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Keith Stack posted:Please post the full version of this clearly pornographic hot dog gif. Ha! that's all there is I swear.
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So I have an update of where my drawing skill is at. I originally posted this image of an animation project I was working on and was told that it looked horrible and that I should take lessons at drawabox.com Anyway I've been doing this lessons for a month now and here is my progress. Here are two pages of characters I drew. Well technically four as the one to the left is the same character. I'd also like to add that the page wasn't straight when taking the picture so it may make things look off on the left page (the ball is actually round for example). Here is one page of the lesson I am currently working on in Draw A Box. It's only the first page of like ten though. How's my improvement been? Have I improved at all?
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Mar 2, 2016 21:49
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use a pencil! and don't just draw outlines, flesh out the forms with light and shadow
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Mar 2, 2016 23:56
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Yeah, you've got to construct those characters before just drawing the outlines.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:59
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So I assume I'm doing bad.  FunkyAl posted:use a pencil! and don't just draw outlines, flesh out the forms with light and shadow Draw a Box said don't use pencil and start with pen.
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Mar 3, 2016 00:39
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In my experience drawing with a pen can be useful for quick gestures, but for learning to draw with structure, pencil is best. And if you get serious about color, learning with pastels is good because it's one of the hardest mediums, basically pure pigment, so after that everything else seems easier. Look at this guy's thread for how to go from a rookie to pro level, and what exercises he did and the dedication it takes. http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/870-Journey-of-an-Absolute-Rookie-Paintings-and-Sketches If you follow his method, you can see this kind of improvement: 
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Mar 3, 2016 01:24
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On my way to steal ur girl
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Mar 3, 2016 01:28
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Here's my favorite Digimon, the Lucky Chinese Cat: SRM posted:On my way to steal ur girl I like those floppy whiskers, but how did he close the fridge door like that?
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Mar 3, 2016 01:47
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Ccs posted:In my experience drawing with a pen can be useful for quick gestures, but for learning to draw with structure, pencil is best. And if you get serious about color, learning with pastels is good because it's one of the hardest mediums, basically pure pigment, so after that everything else seems easier. While that is impressive my goal here isn't to go photorealistic. Just to get reasonable enough so my cartoon doesn't look like rear end. :P Anyway I was just curious to how you guys thought I was progressing. I assume bad from your comments?
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I assume I'm doing bad. I mean if that's The Program then there's no harm in using pen toward completing the tasks laid out for you b-uuu-uuu-uut You should also look outside the immediate demands of any given specific, step-by step thing if you're trying to hone yr craft. I'm not sure what the draw a box program actually is, but if it would do you good to look at all sorts of different, fundamental techniques in order to create a good and solid baseline that you can grow and explore from. Your drawings look like they're improving, keep up what you're doing, but also broaden your horizons a little i guess. And for your own sake, please do not make your main source of feedback a bunch of randos on a long-irrelevant internet comedy internet forum subforum. Ask your friends, post it on social media, take a class, develop your own eye and use common sense. You can learn from the people here but ultimately that other stuff is going to reap more valuable dividends
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FunkyAl posted:I mean if that's The Program then there's no harm in using pen toward completing the tasks laid out for you People sometimes like giving pen assignments because it gets people away from the eraser and forces them to commit to the lines they make. Honestly either pencil or pen is fine. I love charcoal personally (it's a great gateway to painting) but I don't honestly think it matters which one you use. As has been mentioned, there's lots of ways to progress. The important thing is just to put in time. I agree 100% with FunkyAl in not taking any one particular thing as gospel, but definitely give various techniques/programs a shot if you like. Only thing I'd strongly suggest is try drawing from life if possible. Like maybe every other drawing or every three or whatever, just include at least some. This can be drawing from a model at a class or art center or just drawing your pet or an apple or a crumpled up piece of paper. Use any kind of method for measuring, showing form, whatever. Don't even worry about whether your work is at some threshold of good or bad, that's a waste of energy at the start. Learning comes first. Just draw stuff for right now, get a feel for the materials you are working with, think and make observations, read a book, watch a video, etc. Take your time and explore and keep at it.
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Mar 3, 2016 05:18
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Keith Stack posted:I like those floppy whiskers, but how did he close the fridge door like that? Cat magic.
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Mar 3, 2016 15:50
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Feeling colourful, and skullish as well but mostly colourful.....
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Mar 14, 2016 21:46
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Clip Studio Paint finally got animation tools so I've been playing around with that I'm contemplating upgrading to EX so I can have unlimited frames to work with.
