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be nice wicka posted:silverstone is probably the most overrated sports venue in the world I don't have enough knowledge about other venues, but it is an absolutely snooze of a race track.
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Good.. this explains a lot about shiity Pharma http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...er-9047437.html
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In my manic late night googling looking for trap speeds in Melbourne, I failed. Anyone got a handy link for who the slowest fuckers are?
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Mar 20, 2016 00:47
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Contact the Victorian police. The fuckers can't help themselves
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Terminus Est posted:In my manic late night googling looking for trap speeds in Melbourne, I failed. Anyone got a handy link for who the slowest fuckers are? http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-championship/season-2016/event-timing-information-5 Go hog wild
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Norns posted:I need this race to be good Me too. I can't believe I'm staying up to watch it
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Hopefully: The new start/clutch rules will create far less predictable starts and it won't be a Merc 1-2 after the first corner The warmer temps help Ferrari switch on the tyres The new radio rules end the 'death by spreadsheet' over-optimised races problem and we some real differences in how well different drivers manage their races.
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none of these new rules will change anything positively because they are all half-assed attempts at fixing a problem no one genuinely wants to fix
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the only thing that needs fixing is getting rid of hybrid engines, I want V8 - V10 - V12 glory. And the new qualifying format fails to excite me.
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Fat Jesus posted:the only thing that needs fixing is getting rid of hybrid engines, I want V8 - V10 - V12 glory. And the new qualifying format fails to excite me. Wrong
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Fat Jesus posted:the only thing that needs fixing is getting rid of hybrid engines, I want V8 - V10 - V12 glory. And the new qualifying format fails to excite me. i will never understand a thought process so obviously wrong as this
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Mar 20, 2016 01:48
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darth cookie posted:Contact the Victorian police. The fuckers can't help themselves 
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darth cookie posted:Contact the Victorian police. The fuckers can't help themselves Honestly wouldn't suprise me if they did. Any other goons in GA today?
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So, some people like a quieter, greener, slower F1 with a dose of RNG? as in they prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-vVrH37Bq0 to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbXc4_H4Cc ? also for non-australians not watching the day-long telecast, they're talking about how all the team principals are having a meeting now to demand CHANGES be made. what the changes they want made isn't known.
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be nice wicka posted:i will never understand a thought process so obviously wrong as this Motorsport is based on spectacle. That is why people watch.
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Bring back the Glen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18NUC7-TPe8
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Norns posted:I need this race to be good Verstappen will save us.
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Alain Post posted:Motorsport is based on spectacle. That is why people watch. they can't watch what doesn't exist
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honestly dude i know for a fact you are not that stupid. f1 is a backwater, irrelevant racing series if it moves backward and re-adopts V8/10/12s. it's just loving obvious. no one invests money into that any more. period. not happening.
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Eeeeh. Sure its a pipe dream to think that the engine manufacturers would turn around and go "gently caress it, lets make some v12 thunderers and be damned with the cost, we're going to make the craziest motherfucking spectacle on Earth." But its nice to hope. Sure its unlikely as hell that that sort of thing can happen, but then consider that the America's cup exists.
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darth cookie posted:but then consider that the America's cup exists. a comically niche sailing race supported exclusively by crazy billionaires is relevant to this discussion how?
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123362/qualifying-to-revert-to-old-format Quali reverting to last year's system from Bahrain onwards. I'm surprised they went with this and didn't come up with any dumb ways to "improve" the knockout system.
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be nice wicka posted:a comically niche sailing race supported exclusively by crazy billionaires is relevant to this discussion how? I was kind of alluding to the possibility of F1 becoming a car racing series supported by crazy billionaires, which might be the way F1 can be a nuts series with engines that have no road relevance development requirement. I'm not saying that it will happen, just that its one conceivable way that F1 becomes the mad fantasy series some people want. 
