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zoux posted:It sounds like you're saying that race is actually a political concept and whiteness didn't exist as a unifying identity until rich slave holding plantation owners dreamed it up to drive a wedge between poor whites and soon-to-be-poor blacks Eh.... It certainly is a social construct that had changed over time. Business Gorillas posted:looking forward to all the tut-tutting about how primary chat needs to be in YCS since someone said something other than "look at how stupid all of these bernie supporters are You are, of course, completely above such behavior.
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zoux posted:It sounds like you're saying that race is actually a political concept and whiteness didn't exist as a unifying identity until rich slave holding plantation owners dreamed it up to drive a wedge between poor whites and soon-to-be-poor blacks Let me get this straight: Biological Sex isnt important, people can choose to be any identity they want. but White people only think they are white people, but are not as race doesnt really exist. Divide and conquer.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Let me get this straight: Oooh you are actually a poo poo head.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Let me get this straight: Oh you're an idiot I see.
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computer parts posted:Fortunately, the far left doesn't really exist. well they do but they don't vote  (Please note this is a joke, please don't report me  )
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Business Gorillas posted:looking forward to all the tut-tutting about how primary chat needs to be in YCS since someone said something other than "look at how stupid all of these bernie supporters are Primary chat isn't for much longer in this world anyway, what with Sanders having a fork stuck in him as of today.
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zoux posted:Actually you're the first meltdown of the day. that's a pretty low ceiling for a meltdown  see you guys in 2018 when everyone's wondering where the democratic base is and why nobody's getting excited about "center-right democrat" versus "far-right republican"
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It's not that productive to be bitching about how we need to educate the poor white folk to get them to see the light, and it's actively counterproductive to be going at it with such ferocity that you sound like you're proposing a drat re-education camp for cultural indoctrination into Proper White Urban Society or stripping away their right to vote. There are a huge number of cultural and socioeconomic factors at play; it's not about tolerating the viewpoint in the least, their ideology is terrible, but they're not necessarily idiots and not necessarily bad people and you're not accomplishing poo poo by declaring war on them.
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Business Gorillas posted:that's a pretty low ceiling for a meltdown If you are a young voter we won't actually see you in 2018. Also the Democratic "base" is black and hispanic voters now, sorry about your culture being destroyed.
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The Kingfish posted:But it does effect the information that you are presented with. The most that anyone can do is process the information they obtain. Yes. And they can make a choice. The racism and bigotry and xenophobia made me bitter. And after hurting someone, I saw it for what it was. Mr Hootington posted:Do you feel the same way about racism in minority groups and feel those cultures should be destroyed? In America? They're not really a systemic problem, but if they become so? Yes. Preferably by people from those communities.
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Interestingly, exit polling shows that most Democrats* are fine with either candidate: (Illinois exit poll) Dissatisfied doesn't necessarily mean "I won't vote for them", it just means "I don't really like it". Even with that though, 3 in 4 voters are happy with either candidate. *Another quick note: actual registered Democrats predominantly voted for Hillary (57-42 in this poll). A lot of Bernie's support was from "Independents".
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Mr Hootington posted:Do you feel the same way about racism in minority groups and feel those cultures should be destroyed? The racist parts of it, sure! I wouldn't suggest that a whole culture should be obliterated. That includes our dear redneck cousins who would no doubt love to beat me with a tire iron upon finding out that I support gay marriage, racial equaltiy, gender equality, and transgender rights, and hold socialist ideals that border on red communism! I would like to excise the part of the culture that wants to beat me with a tire iron and destroy it forever, but they can keep all the other stuff about motorsports and Jesus if they want.
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computer parts posted:Interestingly, exit polling shows that most Democrats* are fine with either candidate: Wha? So only 2/3 of the people supporting the candidate as their first choice would be happy if that candidate won? What is this, Max Ironic Vote Day?
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OAquinas posted:Wha? So only 2/3 of the people supporting the candidate as their first choice would be happy if that candidate won? Other way around, 2/3 of the people satisfied with candidate A would choose them as their first choice. Imagine the choice was between vanilla and chocolate Ice cream. Most people like both of them, but some people prefer chocolate and some people prefer vanilla. computer parts fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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Talmonis posted:Yes. And they can make a choice. The racism and bigotry and xenophobia made me bitter. And after hurting someone, I saw it for what it was. You can't make a choice if you haven't been presented with an option, or had the opportunity to recognize the often disconnected consequences of your actions.
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The Kingfish posted:You can't make a choice if you haven't been presented with an option, or had the opportunity to recognize the often disconnected consequences of your actions. You can't tell me that the people who chased down and blockaded a schoolbus full of refugee children, shouting "U.S.A." at them didn't see what they were doing. Edit: And even if you're right, that only applies to isolated, 100% white communities that don't interact with minorities ever. Those aren't the worst of the bunch as it is. It's the ones who do have that opportunity that are the worst of all.