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Mar 18, 2016 13:56
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nikochansan posted:Clip Studio Paint finally got animation tools so I've been playing around with that
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Mar 18, 2016 18:12
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neonnoodle posted:WHAT They just quietly dropped it out the other day as part of a version update like it was no big deal at all, it's pretty great 
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Mar 18, 2016 22:22
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In addition to now being relevant in this thread, Clip Studio Paint is also currently on sale for 60% off, with the Pro version for  It's a really good program for drawing and comics as well, so people should probably check it out
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Indigo Cephalopods posted:In addition to now being relevant in this thread, Clip Studio Paint is also currently on sale for 60% off, with the Pro version for Yeah I'd been using Manga Studio 5 for over a year now and they announced that update and how they were just merging the two programs since they're literally the same program with different names. If you own Manga Studio 5, you can use your serial from that to register the new version of CSP. As a note, CSP Pro is limited to 24 frames total, while EX is unlimited. As far as other version differences go, I'm not sure.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:47
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Oh man apparently you can animate in vector? That's what's really got me interested. It would be like a cheap version of toon boom.
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Mar 20, 2016 03:08
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This program is being made open source and free: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tech/toonz-software-used-studio-ghibli-futurama-made-free-open-source-138111.html It looks on the same level as Toon Boom (node editors, rigging tools) and has been used in more intense production environments than many of the other pro 2D softwares. This could be a major advantage for small 2D studios, as Toon Boom is kinda pricey and annoying for working with freelancers because Toon Boom Harmony doesn't play nice with the stand-alone packages that freelancers can afford.
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nikochansan posted:Clip Studio Paint finally got animation tools so I've been playing around with that holy poo poo photoshop pressure sensitivity broke for me so i haven't been able to animate easily, this is a godsend there goes $90 thank you thread, i would have missed this e: also your lil bubblegum is real cute btw
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Ccs posted:This program is being made open source and free: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tech/toonz-software-used-studio-ghibli-futurama-made-free-open-source-138111.html I was just about to post about this, it seems like stuff keeps getting better and better for animators lately
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Mar 20, 2016 06:27
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Adobe will respond by raising the price of CC
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Anyone know if there's a way to keybind something to the arrow keys in Clip Studio? I'm trying to select next/previous cel with that but it isn't registering 
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 The 24 frame limit on CSP Pro is really getting to me, but it's interesting to try and work within that limit
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http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tech/toonz-software-used-studio-ghibli-futurama-made-free-open-source-138111.htmlquote:Toonz Software Used by Studio Ghibli and ‘Futurama’ Being Made Free and Open Source 
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https://opentoonz.github.io/e/index.html it's out!
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Mar 26, 2016 20:24
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Mar 26, 2016 20:27
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I'm just playing around with this here, and it seems pretty obvious to me that this is not really that useful to anyone who doesn't already have a pretty well-built studio infrastructure. This is not for beginners. It also doesn't appear to have raster brush capabilities, so no there's no doing your rough animation directly in the program. This makes sense because in Japan they still do all the roughs on paper. I suppose it's not any worse than Flash in that regard, but the interface is WAY too professional for your average person to just jump in and start animating the way you can in Flash. I'm not switching from TVPaint anytime soon...
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yeah it took me like 10 minutes to even figure out how to get the brush toolbar  since it's open source it wouldn't surprise me if we eventually see this getting a whole lot more accessible, but in the immediate future, if all the "how do I do anything" posts I'm seeing on twitter/tumblr/the official google group for it are any indication, I don't see this being the paradigm shift for animation like a lot of people were predicting.
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It seems like everyone got so freaking excited because of the Ghibli connection that a lot of people assumed that this software was something other than a complex ink-and-paint and compositing system built on a traditional X-sheet workflow. It's probably similar to what Disney used in the latter days of its 2D pipeline (though Calarts trains people on TVPaint now and ToonBoom is widely used in the TV industry). I bet people were expecting something in the interface vicinity of Flash/Photoshop/TB/Manga Studio.
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How popular this becomes all depends how strong the open source community is for the program. I'm sure there are some hungry coders out there willing to simplify the interface.
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Yeah I was definitely disappointed when I found out this thing was more of a compositing and inking tool than something a normal human being can use.
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So turns out there is raster drawing in it; go to preferences -> drawing and set the level type. I'm still not ready to give up on this, TVpaint is well out of my price range so it'd be nice if there's a really good alternative. I'm pretty sure both of Takahata's newest works- My Neighbors the Yamadas and Princess Kaguya were both all-digital too, presumably in this program? So there is a precedent to it even though the conventional Miyazaki-style Ghibli most people are familiar with is still predominantly drawn by hand.
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Here's a tip about fixing the OpenToonz interface to be a bit more humane: http://www.tvpaint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=91221#p91221 Oop, and some tutorial videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMskd30Y9Js https://vimeo.com/160517233 neonnoodle fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Mar 27, 2016 22:48
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Is it true that 3D is less time consuming and costly to make a cartoon with than 2D?
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Not really. In studio terms, it's just as expensive if not more. The advantages lie in: perfectly consistent characters without having to worry about draftsmanship; easier to make changes and move the camera or reuse assets; easier to do complex stuff like highly detailed character designs or crowd scenes.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is it true that 3D is less time consuming and costly to make a cartoon with than 2D? Costs more for initial assets but it saves tons of money by merit of being able to be recycled
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