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Guiness13
Feb 17, 2007

The best angel of all.

Epic High Five posted:

will he stop talking about his mightily slightly smaller than large-size hands?

Trump just released a new statement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-OpTHixpU

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A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
I for one welcome the next 8 months of Boosted poll unskewing.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Photo of Donald Trump at WaPo today

AllanGordon
Jan 26, 2010

by Shine

rear end cobra posted:

You're so commited to the honest truth about the rich orange man who keeps lying about pretty much everything and who spends days each year at Fortune hq trying to convince them that he's worth double their estimates.

My big problem with the argument is that there have been many stock market crashes and ponzi type schemes so it's not guaranteed at all that Trump would be worth $10 billion now or w/e if he invested however many hundreds of millions he inherited when his dad died in 99.

RedQueen
Apr 21, 2007

It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place.

Boosted_C5 posted:

I'm not going to wait for the numbers, and I wouldn't look them up if they were available now, but I'm pretty sure something like 25x the number of people watched WWE Monday Night Raw this evening vs. AIPAC speeches.

This is the most Trump argument and I love it

AllanGordon
Jan 26, 2010

by Shine
Also rip The Saurus. Cut down just trying to help a bud pop some pills.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

wow that thread he was posting in was depressing

loving brits

whenever you people get probated i just dont get it. just chill yall

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Top Bunk Wanker posted:

Going by the posts here, he was terrible, low energy, etc. Going by the posts on the Donald Trump subreddit, he started with an apathetic crowd and proceeded to get 10+ separate standing ovations during his speech.

Looks like the truth is somewhere.....



On Reddit.com where jokes aren't illegal

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
Is it wrong that, even now, I can't help but like Donald Trump? I'd almost certainly never vote for the man, but I just can't help but grin ear to ear every time he's on the news.

It's impressive that a person can inspire joy and dread in me at the same time. That's amazing versatility.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

RedQueen posted:

This is the most Trump argument and I love it

Boosted: Trump
Joementum: Kasich
MIGF: Cruz
Computer Parts: Carson
The Saurus: Rubio

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
My friend has a theory on why Trump eats pizza with knife and fork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_bE7g2wqM

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
to be fair to trump re: index funds. parking a million bucks in index funds and watching them grow is the most sniveling cop out way to make money. at least trump did something to earn that money even if he managed it poorly

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

this at least is on the money

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

That really is the most /pol/ thing I have ever seen.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Did someone just insinuate that I'm a winner? Awesome!

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
The Saurus is gone (for selling opiates????), that means the only unbanned person left with a Trump avatar is Top Bunk Wanker.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Jewel Repetition posted:

The Saurus is gone (for selling opiates????), that means the only unbanned person left with a Trump avatar is Top Bunk Wanker.

But is it a coincidence, a conspiracy, or just this?

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Epic High Five posted:

i just love the fact that if you're a reporter and call the campaign for any information or clarification, there's nobody to be directed to. the whole campaign is just like 100 mooks who have no idea what's going on, and there's even a chance you'll get Trump himself using a fake name to blow you off

I got through to Trump over the summer, called as soon as his number was posted. Dude is an idiot over the phone.

AllanGordon
Jan 26, 2010

by Shine

Jewel Repetition posted:

The Saurus is gone (for selling opiates????), that means the only unbanned person left with a Trump avatar is Top Bunk Wanker.

He was offering the opiates for free because he loves his fellow man.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Jewel Repetition posted:

The Saurus is gone (for selling opiates????), that means the only unbanned person left with a Trump avatar is Top Bunk Wanker.

wait, what?

I thought The Saurus was an immigrant?

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

AllanGordon posted:

He was offering the opiates for free because he loves his fellow man.