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darth cookie posted:I was kind of alluding to the possibility of F1 becoming a car racing series supported by crazy billionaires, which might be the way F1 can be a nuts series with engines that have no road relevance development requirement. I'm not saying that it will happen, just that its one conceivable way that F1 becomes the mad fantasy series some people want. i don't think a series that most people don't know exists is what those people envision when they suggest going back to V12s. i think that, for the most part, they are naive and do not understand the reasons why we've moved beyond such engines. nor do i think most of them ever even watched the F1 they fondly "remember," much like how idiots hold the early 00s in such high praise because they look back on how fast the cars were, despite that being one of the worst ever eras of F1.
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So if you think F1 should move with the times and adopt tech that will be applied to cars in the future you won't have trouble with them eventually getting rid of drivers, right?
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Fat Jesus posted:So if you think F1 should move with the times and adopt tech that will be applied to cars in the future you won't have trouble with them eventually getting rid of drivers, right? good post, Intentionally Obtuse Guy
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be nice wicka posted:i don't think a series that most people don't know exists is what those people envision when they suggest going back to V12s. i think that, for the most part, they are naive and do not understand the reasons why we've moved beyond such engines. nor do i think most of them ever even watched the F1 they fondly "remember," much like how idiots hold the early 00s in such high praise because they look back on how fast the cars were, despite that being one of the worst ever eras of F1. the only reason why this engine format was even adopted was due to renault thinking they could be even more dominant if the rules went towards their past expertise also, NA engines can exist together with the turbocharged cars Triple A fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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Triple A posted:the only reason why this engine format was even adopted was due to renault thinking they could be even more dominant if the rules went towards their past expertise lol no, it was adopted because ALL of the engine manufacturers wanted it because they knew it was the only way to justify their long-term involvement to their boards. and seeing honda rejoin and renault double down should prove they were right.
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Triple A posted:also, NA engines can exist together with the turbocharged cars they can, except that non-turbo, non-hybrid engines are inherently simpler and cheaper than the current power units, so a formula that allows both to compete undermines the investment all of the car manufacturers have made in the sport this isn't rocket science. stop trying to work backwards from your poo poo opinions and just look at the drat facts. wicka fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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allowing backmarkers and midfield to use cheaper and less complex engines is somehow undermining this sport? also, if you are so concerned about it undermining it go increase the amount of fuel the turbo spec can use by a little bit and re-allow for straight 4 configs as well thus, you get more peak power for the turbo cars and allow the financially strapped teams to save costs all while appeasing the whiners about noise
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Triple A posted:allowing backmarkers and midfield to use cheaper and less complex engines is somehow undermining this sport? also, if you are so concerned about it undermining it go increase the amount of fuel the turbo spec can use by a little bit and re-allow for straight 4 configs as well Explain to me what confused you about my post.
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be nice wicka posted:Explain to me what confused you about my post. are you Jean Todt by any chance?
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Sort of sad that they are already abandoning the qualifying change because the first session was pretty fun imo and I was enjoying figuring out which teams didn't actually read the rules and/or were not able to perform basic math.
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Triple A posted:are you Jean Todt by any chance? Seriously, what didn't you understand? F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport. Being the best requires money. Right now, most of that money is provided by car manufacturers. They are here because of an engine formula THEY wanted. You allow a cheap engine formula that competes with them directly, they leave, where does the money come from? THIS is what I'm loving talking about, dude. You people haven't taken one motherfucking second to wrap your heads around The Real World In Which We All Live. You just want loud engines and consequently bend over backwards trying to create stupid loving justifications for bringing your big vroom vroom noises back. Grow up.
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Wicka you are arguing with someone who twice used the phrase "greenwashing" in all seriousness. Old Russian saying "arguing with him is like teaching pig to dance, it frustrates you and annoys pig"
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learnincurve posted:Wicka you are arguing with someone who twice used the phrase "greenwashing" in all seriousness. Old Russian saying "arguing with him is like teaching pig to dance, it frustrates you and annoys pig" ain't nothing in the rule book says a pig can't dance
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