliers that would eat my Flamewake due to the attack clause. Drana has a lot of synergy with that deck, really.

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Angry Grimace posted:

Uncharted Realms, Magic Story

* Jace rides through the woods of Innistrad on a horse. He has acquired a new coat. He's telling his guide all about this trials and tribulations with Liliana Vess much like an annoying guy at a bar. The guide gets so annoyed by this he turns into a werewolf and tries to live the dream of murdering Jace. Jace tries to use illusions on the werewolf pack that shows up, but it doesn't work, so he creates solid Phantasmal Bears and hits them, which also doesn't really work. He then invades the werewolf's mind and makes them fight each other before reaching the gates of his destination and his his telekinesis, a power he didn't have last week, to unlock it and keep the last werewolf away.

* Jace finds himself surrounded by zombies, who take him to their master, Liliana. Lili is in full-on smuglord mode and tells Jace how much he sucks and how she refuses his help. Jace tells her about the Gatewatch and admits she probably doesn't give a gently caress. Jace is correct: Lili doesn't give a gently caress. He tells her that he needs to find Sorin Markov, and she sells Sorin as the biggest badass ever who could and would kill them both. Jace says "fine, gently caress you I'm heading for Markov Manor." Lili gets upset because Markov Manor is full of the bad guy vampires but Jace is planning to go there anyways. She tries to intimidate him with a zombie attack, which doesn't really work. He says he's going anyways, and she tells him to stay the night, which causes Jace to immediately get hopeful he's gonna score. Instead he has to sleep in a dungeon.

Here lies Jace, he never scored

# ? Mar 16, 2016 17:50

Lets Pickle: Jul 9, 2007

Elyv posted:

code:

Rise From the Tides
5U
Sorcery
Put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield for each instant and/or sorcery card in your graveyard.

This is really good. It's a legit win condition for a Limited U/B or U/R control deck, and maaaaaybe playable in constructed? There's a bunch of ways to mill yourself.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 17:52

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Lets Pickle posted:

This is really good.

Man I wanna draft that in a self mill deck. You only need like 3-4 spells in your graveyard for it to be great.

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Sarmhan: Nov 1, 2011

It seems WOTC wants to push 'spell self-mill' in draft .

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whydirt: Apr 18, 2001; Gaz Posting Brigade

mandatory lesbian posted:

Here lies Jace, he never scored

I already made that exact joke. :argh:

# ? Mar 16, 2016 17:55

Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Lets Pickle posted:

This is really good. It's a legit win condition for a Limited U/B or U/R control deck, and maaaaaybe playable in constructed? There's a bunch of ways to mill yourself.

They come into play tapped, the translation that first came out doesn't say that, but they do. It's probably chaff even in limited.

As for Jace, I don't think he's really that good - he's basically a blue variant on Ob Nixilis, but even that card saw very little play. If U/W is the control deck of choice, maybe, but even then I would suspect they'd prefer to just drop Ojutai. If you're U/B, I think Ob Nixilis is better because Ob Nixilis doesn't kill your Jace, Telepath Unbound. In either case I don't think he's great. Ob Nixilis barely saw play as it is. I think this is a card you see in a control list as a 1-of, maybe even a 2. 5 mana walkers are in a weird spot where they don't seem to have the tuning on them good enough for them to see as much play as you'd imagine, whereas the 6 mana ones tend to be come from behind win conditions (like Elspeth or Chandra) and the 4 mana ones have a lot of utility.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Mar 16, 2016

# ? Mar 16, 2016 17:57

Bread Set Jettison: Jan 8, 2009

sarmhan posted:

It seems WOTC wants to push 'spell self-mill' in draft .

Is this a bad thing? It owned in INN 1.0.

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Sarmhan: Nov 1, 2011

Bread Set Jettison posted:

Is this a bad thing? It owned in INN 1.0.

No it's a cool/good thing. This limited format already looks spicy and we're missing most of the pieces.