:patriot:

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

AllanGordon posted:

He was offering the opiates for free because he loves his fellow man.

if the saurs isn't going to respect THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY then why should i be so mad about illegals

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Jewel Repetition posted:

That really is the most /pol/ thing I have ever seen.

ty i saw that at work and meant to watch it yet i forgot

googling the lyrics do the protomen know that they composed the horst wessel lied of the 21st century
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/the-protomen
are they in on this

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

sarmhan posted:

If you are wondering, Hillary has actually been gaining on Trump in polls. Today's CNN/ORC and CBS/NYT polls have Hillary up 12 and 10 points in the GE, respectively.

all RV polls recently though, which tend to overstate Ds but who knows what the gently caress actual likely voters will look like this year

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

oystertoadfish posted:

ty i saw that at work and meant to watch it yet i forgot

googling the lyrics do the protomen know that they composed the horst wessel lied of the 21st century
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/the-protomen
are they in on this

of course nintendocore is a music genre

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

apparently theyre from middle tennessee st i hope the protomen are college basketball fans

it was nice of them to beat michigan st at least i know that uva wont get knocked out by michigan state again

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 217 days!

Patter Song posted:

Is it wrong that, even now, I can't help but like Donald Trump? I'd almost certainly never vote for the man, but I just can't help but grin ear to ear every time he's on the news.

It's impressive that a person can inspire joy and dread in me at the same time. That's amazing versatility.

I think the whole world understands the concept of feeling trapped in an abusive relationship with Donald Trump to some extent, or will soon.

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

Jewel Repetition posted:

That really is the most /pol/ thing I have ever seen.

God drat I can't wait to feast on those /pol/ tears on election day. :getin:

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN
the advantage is the best video game bleep blop band

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Bullfrog posted:

God drat I can't wait to feast on those /pol/ tears on election day. :getin:

I'm hoping they come up with lots of conspiracy theories for Trump's loss, along with lamentations for "western civilization" and implausible threats. But there's always a chance they'll go completely silent and pretend nothing happened since that's how they react sometimes to losses.

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
High atop his tower of Orthanc in downtown Houston, Lord Crooze stands brooding. His face is hooded and cloaked.

His two chief lieutenants, the goblins Squatpiss and Ratfuck, address him. "We have found the boy, my lord."

A slow smile spreads across Crooze's face. "And the angel? Moroni?"

"He has made contact, sire," Squatpiss growls. "Your orders?"

"Proceed with the Plan," Crooze says. He gazes out over the twilight world. "Utah is mine ."

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

quadrophrenic posted:

the advantage is the best video game bleep blop band

Anamanaguchi might be if you're counting just the period of time they were making the Scott Pilgrim OST.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Jewel Repetition posted:

That really is the most /pol/ thing I have ever seen.

what the gently caress was that

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Jewel Repetition posted:

Anamanaguchi might be if you're counting just the period of time they were making the Scott Pilgrim OST.

yeah but who are they endorsing

AllanGordon
Jan 26, 2010

by Shine

Jewel Repetition posted:

I'm hoping they come up with lots of conspiracy theories for Trump's loss, along with lamentations for "western civilization" and implausible threats. But there's always a chance they'll go completely silent and pretend nothing happened since that's how they react sometimes to losses.

The conspiracy theories are a matter of course but from what I've seen in the alt-right they're okay with Trump losing since he has at least shifted the discussion into topics that were previously verbotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYxQNYsC2bw

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
buncha dudes thinkin theyre Charles the Hammer at Tours because they didnt hold a door for a guy with a tan/beard

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

paranoid randroid posted:

buncha dudes thinkin theyre Charles the Hammer at Tours because they didnt hold a door for a guy with a tan/beard

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
The border guard is brought before The Donald.

"The terrorists......the drug gangs..." he mutters, "Isis...they're coming..."

The Lion Guard shove his neck onto the stump. The bedraggled man looks up at Trump. "I've seen them. Illegals. Cartels. People need to know."

Trump gives a short nod. "In the name of Emperor Barack, Lord of the Founders and the First People, Keeper of the Fifty States and Protector of the Realm, I Donald, of the House Trump, Lord of New York and Warden of the North, sentence you to die. I will tell you."

