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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Apparently the funding was always to create a bunch of resources then shut down any ongoing funding

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MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012

Doctor Spaceman posted:

E: Safe Schools is getting axed entirely after 2017.

Are there any articles about this yet? I can only find articles about Christensen being a shitbag.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
This Safe Schools decision is really upsetting, geez... Leave it to this country to find all new ways of depressing me :(

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



At least my family has a way out of this shithole country, the rest of y'all are gently caress--



Oh. Oh, never mind.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Cleretic posted:

Welp. Good thing I was never having kids, because I don't think I'd want to raise one in this country.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

The Safe Schools decision is where I'm frankly wondering what the point was of replacing Abbott.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Trapezium Dave posted:

The Safe Schools decision is where I'm frankly wondering what the point was of replacing Abbott.

Because to a lot of people, the same poo poo coming out of a different arsehole somehow smells sweeter.

MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012

Mithranderp posted:

Because to a lot of people, the same poo poo coming out of a different arsehole somehow smells sweeter.

Exactly this. Abbott wasn't replaced because he was too conservative.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

MonoAus posted:

Exactly this. Abbott wasn't replaced because he was too conservative.

Abbott was too obvious, and increasingly difficult to control in public.

Turnbull can sit there looking suave as he wants, and he may actually hold some okay views on some subjects, but at the end of the day he is beholden to two conservative parties. More so, because really has to work hard to keep the conservatives happy.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
Malcolm Turnbull bullied into gutting an anti-bullying school program on the National Day of Action Against Bullying.


You can't write this poo poo.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

MonoAus posted:

Are there any articles about this yet? I can only find articles about Christensen being a shitbag.

Haven't seen any details, just a few references on Twitter / Buzzfeed. Birmingham confirmed it at a press conference though.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

quote:

Turnbull government unveils dramatic changes to Safe Schools program

Anti-bullying material has been ‘gutted of all its bad content’, says George Christensen


Lenore Taylor Political editor
@lenoretaylor
Friday 18 March 2016 17.43 AEDT


The Turnbull government has made dramatic changes to its Safe Schools anti-bullying program that have been described by the scheme’s opponents as “gutting” its content.

The changes sharply reduce the lesson content, restrict it to secondary schools, shift the program to a government website, remove all links to other material and sites, and add a requirement that students get parental consent and schools get parent-body consent before opting to use its materials.

The education minister, Simon Birmingham, said this was a “strong but measured response” to the concerns raised by Christian groups and conservative MPs, including the former prime minister Tony Abbott, who demanded for the program to be defunded. There were also claims made that it promoted Marxism and had links to paedophilia and pornography.

Birmingham said it left intact the program’s core aims – to give support and guidance to students grappling with questions of sexual identity and to allow them to feel safe at school.

But one of the leading opponents, the Liberal National backbencher George Christensen, said the program had been “gutted of all its bad content” and he was expecting that the Safe Schools Coalition, which delivers the program, would reject the new conditions. He said, if that happened, the minister had assured him the remainder of the program’s funding would be “pulled”.

“It’s all going,” Christensen said. “Boys in girls’ school uniforms, girls and boys using the same toilets, classroom role plays where kids imagine they have no genitalia or they’re gay ... I doubt the Safe Schools Coalition – who came up with with the weird and wonderful elements of this, attempting to instil queer theory, sexual liberation and Marxism into classrooms – will accept this. And if they don’t, the funding will be cut.”

The Labor party accused the prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, of giving in to the conservative bullies in his own ranks.
Safe Schools stoush highlights deep divisions in Coalition
Read more

The program’s $8m in federal funding finishes next year. Birmingham said it had never been intended for the funding to be extended but the anti-bullying content would “live on” on the government’s Safe Schools Hub.

Birmingham said he did not believe the program itself had been used for “activism and advocacy” in the classroom – as many of its critics have contended. But he said some of the people involved in it had presented themselves as representing the program.

“They did so outside the resources of the program but foolishly allowed the name of the program to be used,” he said. They will now be banned from “political activism … that represents their views as being endorsed by the program”.

A spokeswoman for the Safe Schools Coalition said it was considering the report.

