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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Just gonna do the classic "apply online every day until i hear something" because I don't even know if my first one went through at this point.

edit: gently caress, well I can only apply once.

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Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It takes time. If you're that concerned about it call your congressman. Expecting the VA to live up to any of their timelines is a recipe for anxiety.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
The butt peeping today set a new record for 2016

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Zeris posted:

The butt peeping today set a new record for 2016

peep all the ivy league butts for me friend

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

holocaust bloopers posted:

peep all the ivy league butts for me friend

so many I couldn't even

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

The 9-11 is pretty instantaneous right? I know I'll have to wait for the vocrehab but if and when I get accepted, I just insert user name and password, say gimme money and I get it towards the end of the month right?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

gently caress I'm still waiting to hear back about my post-9/11. I'm taking this summer off anyway, but god drat it's been over 2 months.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
If it's been longer than 7 weeks you should call them.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Got a class research trip coming up. Teacher gives us some brief guidelines based on some of the stuff that has happened in years past.

1. The hot tub next to the owners house is not for your use. That's why there is a fence around it.
2. Don't take muddy water out of a puddle and pour it on the rocks in the sauna.
3. Don't pee on the rocks in the sauna.

Sounds like a military trip without the inevitable sexual assault.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Did you stand in formation when you were told this?

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Casimir Radon posted:

Sounds like a military trip without the inevitable sexual assault.

Uhh... we are talking about college kids right?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Good point.

Soulex posted:

Did you stand in formation when you were told this?
No but they stuck 20 person class that's supposed to be geared toward discussion in a lecture hall that seats somewhere around 350.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!
Priority registration is so exciting! As the last couple of semesters come up I really need to make sure that I get into these few rare classes, so gently caress millennials, me first.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
do more internships

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Grem posted:

gently caress millennials

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Grem posted:

gently caress millennials

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Vasudus posted:

do more internships

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Another company at my client site just replaced their gopher, who had a BS in Biology. The job is mostly setting up exhibits, manning the stock room for said exhibits and generic, menial office work. It pays roughly 17 bucks an hour, and it's non exempt. It is not a scientific job.

They got 1300 applications over 3 days, of which the majority were in grad school or actually had their graduate degrees. They auto screened out anybody that didn't have a bachelors degree and at least a year of work experience. They ended up getting someone who will have an MPH in May with four years of hospital admin work.

Do more internships.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Vasudus posted:

do more internships

That's how I got my current job

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


For $17/hr. Lmao.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!

Whip Slagcheek posted:

For $17/hr. Lmao.

Right? Safeway cashiers make more than that, STEM is for suckers unless it's the E.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Grem posted:

Right? Safeway cashiers make more than that, STEM is for suckers unless it's the E.

I don't want to shatter your worldview but teachers don't exactly roll in the cash. :ssh:

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

Grem posted:

Right? Safeway cashiers make more than that, STEM is for suckers unless it's the E.

Where

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Grem posted:

Right? Safeway cashiers make more than that, STEM is for suckers unless it's the E.

Good luck getting a decent-paying engineering job after college without a co-op or internship.

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
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psydude posted:

Good luck getting a decent-paying engineering job after college without a co-op or internship.

Not many engineers graduate without at least one of those, though. Internships are integral to any professional program (engineering, business [lol], medicine, law) worth a drat.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
really hope i can grab an unpaid internship this year to fill in the summer between all the time where I spend every week re-wringing out my brain so that hopefully when this is all over i can get an entry level job in my field at 35

gently caress this i'm not signing up for any more classes

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!

Whip Slagcheek posted:

I don't want to shatter your worldview but teachers don't exactly roll in the cash. :ssh:

Better than 17/hr and I don't need no masters either. Luckily disability will boost my income out of the gutter some biologist got a masters to inhabit.

Also according to my Trump-bro Shep my pension will be enough to bankrupt entire states.

Grem fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 29, 2016

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
The thing that cracks me up the most about the whole situation is that it was very, very clearly stated in the posting that this job was not a scientific one, it just said it was for a government health agency in the DoD. It had multiple lines stating that you are not a SME, etc. During the interview they also explained that, in addition to saying that it was most assuredly an hourly office monkey job, that it has literally zero upward mobility and would get a quarter an hour raise per year.

Aside from rooting out the poors, the idea was that if you had a bachelors in ~something~ that you had to take some sort of science classes, so explaining the content of the materials you're exhibiting shouldn't be that hard. That's it.

