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pixaal posted:You can also have it not peel off and just print 150,000 labels overnight for mass labeling of products all on a nice roll. Basically figure out how large a roll is and print the entire thing, put it next to someone labeling product in a few hours. You can print an entire 8inch roll in a few hours. Extra part is called a rewinder. We use the peel off mode when the labels need to be serialized. We do have computers that have a dozen networked label printers installed, so a manager can send a print job to a specific printer if needed.
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you ate my cat posted:I remember hearing (I think from here) that the reason people answer yes to an 'x or y' question is that they parse it differently than you mean it. Instead of "Do you want x or do you want y?", they interpret it as "Do you want either x or y?" This seems especially prevalent when you're asking what something that isn't working right is doing. It's doing one of those two things, so they say yes. This. Every time you ask a user some question, or ask them to complete some instruction, and you get back an answer that obviously misunderstands your intention, consider how you can change your wording to be more in line with what they might understand. And if you're instructing someone live over the phone, make sure to constantly check with them what is actually happening. Reference elements to click not just by name, but by their location relative to other things, shape, colors, icons, etc. It's fine to mention the proper names of thing, to help reinforce correct terminology, but just never expect others to understand what you mean. Like the way both the task bar and the title bars of windows have come to be known as "menu bar". "Okay in the task bar at the very bottom of your screen, you have the clock, right? Just next to that, you should be able to see a white symbol for a speaker, it's sort of like a triangle but not quite pointy. If you click on that once, and wait a bit, a tall bar pops up above it. Are you following me?" - and then wait for the user to catch up. Of course there's also a large element of judging the user's level of knowledge and how secure they feel about it. Few are stupid, many are insecure or lazy.
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nielsm posted:consider how you can change your wording to be more in line with what they might understand. I don't think my boss would appreciate it if I started responding to client emails with nothing but emoji and pictures of cats.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:35
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"I can't print" "All good fam it's lit now 😂😂🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯"
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Flatscan posted:I don't think my boss would appreciate it if I started responding to client emails with nothing but emoji and pictures of cats. I commincate with mid to senior level business people in SE Asia a lot. Most of them don't really know me that well but about half think emojis are pefectly fine in otherwise serious emails. I don't personally care but it is a bit jarring.
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A ticket came in:quote:The welding shop break room PC won't turn on. Please fix right away.    The PSU fan was clogged, but it still wouldn't boot after clearing. RIP that PC
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That a Pentium 4 still in the wild? Maybe a core 2 duo?
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pixaal posted:That a Pentium 4 still in the wild? Maybe a core 2 duo? My money's on Pentium D.
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Hungry Computer posted:A ticket came in: A new PSU will easily let that tortured machine continue plodding the death march it deserves. I had tons of machines like that at my last job. I demanded sealed / vented / filtered boxes for factory floor machines, and was built crates out of pallet wood to keep the machines in. My friend who replaced me at this shop confirms they're still in crates, and replaced all the time.
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I got really mad at a PM at my old job for doing this loving constantly.
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pixaal posted:That a Pentium 4 still in the wild? Maybe a core 2 duo? Yeah, Optiplex 745 with a core 2. I scavenged together a 755 core 2 and added an SSD to replace it. No way I'm putting one of our new machines in there, especially since it's only used for web browsing and assignment printing.
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Hungry Computer posted:Yeah, Optiplex 745 with a core 2. I scavenged together a 755 core 2 and added an SSD to replace it. No way I'm putting one of our new machines in there, especially since it's only used for web browsing and assignment printing. Use that station as your garbage outlet. Any case of "This machine still works, we can't throw it away!" gets lined up for the Shop Break Room death march.
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I've still got a functioning slotted Pentium 3 running Windows 98.
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I've a 386 that was mission critical here until about two years ago. It is still sitting there, because what the hell else are we going to do with it, it's been here longer than all but two employees.
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Antifreeze Head posted:I've a 386 that was mission critical here until about two years ago. I haven't seen a 386 since i was like 8, I miss that thing 
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I've still got a functioning slotted Pentium 3 running Windows 98. I still have a Core2Duo build from Feb 2008 sitting on my kitchen counter, working at recovering data from a 2 TB drive that went into failure mode. Became redundant when I did my new build last April (i7), but other than turning down some graphics settings in games, was working fine as my primary system at home. Spent extra time and money on the build so it would be beefy enough to last a while... might have been pushing it a bit.  Don't think I have records of when I did the P3 build, though, which was one emergency-replacement (gently caress you power company) out from being the direct predecessor to the C2D.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:28
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MF_James posted:I haven't seen a 386 since i was like 8, I miss that thing Happy memories! 
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pixaal posted:That a Pentium 4 still in the wild? Maybe a core 2 duo? I've got maybe 60 or 70 P4's still running. My idea of a good computer is a core 2 duo, of which we have hundreds..
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Just today my friend who's an electrician at a local engine plant shared in our Hangout the fact he just found six of these, brand new still in the box:
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Nerdrock posted:Just today my friend who's an electrician at a local engine plant shared in our Hangout the fact he just found six of these, brand new still in the box: That is a thing of beauty.
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Nerdrock posted:Just today my friend who's an electrician at a local engine plant shared in our Hangout the fact he just found six of these, brand new still in the box: 
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Nerdrock posted:Just today my friend who's an electrician at a local engine plant shared in our Hangout the fact he just found six of these, brand new still in the box: A quick googling informs me that I am barely older than that Motherboard. I'm just  ing at all the real estate taken up by onboard memory chips and what appear to be side by side ISA slots at the top?