The government’s response goes considerably further than the recommendations in the review by Prof William Louden from the University of Western Australia, which was released simultaneously. The response includes:

  • Requiring parental consent for student participation.
  • Requiring the agreement of parental bodies to decide whether, and how, a school will participate in the program.
  • Amending the lesson in which year 7 and 8 students imagine that they are attracted to the same sex and lessons in which students are asked to pledge how they will be an ally to an LGTBI friend (Louden said only that these lessons were sound and age-appropriate but that some activities might not be suitable in some class contexts and that this should be a matter for teachers’ judgment).
  • Redesigning a lesson about the biological processes behind intersex variation (Loudon said it was suitable, educationally sound and age appropriate).
  • Requiring that resources called OMG I’m Queer, OMG My Friend’s Queer and Stand Out only be available for one-on-one discussions between students and qualified staff (Loudon said this should be left up to schools).
  • Removing all links and references to other any nongovernment organisation from the Safe Schools material, including the Minus18 site that contained materials to which many conservative critics had objected.
  • Requiring that “the national and local program managers not bring the program into disrepute or engage in political advocacy in any way that represents their views as being endorsed by the program” and that its resources “not be used for political advocacy”.
  • Requiring that the entire resource be moved to the Australian government Safe Schools Hub website, with the existing Safe Schools website used only as a contact point. Birmingham said: “We will expect that the Safe Schools Coalition website will remove all such resources from its website and purely be a website that schools can access to find out how to register to participate in the program and who to contact in their relevant state or territory. It will be a contact point only.”

Labor’s education spokeswoman, Kate Ellis, accused the Coalition government of giving in to the “conservative bullies” within its own ranks.

“How do we expect any student in the schoolyard to stand up to bullies if Australia’s own prime minister can’t stand up to the bullies within the fringe of his own party?” she said. “What we have seen today is the Turnbull government have overturned the decisions that their own government took just a matter of months ago.”

The Greens’ sexuality spokesman, Senator Robert Simms, said it was “clear that Malcolm Turnbull has thrown LGBTI young people under the bus today by bowing to the rightwing backbench bullies and stripping back the Safe Schools program”.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]




quote:

But one of the leading opponents, the Liberal National backbencher George Christensen, said the program had been “gutted of all its bad content” and he was expecting that the Safe Schools Coalition, which delivers the program, would reject the new conditions. He said, if that happened, the minister had assured him the remainder of the program’s funding would be “pulled”.

“It’s all going,” Christensen said. “Boys in girls’ school uniforms, girls and boys using the same toilets, classroom role plays where kids imagine they have no genitalia or they’re gay ... I doubt the Safe Schools Coalition – who came up with with the weird and wonderful elements of this, attempting to instil queer theory, sexual liberation and Marxism into classrooms – will accept this. And if they don’t, the funding will be cut.”

That's pretty poo poo.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

tithin posted:

That's pretty poo poo.

Sexuality Education == Marxism

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



hooman posted:

Sexuality Education == Marxism

It's not worth the mockery, read the glee in that, you can hear the satisfaction there.

These people don't represent the vast majority of australians, how do they keep getting elected.

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood
https://newmatilda.com/2016/03/18/senate-voting-reforms-just-passed-hopefully-labors-gay-slurs-will-too/

Wonder if Penny laughed along when they joked about confusing a gay man for a woman

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/jonkudelka/status/710698281366458368
https://twitter.com/jonkudelka/status/710698313595551745

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
How do you get the awful app to display twitters inline

MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012

This is sad news.

MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012

tithin posted:

It's not worth the mockery, read the glee in that, you can hear the satisfaction there.

These people don't represent the vast majority of australians, how do they keep getting elected.

I can't understand how anybody could read his words and feel anything other than repulsed. What a disgusting human being.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

asio posted:

https://newmatilda.com/2016/03/18/senate-voting-reforms-just-passed-hopefully-labors-gay-slurs-will-too/

Wonder if Penny laughed along when they joked about confusing a gay man for a woman

Penny Wong is a proud advocate and defender of the queer community (when it lets her yell at political opponents)

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Negligent posted:

How do you get the awful app to display twitters inline

Wish I knew.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Negligent posted:

How do you get the awful app to display twitters inline

Assuming you're using the most recent version, it's under "options" and either "thread" or "forum" and i think it's under thread tbh.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
The more I think about George Christensen, the more his sheer existence as a politician in Australia saddens me.

