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This game needs a Rock type that uses stealth rock traps and bolsters its defense as its strategy as a Technical character. Probopass would be perfect for this, and has the benefit of being really cool.
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I'll be recording and putting together some videos based on friendly games if anyone wants to assist with that later today (probably in 4ish hours?), come to the discord also i'm gonna be honest, i forgot all about stances, so that shofu video is really, really cool and explains why a lot of my more recent games went south (eg trying to low counter an overhead from Emalde's stupid dumb smelly weavile)
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Mar 22, 2016 14:36
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mabels big day posted:Probopass... has the benefit of being really cool. You and I seem to have wildly different definitions of the word "cool." Also I don't care about anything else, I just want to see Smeargle added as a fighter throwing out some wildly improbably abilities.
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Mar 22, 2016 14:40
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Is there any kind of a sense of a tier list in this game yet? I'm working through story mode after settling on Machamp , who i seem to jive with, but I wonder if he gets walled out really hard against zoning characters played by real people. That being said, gently caress, Machamp can push poo poo in up close
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Mar 22, 2016 14:48
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Is there any kind of a sense of a tier list in this game yet? I'm working through story mode after settling on Machamp , who i seem to jive with, but I wonder if he gets walled out really hard against zoning characters played by real people. It's somewhat balanced; arguably the best characters include Chandelure, Lucario and Pikachu (Chandelure is king of the fireballs and has excellent punishes at range, i.e. hex / Lucario is an all-around duelist with good poke and excellent combos including an extremely punish-heavy game / Pikachu is strong at all ranges in all phases; he doesn't excel at any of them but he's solid, basically the "ryu" of the game) Machamp is strong for different reasons; he does get zoned pretty heavy, but if the zoner makes a single mistake and Machamp gets in, Bulk-up anything destroys them; I think BU Cross Chop does 200+ damage? It comes out incredibly quick, the start-up for Bulk Up is very short and Cross Chop is almost immediate as well. A good support mon to take with Machamp is Whimsicott, because you get immunity to ranged attacks allowing you to rush in. e: Electrode is good too, its more general purpose but it does affect ranged attacks; you just need to be closer to the opponent then you think, because Explosion only travels so far boy are my arms tired fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 14:59
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One thing I am seeing a lot and cannot figure out is when I am going to grab an enemy then having a red shield effect come up around them and shrugging it off somehow. It isn't the Attack Triangle (they are not attacking) and it isn't a stance thing either (I've seen enemies like Pikachu and Weavile do it). I don't get hit for it but they shrug off the grab and the fight continues. It's like there is some sort of grab counter not covered in the tutorial or something. Can anyone explain it? I haven't found an answer myself and enemies in Iron League seem to be able to pull it off annoyingly often.
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Mar 22, 2016 15:00
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Gaffle posted:Character-wise, just mewtwo and shadow mewtwo, but you can earn coins by playing and spend them on a bunch of stuff to customize your player avatar too lol sounds amaaaaaazing
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Mar 22, 2016 15:01
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Calihan posted:One thing I am seeing a lot and cannot figure out is when I am going to grab an enemy then having a red shield effect come up around them and shrugging it off somehow. It isn't the Attack Triangle (they are not attacking) and it isn't a stance thing either (I've seen enemies like Pikachu and Weavile do it). I don't get hit for it but they shrug off the grab and the fight continues. It's like there is some sort of grab counter not covered in the tutorial or something. i...think thats when you two are grabbing each other; it cancels each other out. its not exactly like tech throws in other games, but i've had it happen repeatedly as well, it might be frame-perfect or near it e: i could be wrong though, idunno, i have grabbed someone grabbing me and either won or lost the grab because i was either early or late
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Mar 22, 2016 15:06
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Having a true flying type Bird Pokemon like Pidgeot or Braviary would be awesome too.
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Mar 22, 2016 15:10
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just a heads up to other new people: do the character-specific training mode and combo-dojo asap i had no idea that pikachu libre had an air dodge AND a follow-up from said air dodge i have yet to face a Braixen player in any form, not in single player or online. weird. she looks fun.
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Mar 22, 2016 15:21
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:i have yet to face a Braixen player in any form, not in single player or online. weird. she looks fun. theres a ton in ranked, at least for me psyfirecracker is a very, very deceptive and annoying move because it looks like its not gonna reach and then it does
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Mar 22, 2016 15:23
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:i have yet to face a Braixen player in any form, not in single player or online. weird. she looks fun. once you do, you'll wish you hadn't. she's a huge pain in the rear end to fight.