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Mar 17, 2016 20:47
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Kurieg posted:A quick googling informs me that I am barely older than that Motherboard. 8 and 16 bit, thank you very much! That onboard stuff is probably L2 cache. In the days when you didn't have build in FDD and HDD controllers, or sound, or video, or even serial or parallel ports, everything had a card. I likely still have some old controller cards somewhere.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:53
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Kurieg posted:A quick googling informs me that I am barely older than that Motherboard.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:56
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anthonypants posted:You mean ISA, not IDE. I'm not sure what the double-length one is, though. VESA video port, I think? poo poo, been a while for me to. I first started loving up computers with a 486/sx 25. The memories.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:57
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Siochain posted:VESA video port, I think?
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NASA will pay a lot of money for those things. IIRC they have a lot of legacy stuff that runs on 386/486 hardware and are starting to hit ebay for parts. Edit: 8086 but whatever.
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anthonypants posted:Actually it looks like they say SLOT1 and SLOT2, so they're probably for some kind of riser or backplane? Yeah looks like a slot of a daughter board.
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anthonypants posted:Actually it looks like they say SLOT1 and SLOT2, so they're probably for some kind of riser or backplane? You may be correct. I didn't quite think it looked like VESA, but wasn't sure. Bectcha a VESA video card plugged into the daughterboard, and the whole thing went into a horizontal case.
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Warehouses and workshops are what passively cooled industrial PCs are for. Or thin clients maybe.
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Siochain posted:VESA video port, I think? 386 SX with 2 whole megs of RAM. I wrote a menu system for my various DOS executables using Turbo Pascal. Ahhh, memories.
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pshh. the computer i learned to read and do DOS commands was an epson computer with a 2MB hard disk. My dad still has it. I should liberate it some day.
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Flatscan posted:I don't think my boss would appreciate it if I started responding to client emails with nothing but emoji and pictures of cats. After Mickens, I have had to fight the urge to replace the error messages in one of our internal tools with 🏈🐺🌴🌴🌴
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Nerdrock posted:Just today my friend who's an electrician at a local engine plant shared in our Hangout the fact he just found six of these, brand new still in the box: 486DX... SIMMs.... ISA slots... AMBIOS 1992 Copyright... So clean... should've sent a poet.
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I shed a tear when I saw that.
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Siochain posted:You may be correct. I didn't quite think it looked like VESA, but wasn't sure. Bectcha a VESA video card plugged into the daughterboard, and the whole thing went into a horizontal case. VESA slots were much higher pin density than ISA slots. It would look like a PCI slot on the end of a 16bit ISA slot if it were VESA. The double length ISA slot is for a riser card that would provide additional 16bit ISA slots. It could also be used to host a memory expansion board, but those were obsolete by the time this board would have been made. This board has a bunch of features you don't see in modern boards: In the lower left is the CPU cache. This board has 64kbit of SRAM cache, but up to 128kbit was possible if all the sockets were populated. Above that on the left is the jumper block for configuring board features. Everything was done that way, the BIOS pretty much only let you configure HD parameters and the time. The empty pin blocks running up the left side would have been connections for the reset button and power lights, and maybe a turbo button. No power button, AT didn't support soft-on or soft-off. The empty socket next to the 486DX is for a math co-processor (FPU). In this case, the DX has a co-processor already but a lower end 486SX wouldn't, so the upgrade option existed. This was all marketing flim-flam, as the 486 FPU was just a 486DX that took over completely, leaving the SX unused, though it had to be present. (Note that the 486DX and 486SX were both 32bit CPU's, unlike the 386 series, where the DX was 32bit and the SX was 16bit). FPU became standard on all processors from then on until the advent of SSE instructions, which replaced it, emulating the old FPU. The two soldered UMC chips are likely the memory controller and cache controller, both of which were part of the mainboard, and not integrated into the CPU. This meant different mainboards could have huge performance differences. It was about this time intel became fed up with the shoddy controllers they kept encountering, and started making their own. The two silver 'boxes' are quartz clocks, for generating timing signals. The red bars are all resistors, which served to smooth power and signal flow throughout the board. Today we'd use capacitors for this (and better board design), but resistors were much cheaper back then. The small rectangular chips scattered everywhere are simple logic controllers, and served to control traffic flow between different parts of the board and keep everything on the same timing cycle. The memory are SIMM's, single inline memory module, and feature SDRAM running at what was most likely 8Mhz. In the lower right is an AT keyboard socket and white AT power connector (black together!). The blue tube above that is the CMOS battery. The square socketed chip is probably the ISA controller. The BIOS is socketed nearby, and wouldn't be larger than 64 or 128kbit at most, and not flashable, it would have to have been pulled and replaced. Unlabeled next to it would have been the CPU microcode firmware (note that this chip is from intel as well). I've configured boards like this and sold them to people and used them for work related systems (so old). This board also isn't brand new, the two white plastic standoffs mean it was mounted and used at some point. EoRaptor fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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EoRaptor posted:It could also be used to host a memory expansion board, but those were obsolete by the time this board would have been made. That's where I've seen a double ISA before! I saw my Uncle working on a PC with a memory expansion board once when I was a kid. Thanks, that's been bugging me since ever since the pic was posted. I also seem to remember him using a soldering iron to either add or remove long pins from some RAM sticks so they could be used in a different PC. A quick google search says he was probably removing pins from a 30-pin SIPP to fit into a 30-ping SIMM? That seems crazy.
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I probably should google this but what the hell did those old turbo buttons even do?
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:I probably should google this but what the hell did those old turbo buttons even do? Toggled between full speed mode and a reduced speed mode designed to support older software meant for the 8088 chips that used the CPU frequency for timing. That's right, the Turbo buttons slowed down the computers.
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