Eric Trump puts a hand on Barron's shoulder. "Do not look away. Father will know if you do." Barron nods solemnly.

The Donald swings the sword of Chang. "You did well," Eric says.

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

paranoid randroid posted:

uh yeah this is Mr... Pmurt. from... someplace far away. look, shut up. gently caress off. *click*

For those who don't know, this has been literally true many times. For much of the 80s, Trump spoke to the media as "John Barron" or sometimes "John Miller".

quote:

The year was 1984, and Donald J. Trump had already made a name for himself.

Just a few years earlier, the son of a wealthy outer-borough real estate developer stunned New York with the Grand Hyatt Hotel deal, in which he'd snatched up an unprecedented 40-year tax break from a city on the brink of bankruptcy. Then, he built Trump Tower. Ignoring his father's advice, he had ventured deep into the world of Manhattan real estate—a world he would dominate for years to come. And now, his eyes were set on a new property: Trump Castle.

As New York Magazine described it, Trump's vision came "complete with spires, drawbridge, and [a] moat"—a legit fortress on Madison Avenue and 59th Street; something only The Donald could conjure up. His competitors labeled the idea "lunacy," and eventually, it turned out they were right: the cost of the development spiraled out of control, climbing upwards of $135 million, and Prudential Insurance, Trump's partner on the project, decided to walk.

Before breaking ground, Trump's castle had crumbled. (He would christen an Atlantic City casino with the name the following year.) In the cutthroat world of Manhattan real estate, it was considered a big loss for the mogul. Trump had tried, and failed, to build a larger-than-life property, and, according to New York, his partner was out $15 million as a result.

But to John Barron, a "Trump spokesperson," that wasn't the case: Selling the property was Trump's idea the whole time, Barron told reporters, making it seem like the real estate mogul had never even wanted the drat castle in the first place, and was happy to see it go: "It sure is easier to get a large commission on a $105-million sale than to put up a building," Barron told New York at the time. Contrary to the public's perception, Trump actually left the bruising battle victorious—at least according to Trump himself.

Because throughout the 1980s, Donald J. Trump was John Barron—a literal alter ego that allowed Trump to say what he wanted, when he wanted, to the New York City press corps, and the world. Barron was a Trump spokesperson, a Trump representative, and was even quoted once or twice as a Trump executive. Sometimes, it was spelled "Barron," other times, just "Baron." But it was always the same person talking: Trump.

It was the billionaire businessman's first foray into media manipulation, a strategy the Republican presidential frontrunner has mastered, with his Twitter rants, his widely-publicized feuds—with networks, candidates, famous women, the people of Mexico—and his frequent threats against anyone who tries to discredit his personal narrative. By pushing the right buttons, Trump was able to get his story told the way he wanted to tell it. He was—and is—his own spin doctor, beholden to no one but himself.

"John Barron was a way for Trump to talk himself up," said Michael D'Antonio, the author of Never Enough: Donald Trump and the Pursuit of Success, a Trump biography that was rushed to publication this September. "He'd be able to express things that he wanted expressed about himself by someone that wasn't him." In other words, Trump was his own personal cheerleader, like the extras he allegedly hired for his presidential candidacy launch.

According to D'Antonio, the fake spokesperson began to appear in the early 1980s, with the construction of Trump Tower, the mogul's magnum opus on Fifth Avenue. Before demolishing the storied flagship of the now-defunct department store chain Bonwit Teller, Trump promised that he'd donate the cache of valuable artworks inside to the nearby Metropolitan Museum of Art. Then, his company's workers smashed them to pieces.

After an outcry from the art community, a man named John Barron—who, in phone interviews with reporters, vaguely gave his title as a "Trump Organization vice president"—said he spoke on behalf of his boss when he cited costs to construction that outweighed the pieces' value. And besides, Barron argued, they were "without artistic merit" anyway. Though reporters at the time may not have realized it, Americans now will recognize this as quite possibly the most Trumpian response ever.