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Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

Entropic posted:

The only reason there wasn't a ton more whining about Sigarda in limited was that AVR limited was so terrible no one played it.

It's one of several dozen things that sucked about it, besides Mist Raven and Ghostly Flicker in the same color and rarity, Soulbond Monstrosities clogging the ground, etc.

In a normal limited environment Sigarda would be the thing that ruins a draft occasionally. In AVR she's just yet another colossal mistake on the already giant pile.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:00

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Sickening posted:

If you are wanting to play drana and don't have them, this is your last call to get them for under 10 bucks for a little while. MTG finance grognards are already discussing specs openly this morning, so this is something that is probably already on its way up.

If you don't want to play this card and vampire decks isn't something you feel like you will want to play, hold on to this card if you already have it until its closer to 20 bucks. Hell, this card could net you khans fetches in value very quickly in shops with big standard crowds the closer to rotation we get.

Thanks for the advice. I just emptied out my savings account and invested in Dranas. Bring on rotation!

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

whydirt posted:

I already made that exact joke.

sorry, i don't read posts

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:10

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

i'm actually illiterate, i just hit the keys at random and hope everything comes out okay

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:10

Errant Gin Monks: Oct 2, 2009; "Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch

Sharzak posted:

i'm thinking UW since Esper will be too hard to do with the manabase, but I see where your head is at. Reflector Mage, Just the Wind, poo poo like that to let you survive til you can proc a Thing in the Ice, or just win with Topplegeist

The mana should still be good enough for shards. You have the ally duals and then the enemy man and pain lands. Plenty to get what you need. More variance without the fetches but it is what it is.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:12

dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

sarmhan posted:

No it's a cool/good thing. This limited format already looks spicy and we're missing most of the pieces.

Well, they haven't really previewed any of the limited glue yet.

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Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Whoever named Olivia must have been playing Force of Will TCG lately

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:24

Gay Horney: Feb 10, 2013; by Reene

Errant Gin Monks posted:

The mana should still be good enough for shards. You have the ally duals and then the enemy man and pain lands. Plenty to get what you need. More variance without the fetches but it is what it is.

We will have to see if What black has to offer is worth it I guess. If there's a 2 mana hard removal spell in black that'll be hard to pass up.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:25

Cernunnos: Sep 2, 2011; ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

Errant Gin Monks posted:

The mana should still be good enough for shards. You have the ally duals and then the enemy man and pain lands. Plenty to get what you need. More variance without the fetches but it is what it is.

Speaking of. This weekend is probably the last chance to grab up the BFZ Duals for super cheap before they spike from Standard decks going from a bunch of 1-2-ofs (because FETCHES) to full 4-ofs.

e: I'm not saying they'll skyrocket but they'll probably creep up from the increased need.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:25

Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

Gyshall posted:

Thanks for the advice. I just emptied out my savings account and invested in Dranas. Bring on rotation!

As always, never invest in cardboard folks.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:28

Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

At first I was like "neat" and then I saw "you still pay its costs" and got sad.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:34

MiddleEastBeast: Jan 19, 2003; Forum Bully

Death Bot posted:

Wizards tends to lump up multiple problems into one. Real eastern mythology is off the table forever because they did it once and no one liked it* and that's why maro says Anime World is more likely than Kamigawa 2, so they can restart and make Goku

* because they did a really bad job in a few different ways

If that happens, I will be quitting magic for a block.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:34

Errant Gin Monks: Oct 2, 2009; "Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch

Sharzak posted:

We will have to see if What black has to offer is worth it I guess. If there's a 2 mana hard removal spell in black that'll be hard to pass up.

Also the new vindicate is pretty good.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:36

Errant Gin Monks: Oct 2, 2009; "Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch

Angry Grimace posted:

At first I was like "neat" and then I saw "you still pay its costs" and got sad.

Okay so it doesn't say it gives flashback, is the spell exiled after it is cast from the age yard or does it go back?