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Business Gorillas posted:it blows my mind that people sit here scratching their heads about depressed democratic turnout and then post stuff like "why don't all of these disillusioned idiots vote accept reality and vote for my candidate already? Um, I'm a Sanders supporter.
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deadly_pudding posted:The racist parts of it, sure! I wouldn't suggest that a whole culture should be obliterated. That includes our dear redneck cousins who would no doubt love to beat me with a tire iron upon finding out that I support gay marriage, racial equaltiy, gender equality, and transgender rights, and hold socialist ideals that border on red communism! I would like to excise the part of the culture that wants to beat me with a tire iron and destroy it forever, but they can keep all the other stuff about motorsports and Jesus if they want. Most rednecks don't want to beat you with a tire iron. Most of them might not like you but they mostly just want to go to work and then go home and watch motorsports without beating anybody up. There's a lot of myth-building by people who have never been to rural America.
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https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/710170346821984256 Whoa Fidel Castronaut posted:Most rednecks don't want to beat you with a tire iron. Most of them might not like you but they mostly just want to go to work and then go home and watch motorsports without beating anybody up. There's a lot of myth-building by people who have never been to rural America. It's just the same kind of othering that all bigots do.
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Anecdotally, a lot of the conservatives I know on Facebook think it's a pretty smart decision, at least in the "it'll force the Senate to react" sense.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:So on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being Anthony Kennedy and 10 being RBG, how liberal is Garland? reportedly a 5 or 6
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Dexo posted:On the other hand Donald Trump Supreme court justice would own. His Dissents would be spectacular. And honestly with Scalia gone who is going to write the awesome conservative dissents Now that's just pure applesauce.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/710175948335927296 This is the childish poo poo that I crave from our pathetic lawmakers.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I don't know anything about Garland, he may in fact be a great judge, but I must say that the idea of the second cousin of Iowa Dictator For Life Terry Branstad on the supreme court gives me chills. Does anybody actually have any bond with their second cousins? I don't even know their names. All I know is that they all do meth.
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computer parts posted:Interestingly, exit polling shows that most Democrats* are fine with either candidate: Can someone please explain or redo this in a way that doesn't make my head hurt?
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deadly_pudding posted:This is the childish poo poo that I crave from our pathetic lawmakers. Not to mention he's opposing it on the floor, after a proper hearing and committee process, with his vote, as is his constitutional responsibility. And they're like "SEE! SMOKING GUN!"
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Modus Pwnens posted:Can someone please explain or redo this in a way that doesn't make my head hurt? The first question asks "If Hillary Clinton won, would you be happy?" 73% said yes, 27% said no. The second question asks "Who are you voting for?" 69% of the people who said yes said "Hillary", the other 30% said "Bernie".
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/710170346821984256 I'd say it's more often an inability to recognize more than two possible positions, or for that matter that people don't even see the same two possible positions. I get the feeling some people are getting lumped in with groups they don't realize exist. At this point I have literally no idea who's using "kidnapping and re-education" as hyperbole, in the rhetorical sense, to mock federal education standards; who's using it to sincerely characterize federal education standards; who doesn't think anyone is seriously, literally suggesting it; or if anyone is actually, literally suggesting it. Like, I've reached the conclusion the "nothing matters" meme is not a reference I'm missing but a verbal tick resulting from a potent cocktail of layered irony, bitter sarcasm, excessive/insufficient masturbation, and Lovecraftian horror upon having glimpsed the truth. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Does anybody actually have any bond with their second cousins? I don't even know their names. All I know is that they all do meth. I'm not even sure that I have second cousins. My first cousins are all sporty and sociable ubermenschen who will probably do way better in college than I did  . The one who went to Salt Lake City is basically Captain America, and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in politics if the mormons can pick him up.I always think it's kinda weird when a bunch of government types have like family ties to each other. Reminds me of the old lines of nobility in a way that's not real great.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/SenToomey/status/710127298779942912 I'd make a quip about republicans "giving the game away" but they've done that dozens of times already and few people seem to care.
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Modus Pwnens posted:Can someone please explain or redo this in a way that doesn't make my head hurt? This chart is pure garbage, but I think it means: 73% of Dems say they will be satisfied with Clinton. Of that 73%, 69% have Clinton as their first choice and 30% have Sanders as their first choice. And then the reverse: 75% of Dems say they will be satisfied with Sanders, and of that 75%, 37% have Clinton as their first choice and 63% have Sanders as their first choice.
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Radish posted:Electing judges already makes me think of that massively unqualified lady in the rascal that basically treated her court like it was her little royal audience and made people do her errands and stuff. Yeah, we already have issues with judges elected on the local level. Now imagine that but on the level of the Supreme Court.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Yeah, we already have issues with judges elected on the local level. Now imagine that but on the level of the Supreme Court. There are plenty of garbage appointed judges too.
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zoux posted:There are plenty of garbage appointed judges too. It's almost like reducing our political process to a popularity contest regularly backfires in almost every area.
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