He said all these things. He believes all of them, he genuinely thinks he's in the right by doing all this. And he's not only not alone, so many other people agree with him on this that he's a member of the currently-ruling political party. People VOTED for him. Lots of people. poo poo, some of my family probably would've voted for him if they lived in a place where they could. I know my uncle would've. My dad probably would have until I convinced him to vote Greens.

I am not looking forward to leaving this closet.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Cleretic posted:

poo poo, some of my family probably would've voted for him if they lived in a place where they could.

He's from Queensland by the way. North Queensland. The part of Queensland that Queenslanders laugh at.

Also remember that time he challenged a twitter critic to a fight irl?

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Zenithe posted:

He's from Queensland by the way. North Queensland. The part of Queensland that Queenslanders laugh at.

I'm from Adelaide, so that doesn't give me much solace since those same family members probably did vote in Bernardi.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

I actually can't put into words how disgusted and angry I feel reading that 'statement' on the article about safe schools. Like how much of a soulless human being do you have to be to say that kind of poo poo as a person in power. What happened in your life to leave you empty towards other people.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
Guys I've got a hot new take.

Are you ready for this? Have you heard about this?

Malcolm Turnbully

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Milky Moor posted:

Guys I've got a hot new take.

Are you ready for this? Have you heard about this?

Malcolm Turnbully

Still a better name then most media outlets and politicians could come up with tbh, 9/10 for creativity and relevance.

Will be attending a rally against this recent decision on Sunday at the Vic State library, because gently caress the system that doesn't listen.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Redcordial posted:

Will be attending a rally against this recent decision on Sunday at the Vic State library, because gently caress the system that doesn't listen.

Do you have details on this? I'm not sure how much good a rally will do on this, but gently caress if I'm gonna not be there to express my outrage at it.

Plus, never been to something like this before, might as well start somewhere.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Milky Moor posted:

Guys I've got a hot new take.

Are you ready for this? Have you heard about this?

Malcolm Turnbully

Bill Shorten is that you????

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Cleretic posted:

Do you have details on this? I'm not sure how much good a rally will do on this, but gently caress if I'm gonna not be there to express my outrage at it.

Plus, never been to something like this before, might as well start somewhere.

Sure :)

Here is the Facebook event if you're a user -

https://www.facebook.com/events/1139644442736811/

And here is the information regarding times and locations in case you aren't a Facebook user -

Monday 6PM, State Library of Victoria, 328 Swanston Street.

"No to the gutting of Safe Schools!
No to restrictions on the program!
Show the government that there is wide community support for Safe Schools.
Meet at State Library at 6pm for speeches and a march to the corner of Flinders and Swanston Sts."

Also I would expect that there will be a considerable turnout as there is a major rally and march being held on Sunday and these types of things tend to invigorate you to attend more such events. Which is a great thing, and I hope you do come to support the SSP on Monday for there aren't many feelings better than standing alongside thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of people with the same message as you. That is a remarkable feeling that shouldn't be underestimated, if you have the chance and ability to attend protests for anything worthwhile that you believe in, you should jump on the chance.

Redcordial fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Mar 18, 2016

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Hey did everyone in Brisbane just get a loving robocall from Rod Harding at the same time? I'm at work and everyone's mobiles went off at the same time like a god-drat horror film.

Then I picked it up

HI THIS IS ROD HARDING.

seen no such stuff from the LNP so where the gently caress is the ALP getting all its money from. Outspending the LNP is a rarity.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Anidav posted:

Hey did everyone in Brisbane just get a loving robocall from Rod Harding at the same time? I'm at work and everyone's mobiles went off at the same time like a god-drat horror film.

Then I picked it up

HI THIS IS ROD HARDING.

seen no such stuff from the LNP so where the gently caress is the ALP getting all its money from. Outspending the LNP is a rarity.