Over the course of nearly a decade, Trump was quick to dispatch John Barron to share his position on deals with media outlets: "We have no interest whatsoever in Lincoln West," Barron told the New York Times, in response to questions about a Manhattan property in 1984.

In other, more deranged instances, Trump's alter ego emerged as a second spokesperson named "John Miller," who was used to boost his playboy reputation in between the mogul's marriages. "Important beautiful women call him [Trump] all the time," "Miller" told People.

"It was a chance for him to say that Carla Bruni and Madonna were interested in him," D'Antonio explained. "And if you want everyone to think you're a charming, dashing, and beautiful guy, maybe it's handy to have someone on hand who says that." (After listening to a tape of the People interview, Trump's ex-girlfriend at the time, Marla Maples, confirmed that John Miller was, indeed, Trump. Trump and Maples would later get back together, marry, and then divorce.)


To this day, the roots of the name "John Barron" are hazy, at best. Strangely enough, Trump named his third son Barron in 2006, long after he retired the fictional Barron. D'Antonio suggested the name may be a reference to Barron Hilton, the famous hotelier who Trump bought out in Atlantic City ("John Baron," of course, announced that deal). Another Trump biographer, Wayne Barrett, hypothesized that the name could hint at ancestral royalty for Trump, the grandson of German immigrants. "Maybe he thought he actually was a baron," Barrett joked to me.

Having a fake identity, however, does run in the Trump family. As it turns out, years before the advent of John Barron, Donald's father, Fred Trump, would call competing real estate companies in the middle of night, introducing himself as "Mr. Green," to score inside information that might benefit his business. The lie became a well-known "family practice"—a tradition, of sorts—according to Maryanne Trump Barry, Donald's sister.

"It was like 'John Barron' is for Donald," she told the Trump biographer, Gwenda Blair. "A name for an imaginary biographer who is really Donald. My husband says when he's joking that he's going to call and say John Barron's been given a subpoena, and then we'll see how quickly John Barron falls ill and dies."

Ironically, that's kind of what happened.

In 1990, Donald J. Trump took the stand to testify against charges that his company had knowingly employed—and withheld payments from—undocumented Polish workers during construction of the aforementioned Trump Tower. In court, the lawyer for the workers, John Szabo, said that he had received a call from someone who identified himself as "Mr. Baron," who threatened to sue him for $100 million if he didn't drop the lawsuit.

So, after years of secretly hiding behind the pseudonym, Trump finally had to explain himself. He admitted to the court that yes, he and one of his assistants had used the name "John Barron" in business matters. "Lots of people use pen names," he later told a reporter outside of courtroom. "Ernest Hemingway used one."

John Barron died that day. And once Trump settled down with Maples, his second wife, John Miller followed. As quickly as Trump's alter egos had appeared to the press, they disappeared into nothingness. But the groundwork—and the headlines—had been laid, powering Trump's celebrity, and his reality show of a presidential campaign, today. Looking back, John Barron was really just an early exercise for The Donald that America would come to know—a natural extension of Trump's uncanny ability to constantly be seen, including, but not at all limited to, his upcoming role as 'SNL' host. This is a man that has to live in the spotlight, even if he's the one tethering the cords.

"Donald seems, in retrospect, to have engaged in a kind of long con. He uses whatever he thinks he can get away with to manipulate other individuals, the press and country as a whole," D'Antonio writes in his biography. "He understands that the news cycle makes yesterday's statements irrelevant and that reporters prefer a snappy, exciting story to a narrative that is complex and impossible to distill into four words that would be plastered on a tabloid's front page."

"These are the conditions that allow hucksters to thrive," he continues, "which is all fun and amusing until we consider him in the Oval Office."
http://www.vice.com/read/remembering-john-barron-donald-trumps-spokesman-alter-ego-116

"Yes, this is John Miller. I'm sorry I have to keep my remarks brief, Mr. Trump needs my help fending off all these women who want to gently caress him."

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

yeah but who are they endorsing

cats, I think.

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