From what I was told, not a single applicant blinked at it.








dafuq

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
I think I want to learn CAD/CAM and CNC machining stuff. I really hate school and would love to get training in a field that pays well. But I know no one in that industry and have 0 experience.

Still would rather that than a Business Management Information Systems degree. Companies aren't gonna hire my old rear end for entry level jobs and they sure aren't gonna hire me for higher up jobs with no experience and being old.

I'm told there's a severe shortage of qualified CNC guys and dudes doing CAD/CAM though and my age wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as it would be in the white collar world.

I'm not smart enough to be an engineer but machinist seems within reach. I can learn trig.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Grem posted:

Right? Safeway cashiers make more than that, STEM is for suckers unless it's the E.

uhhh my lil brother works at a safeway and i think he makes like 9 or 10 bucks an hour

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners
if you work as a cashier for 20+ years you can make $17/hr.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:

I think I want to learn CAD/CAM and CNC machining stuff. I really hate school and would love to get training in a field that pays well. But I know no one in that industry and have 0 experience.

Still would rather that than a Business Management Information Systems degree. Companies aren't gonna hire my old rear end for entry level jobs and they sure aren't gonna hire me for higher up jobs with no experience and being old.

I'm told there's a severe shortage of qualified CNC guys and dudes doing CAD/CAM though and my age wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as it would be in the white collar world.

I'm not smart enough to be an engineer but machinist seems within reach. I can learn trig.

I have a family member that's been a machinist for like uh, I dunno 50 years or something. He trains new guys all the time - most of them wash out because they can't 1) stay clean 2) don't have two brain cells to rub together or 3) don't want to actually learn

It's a pretty cool profession.

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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Don't set out to be a "CNC machinist" if you want to make any money at all. "CNC machinists" more often than not are actually "operators," which involves a lot of watching tools stir coolant and not much analytical thought. By the nature of their job, CNC operators will dwindle as the robots they are assigned to monitor get better at monitoring themselves. CAD/CAM guys are usually called something different, and those jobs too are getting assigned more to engineers as the machines get vastly more capable and complicated. In my opinion, and I am aware that some people more qualified than me would disagree, the only sustainable machining career after 2020 is in small-lot and custom work, which relies on a broad knowledge base and rewards flexibility. Even for small-lot or one-off work CNC programming and setup is an essential skill*, but that alone won't get you very far.

*There are always exceptions. Most auto shops don't use CNC anything.

e: My opinion may be faintly colored by an aesthetic bias against CNC machining, but I think I gave the question a fair shake here.

Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Mar 29, 2016

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

uhhh my lil brother works at a safeway and i think he makes like 9 or 10 bucks an hour

Oh right I meant Costco oops.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Smart advice considering the earning potential of a STEM degree is unusually low.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Grem posted:

Oh right I meant Costco oops.

i know youre trying to be all smarmy and cunty but youre still wrong





but this ones more relevant to you



;)

Admiral Bosch
Apr 19, 2007
Who is Admiral Aken Bosch, and what is that old scoundrel up to?

at the date posted:

Don't set out to be a "CNC machinist" if you want to make any money at all. "CNC machinists" more often than not are actually "operators," which involves a lot of watching tools stir coolant and not much analytical thought. By the nature of their job, CNC operators will dwindle as the robots they are assigned to monitor get better at monitoring themselves. CAD/CAM guys are usually called something different, and those jobs too are getting assigned more to engineers as the machines get vastly more capable and complicated. In my opinion, and I am aware that some people more qualified than me would disagree, the only sustainable machining career after 2020 is in small-lot and custom work, which relies on a broad knowledge base and rewards flexibility. Even for small-lot or one-off work CNC programming and setup is an essential skill*, but that alone won't get you very far.

*There are always exceptions. Most auto shops don't use CNC anything.

e: My opinion may be faintly colored by an aesthetic bias against CNC machining, but I think I gave the question a fair shake here.

boy i sure hope 1. you're wrong or 2. i have money stacked up for an engineering degree in 10 years

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!
How do you not know the difference between Teacher Assist and Teacher lol

who am I kidding with this derail I'd be at 6 figures by now if I keep on with the PD.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

gently caress that I'm gonna go make 17 bucks an hour at SafewayCostcoTrader Joes

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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Soulex posted:

gently caress that I'm gonna go make 17 bucks an hour at SafewayCostcoTrader JoesWhole Foods

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