The call is coming from inside your work.

Prepare your rod.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Redcordial posted:

Sure :)

Here is the Facebook event if you're a user -

https://www.facebook.com/events/1139644442736811/

And here is the information regarding times and locations in case you aren't a Facebook user -

Monday 6PM, State Library of Victoria, 328 Swanston Street.

"No to the gutting of Safe Schools!
No to restrictions on the program!
Show the government that there is wide community support for Safe Schools.
Meet at State Library at 6pm for speeches and a march to the corner of Flinders and Swanston Sts."

Also I would expect that there will be a considerable turnout as there is a major rally and march being held on Sunday and these types of things tend to invigorate you to attend more such events. Which is a great thing, and I hope you do come to support the SSP on Monday for there aren't many feelings better than standing alongside thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of people with the same message as you. That is a remarkable feeling that shouldn't be underestimated, if you have the chance and ability to attend protests for anything worthwhile that you believe in, you should jump on the chance.

I don't use Facebook, so thanks!

Any details on the where/when on Sunday, too? Because the alternative is staying in an apartment close enough to the Formula 1 that I could hear it rattling the light fixtures, being at a march sounds way more fun.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc59xrP-2HI

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Cleretic posted:

I don't use Facebook, so thanks!

Any details on the where/when on Sunday, too? Because the alternative is staying in an apartment close enough to the Formula 1 that I could hear it rattling the light fixtures, being at a march sounds way more fun.

Definitely, and the event on Sunday is the Palm Sunday Walk for Justice for Refugees.

It is being held at the same place as Mondays rally which is the Victorian State Library, and it is scheduled to start at 2PM. Getting there a little earlier would be advised given the large turnout expected, just in case you need time to warm-up to a large crowd etc.

I was going to describe the history and significance of this event, but I'd rather just copy the words from the Facebook page as they explain it much better than I could.

I apologise for the length of this, but I feel this is something that should be reflected upon and to recognize the many organisations that support humane treatment of refugees against an abhorrently cruel and harsh Government.

"Speakers include:

Daniel Webb - Human Rights Law Centre
Nazir Yousafi - Refugee & President Victorian Afghan Associations Network
Senator Sarah Hanson Young – Australian Greens
Interfaith Panel: Rabbi Jonathan Keren-Black - The Leo Baeck Centre, Mohamed Mohideen - Islamic Council of Victoria, Stuart McMillan, President Uniting Church,
Lisa Fitzpatrick - State Secretary ANMF
Pamela Curr - Asylum Seeker Resource Centre

Musical performances by Dan Sultan, Melbourne Mass Gospel Choir, South of the River, Little Foot and Shaking The Tree (Dan Sultan will be performing at the end of the march in Queen Vic Gardens, half the speakers will also be at the end of the march).

In 2014 nearly 10,000 attended the Palm Sunday rally. In 2015, 75 organisations endorsed the event and an estimated 15,000 people attended. We want the 2016 gathering to be bigger still.

New Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has expressed 'concern' over abuses on Manus and Nauru, but has not made any policy changes. The Coalition government has flagged its intention to return 267 people including 72 children to Nauru. We want to Let Them Stay, we want to Close Manus and Nauru. A large vibrant Palm Sunday event will help to build momentum for change.

We currently have 109 different organisations endorsing the 2016 Melbourne Palm Sunday Walk for Justice for Refugees event.