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Mar 22, 2016 15:45
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Rafza posted:i...think thats when you two are grabbing each other; it cancels each other out. its not exactly like tech throws in other games, but i've had it happen repeatedly as well, it might be frame-perfect or near it I tried throw teching a bunch when I played this at locals when I knew the other guy was gonna throw me, and it seemed like throw teching wasn't a thing. Or at least, the time you had was ridiculously shorter than normal Fighting Game tech times, which wouldn't make sense. I've seen something like this before, but I always figured that maybe the opponent just did some attack that whiffed. The attack dodges the throw which is why the red barrier comes up, but because the attack whiffs you don't see anything happen. Honestly, it's hard to say since when it does happen, the red barrier almost completely covers the opponent so it's hard to see what exactly is going on. Oxygen Deficiency posted:
I'm currently playing Braixen, she is pretty cool and fun, yeah.
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Mar 22, 2016 15:52
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Ventana posted:I tried throw teching a bunch when I played this at locals when I knew the other guy was gonna throw me, and it seemed like throw teching wasn't a thing. Or at least, the time you had was ridiculously shorter than normal Fighting Game tech times, which wouldn't make sense. yeah idunno, might need to ask shofu or someone who's been following the game longer when i get home i'll start trying to recreate it in training mode
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Mar 22, 2016 16:03
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Probably the weirdest thing to me about it is, if it WAS a throw tech...wouldn't it be a green aura? That would make the most sense, since the game likes to use Green for throws, Blue for Counter attacks, Red for attacks, so you'd think something related to throws would also be green.
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Mar 22, 2016 16:36
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That stances video posted earlier shows it. The red aura is from the built in resistance to a particular type of move based on stance. Charizard's high guard stance is a block of this type.
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Mar 22, 2016 16:40
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SilverSupernova posted:You and I seem to have wildly different definitions of the word "cool." No kidding. Why anyone would want to watch the Ron Jeremy of pokemon waggling around his useless stony appendages is beyond me
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Mar 22, 2016 16:51
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I have literally never played a fighting game except some button mashing in Soul Caliber 4 and years of having no idea what I'm doing in Smash, but I picked up Pokken the other day and have been kicking the CPU's butt with Suicune (which I'm assuming is not hard at all). Shadow Mewtwo pushed my poo poo in though, and I'm kinda afraid to go online. What if my beautiful sparkledog gets hurt?? 
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Mar 22, 2016 16:56
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Rose Spirit posted:I have literally never played a fighting game except some button mashing in Soul Caliber 4 and years of having no idea what I'm doing in Smash, but I picked up Pokken the other day and have been kicking the CPU's butt with Suicune (which I'm assuming is not hard at all). Shadow Mewtwo pushed my poo poo in though, and I'm kinda afraid to go online. What if my beautiful sparkledog gets hurt?? heres how to play suicune online, based on my matches against it spam ranged garbage in field mode spam ranged garbage in duel mode, if they get close hit them with your antiair and juggle them infinitely until it switches to field go to step 1 congratulations you win!!!! but if you dont win, you weren't spamming ranged garbage enough im sure there's actual suicune advice somewhere but i definitely do not play it
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Mar 22, 2016 17:06
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mabels big day posted:Having a true flying type Bird Pokemon like Pidgeot or Braviary would be awesome too. Hawlucha
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Mar 22, 2016 17:35
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So I keep on hearing people describing S.Mewtwo as a glass cannon, but I've not really heard much about the cannon bit of that, just how he can't take a hit. What are his strengths? He looks like a really cool character so I'm rather interested.
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i haven't looked too hard at him but he's a technical type so he probably has low hp, and i could swear that when i fight him online he actually spends hp when using some of his moves. also his burst hits the entire field or close to it.
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everythingWasBees posted:So I keep on hearing people describing S.Mewtwo as a glass cannon, but I've not really heard much about the cannon bit of that, just how he can't take a hit. What are his strengths? He looks like a really cool character so I'm rather interested. He is an insane projectile character, virtually filling the entire arena perpetually with bullshit (which he can remote control and redirect almost at whim for free), and has a lot of the same "gently caress off this isn't even fair" counter properties regular Mewtwo has. His burst is also completely full screen and even picks up out of the air a bit (just high enough to catch levitating chand/geng)
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speaking of bursts, can you break through gengar's burst with a normal attack, since it's considered a grab? or do you just have to start jumping around like a crazy person every time he pops synergy?