This is going to make mr UR prowess deck amazing.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:37

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Errant Gin Monks posted:

Okay so it doesn't say it gives flashback, is the spell exiled after it is cast from the age yard or does it go back?

This is going to make mr UR prowess deck amazing.

There isn't going to be a UR Prowess deck without Taylor Swiftspear

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:39

Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Okay so it doesn't say it gives flashback, is the spell exiled after it is cast from the age yard or does it go back?

This is going to make mr UR prowess deck amazing.

Its hard for a prowess deck to be amazing with only 1 good prowess creature.

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little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

Seems like a solid design for the sets obligatory red enchantment that doesn't do anything.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:42

Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

Sickening posted:

Its hard for a prowess deck to be amazing with only 1 good prowess creature.

abbot and stormchaser mage both seem ok

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:43

Errant Gin Monks: Oct 2, 2009; "Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch

Sickening posted:

Its hard for a prowess deck to be amazing with only 1 good prowess creature.

There are still 2 good one and an okay one. So that's 12 creatures. There may be some prowess in this set as well.

But is gives you more gas with Jori En and expedites etc allow you to cycle through cards faster. I am going to try and see how it works.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:44

little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

Errant Gin Monks posted:

This is going to make mr UR prowess deck amazing.

Imagining your opponent playing the card is a weird way to evaluate spoilers.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:46

Cernunnos: Sep 2, 2011; ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

little munchkin posted:

Seems like a solid design for the sets obligatory red enchantment that doesn't do anything.

It's even worse than the usual ones. This one doesn't do anything in Commander. :v:

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:53

Barry Shitpeas: Dec 17, 2003; there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

Cernunnos posted:

Speaking of. This weekend is probably the last chance to grab up the BFZ Duals for super cheap before they spike from Standard decks going from a bunch of 1-2-ofs (because FETCHES) to full 4-ofs.

e: I'm not saying they'll skyrocket but they'll probably creep up from the increased need.

They aren't very good without fetches and we're almost certainly getting new allied duals in this set, I doubt they'll go up much at all

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:54

Yawgmoth: Sep 10, 2003; This post is cursed!

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Okay so it doesn't say it gives flashback, is the spell exiled after it is cast from the age yard or does it go back?

This is going to make mr UR prowess deck amazing.

It doesn't say exile it so it goes back in the GY once it resolves/is countered.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:54

born on a buy you: Aug 14, 2005; Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All

the new lands are good.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:55

Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

Yeah those dual lands that sometimes come into play untapped aren't good without fetchlands. The best allied color dual lands in the format won't see much play at all :ironicat:

I would be very surprised if they made allied duals better than the BFZ ones.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 18:56

dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

Are there actually enough people who love big dumb red rare enchantments for them to print one every set?

# ? Mar 16, 2016 19:00

Bread Set Jettison: Jan 8, 2009

Angry Grimace posted:

At first I was like "neat" and then I saw "you still pay its costs" and got sad.

Magical Christmas Burn:
lightning axe, casting lightning axe in graveyard discarding madness bolt twice (4 mana)

# ? Mar 16, 2016 19:03

little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

Barry Shitpeas posted:

They aren't very good without fetches and we're almost certainly getting new allied duals in this set, I doubt they'll go up much at all

Yea especially since 4 of these and ~20 basics is a pretty awful manabase, both value-based and consistency-wise.

# ? Mar 16, 2016 19:04

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Angry Grimace posted:

At first I was like "neat" and then I saw "you still pay its costs" and got sad.

it would have cost like 6 in that case (i wish it did too, that would have been a cool card, even if still useless)

# ? Mar 16, 2016 19:04

Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

Bread Set Jettison posted:

Magical Christmas Burn:
lightning axe, casting lightning axe in graveyard discarding madness bolt twice (4 mana)

If only lightning axe went to the dome.

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PERPETUAL IDIOT: Sep 12, 2003

Is that enchantment playable in modern storm?

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