1. 1. Act for Peace
2. Adventist Development and Relief Agency
3. African Australian Multicultural Employment and Youth Services
4. African Australian Small Business Association
5. African Think Tank
6. Amnesty International
7. Asylum Seeker Resource Centre
8. Australian Adventists Supporting Asylum Seekers
9. Australia Asia Worker Links
10. Australian Churches Refugee Taskforce
11. Australian Education Union
12. Australian Hazara Women's Friendship Network
13. Australian Iranian Women's Association.
14. Australian Jewish Democratic Society
15. Australian Manufacturing Workers Union
16. Australian Nursing and Midwifery Union
17. Australian Services Union - Victorian Private Sector Branch
18. Australian Services Union - Victorian and Tasmanian Authorities and Services Branch
19. Australian Student Christian Movement
20. Australian Unions for Western Sahara
21. Australian Western Sahara Association
22. Australian Workers Union
23. Ballarat Trades & Labour Council
24. Bayside Refugee Advocacy and Support Association
25. Bayswater Asylum Seeker Group
26. Bellarine for Refugees
27. Black Sash Australia
28. Brigidine Asylum Seeker Project
29. Campus Refugee Rights Club, Melbourne University
30. Catholic Alliance for People Seeking Asylum
31. Central Victorian Refugee Support Network
32. CFMEU Construction & General Division Vic/Tas Branch
33. City of Yarra
34. Combined Refugee Action Group Geelong
35. Community and Public Sector Union
36. Diaspora Action Australia
37. Doctors for Refugees
38. Ethnic Communities Council of Victoria
39. Fair Go for Pensioners
40. Freedom Socialist Party
41. Friends of Refugees
42. Geelong Refugee Action and Information Network
43. GetUp!
44. Grandmothers Against Detention of Refugee Children
45. Grandmothers Against the Detention of Refugee Children - Ballarat
46. Grandmothers Against the Detention of Refugee children – Bendigo
47. Greek Ambassadors
48. Hazara Asylum Seekers
49. Hobsons Bay Refugee Network
50. Home Amongst the Gum Trees
51. Humanist Society of Victoria Inc.
52. Islamic Council of Victoria
53. Jesuit Social Services
54. Jews For Refugees
55. Kindred
56. Kommonground
57. Labor For Refugees
58. Law Students for Refugees
59. Liberty Victoria
60. Love Makes A Way Victoria
61. Melbourne Catholic & Migrant Refugee Office
62. Melbourne City Churches In Action (MCCIA
63. Melbourne United Eritrean Community
64. Mission to Seafarers
65. Missionary Sisters of Service
66. Mornington Peninsula Human Rights Group
67. Mums For Refugees
68. National Tertiary Education Union
69. National Union of Workers
70. Office for Justice and Peace, Cardinal Knox Centre
71. Pax Christi Victoria
72. People for Human Rights and Equality
73. Philippines Australia Solidarity Association
74. Radical Women
75. Refugee Action Collective
76. Rural Australians for Refugees
77. Rural Australians for Refugees - Aireys Inlet
78. Rural Australians for Refugees - Apollo Bay
79. Rural Australians for Refugees - Ballarat
80. Rural Australians for Refugees - Bendigo
81. Rural Australians for Refugees - Daylesford
82. Rural Australians for Refugees - Grampians/Gariwerd
83. Rural Australians for Refugees - Macedon Ranges
84. Rural Australians for Refugees Mansfield
85. Rural Australians for Refugees - Queenscliff
86. Rural Australians for Refugees - South Gippsland
87. Rural Australians for Refugees - Surf Coast
88. Rural Australians for Refugees - Warrnambool
89. Salvation Army (Australian Southern Territory)
90. Shamama Association of Australia Inc:
91. Socialist Alliance
92. Socialist Alternative
93. Solidarity
94. Spring Creek Community House
95. St Paul’s Cathedral Melbourne
96. Syrians for Freedom
97. Teachers for Refugees
98. Textile Clothing and Footwear Union of Australia
99. The Australian Greens Victoria
100. 3CR
101. United Voice
102. Uniting Church in Australia Synod of Victoria and Tasmania
103. University of Melbourne Student Union
104. Victorian Afghan Associations Network
105. Victorian Allied Health Professionals Association
106. Victorian Council of Churches
107. Victorian Immigrant and Refugee Women's Coalition
108. Victorian Trades Hall Council
109. We Care Nauru
110. Welcome to Australia
111. West Welcome Wagon
112. Wesley Mission Victoria "

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
First Dog:



Kittens:

AgentF
May 11, 2009
:words: hopefully also the last dog

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Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe

AgentF posted:

:words: hopefully also the last dog
There will never be a last dog. Even if First Dog on the Moon dies, I shall create them myself by carefully clipping out his illustrations and rearranging them to create new comics, complete with fresh words to describe the events of the day.

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