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Inflammatory posted:speaking of bursts, can you break through gengar's burst with a normal attack, since it's considered a grab? or do you just have to start jumping around like a crazy person every time he pops synergy? if a burst is active already (tested with chand and blaziken, at least, not sure about others) if gengar's attempt to burst in response, they will lose the trade i do not know if you can just punch him, i think bursts get some armor/iframes on startup...but i've been knocked out of burst a lot so idk
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Mar 22, 2016 17:58
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The GIG posted:Everyone remembers it because it was funny and memorable and the company themselves produce plush toys and other stuff based on it. Well I think it looks bad and everyone should feel bad for liking it. Hot ditto takes.
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Inflammatory posted:speaking of bursts, can you break through gengar's burst with a normal attack, since it's considered a grab? or do you just have to start jumping around like a crazy person every time he pops synergy? I just watched a video where a dude jumped after the startup animation of the burst, and got out of it, so...
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Mar 22, 2016 18:33
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Anybody else running into a bunch of Braixen players with lag switches in ranked mode? There will be a heavy amount of lag at the beginning of the match while they spam projectiles, then after about 30 seconds the latency will be normal, then between rounds imagine they press the switch again cause it'll be extremely laggy at the beginning of the next round. Chandalure, Braixen, and Gardivoire all feel fair to fight as Machamp, but gently caress s Suicunes that only spam two attacks.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:10
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The Kingfish posted:Hawlucha people keep asking for this and i think hawlucha's overrated and pikachu libre turned out better than hawlucha could have with the same gimmick.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:13
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Broseph Brostar posted:Anybody else running into a bunch of Braixen players with lag switches in ranked mode? There will be a heavy amount of lag at the beginning of the match while they spam projectiles, then after about 30 seconds the latency will be normal, then between rounds imagine they press the switch again cause it'll be extremely laggy at the beginning of the next round. I'm noticing it a lot with braixens online too. I figured it was part of their gameplan.
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So shadow Mewtwo has a infinite. Backwards Y then enhance it with Miracle Eye repeat. If they're blocking they can't lower their shield anymore and they're just stuck eating it forever. That's literally it. It drains you to 1hp as well but due to how the game works on %'s instead of exact numbers it'll always give him the win away.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:34
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So shadow Mewtwo has a infinite. does it not knock you out of duel phase even on shield hit? if not that's...annoying
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Mar 22, 2016 19:51
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The infinite is in field phase by the looks of it
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Dosvidanya posted:The infinite is in field phase by the looks of it ahhhhhhhhhhhahahahahaha gently caress
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mabels big day posted:people keep asking for this and i think hawlucha's overrated and pikachu libre turned out better than hawlucha could have with the same gimmick. Pikachu Libre is an insult.
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mabels big day posted:people keep asking for this and i think hawlucha's overrated and pikachu libre turned out better than hawlucha could have with the same gimmick. Of course the person who thinks Probopass is cool would say something like this.
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It's funny to me that the mascot char(s) of Pikachu and Libre have some of the toughest combos in this entire game in terms of timing. Here's one I was playing with with normal Pikachu just now: f+Y (hold Y), release Y, YX, d+Y cancel d+A [171 damage] For the full effect, the f+Y has to be the blue version you get from pressing forward and Y on the same frame. The X press in the YX string also has to be timed properly for the powered up version, otherwise the combo drops there. Also this only does 9 more damage than the dojo combo of f+Y, f+Y, d+X, d+A, assuming you get the blue version of both f+Y in that one. It's probably worth knowing it exists though because the release Y sends the opponent over and behind you, allowing Pikachu to have an option that might lead to a wallsplat behind him.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:31
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SilverSupernova posted:Of course the person who thinks Probopass is cool would say something like this. Probopass is cool tho I used to wish we had hawlucha instead of libre, but the first time my Machamp got stone cold stunnered by a pikachu an eighth its size my heart was swayed. If they do dlc I wanna see Golurk and Krookodile
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can't fuckin believe the probopass hate itt. if you can say with a straight face that you don't want to see this- -animated in 3D pulling off sick combos, you are basically No Fun
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Pokemon That are cool that should be in Pokken: Hawlucha Marowak Greninja Hitmonchan Hitmonlee Infernape Garbodor Scyther Aerodacty Shedinja Shuckle Probopass can be support
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