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I can't believe that I and Beefstew may control the fate of the Middle East
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I can't believe that I and Beefstew may control the fate of the Middle East These posters are pa... aw, gently caress it.
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Mar 23, 2016 13:01
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See? Once you start worrying about what hypothetical other people think, about how angry or dogmatic they might or might not be, there's no escape. It's nonsense misunderstandings about how angry other people look, stamping on a human face forever, punctuated only by Ishtar references. Instead of bellyaching about how some people might potentially think they're right and you're wrong too hard, we could be discussing internet critics.
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Mar 23, 2016 13:21
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Aren't we all - in a very real sense - internet critics? Makes you think.
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Mar 23, 2016 13:28
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I agree. We have a duty to discuss. For starters, I wrote a post comparing Hitman to James Bond and no-one's called me out on that yet. Someone, anyone, save us from mediocrity and how other people might be dogmatic blah blah ideological purity buzzwords blah, and throw down with a real person (me) about their dumb ideas. I've got diagrams prepared and everything! I drew conspiracy theory red lines on pictures of a 15 year old game! Let's loving idea-joust, people!
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Mar 23, 2016 13:35
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Idea: Bravest is going off on a bizarre and distressing tilt over this BvS situation and is either genuinely incapable of understanding why someone might desire an alternative creative direction, or is just being willfully dense.
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Mar 23, 2016 13:40
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Hbomberguy posted:I agree. We have a duty to discuss. That post was largely non-objectionable though. I mean, you did add SOME conspiracy theory red lines with: quote:It's a fairly accurate allegory for cold war politics. But it's one of your posts so it's had to exist somewhere. I think you went a little far in your analysis of Hitman as a huge grotesque deconstruction of James Bond-esque "license to kill" largely masculine empowerment fantasies, but not overly far. I don't think that angle was (at least was not wholly) intentional. But it's a fairly valid reading of the series that I don't think is (obviously) wrong.
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Mar 23, 2016 13:51
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e: why am i egen arguing about this anymore
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Mar 23, 2016 14:06
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Jsor posted:I think you went a little far in your analysis of Hitman as a huge grotesque deconstruction of James Bond-esque "license to kill" largely masculine empowerment fantasies, but not overly far. I don't think that angle was (at least was not wholly) intentional. But it's a fairly valid reading of the series that I don't think is (obviously) wrong. Eh, I'd say that by Blood Money the series was pretty upfront about 47 being pretty much the villain. The tutorial mission has you assassinating a guy whose crime was running a lovely theme park, and his life has already completely gone to poo poo, and he is clearly remorseful about everything he's done, but you murder him with his own baseball bat because 47 doesn't give a hot gay gently caress about morality, the only thing that matters to him is the job. It's a slower, methodical Hotline Miami.
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Mar 23, 2016 14:16
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Honestly I can see where FemFreq is coming from on this. A game with Hitman's freeform focus and social stealth mechanics where you're blending in with a crowd or breaking into a place to steal something without anyone noticing would be the best. There's so many ways you could take social stealth beyond Hitman and the version of Splinter Cell: Conviction that never materialized. But maybe that's just my love of trashy heist movies coming through. 
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Mar 23, 2016 14:26
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Hbomberguy posted:I agree. We have a duty to discuss. I thought it was a cool idea and look forward to a ten minute video explaining it in greater detail.
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Mar 23, 2016 15:26
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[joke]Oh good, I woke up this morning in a panic wondering if we were still talking about Hitman and was worried we'd moved on. Thank heavens.[/joke] Does anyone have Internet Critic recommendations with lower subscriber/view counts/Patreon supporters? It gets harder and harder to find up and comers on Youtube. I've come across a few but I'm always on the lookout for more. Ensign_Ricky posted:And with that, the next episode of Tequila and Bonetti is up and available! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgtX-_GlkA MrSlam fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 15:52
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In Critic news, SFDebris has started to review the 10th Kingdom miniseries: http://sfdebris.com/videos/tv/tenthkingdom.php
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Mar 23, 2016 16:14
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MrSlam posted:Does anyone have Internet Critic recommendations with lower subscriber/view counts/Patreon supporters? It gets harder and harder to find up and comers on Youtube. I've come across a few but I'm always on the lookout for more. It's mostly hard to find up-and-comers because the format is dead. If you're not an established personality or entirely based around Video Essays in the same way Errant Signal/MrBTongue are, it's borderline impossible to break into reviewing on YouTube now. That being said, I'm really into Game Maker's Toolkit, Cagey Videos, Matt Lees' video essays for Cool Ghosts, and Good Blood.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:59
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Genetic Toaster posted:It's mostly hard to find up-and-comers because the format is dead. Thanks for the recommendations. Game Maker's Toolkit in particular looks interesting. I wouldn't say the format is dead though, but it has definitely evolved. It's never going to be the Golden Age of Angry Nerds and Windows Movie Maker again but there's always going to be people who do this sort of thing as a hobby as opposed to a living. Gotta find those diamonds in the rough.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:19
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Are there any good critics that review western TV animation? Or just western animation in general, I guess. I'm not really looking for things like the knockoff Disney DTD movies though. I'd prefer a slightly more "academic" (I guess) tone rather than "GEN WUN TRANSFORMERS IS THE BEST", but I'll take what I can get.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:23
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Genetic Toaster posted:Honestly I can see where FemFreq is coming from on this. A game with Hitman's freeform focus and social stealth mechanics where you're blending in with a crowd or breaking into a place to steal something without anyone noticing would be the best. There's so many ways you could take social stealth beyond Hitman and the version of Splinter Cell: Conviction that never materialized. Hitman: Absolution attempted to do this, in which the majority of the levels you were tasked with simply sneaking from point A to point B or stealing something. But as a result, most people hated the levels where you weren't tasked with killing someone, even though the underlying mechanics were all there. Though, the corridor design of the levels didn't help.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:48
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Eagerly awaiting a wave of video reviews freaking out over "not fun" Batman v Superman.   I cant wait for his video review.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:59
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When I watch a film I also hallucinate wildly about the director's private life
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Mar 23, 2016 18:00
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Again, why is it good that a vague establishment of amateur-to-professional critics agrees with you? I haven't seen the movie, but your criteria for judging it are bizarre. It's good that the large corporation might makes less serious movies because they're degrading your relationship with a fictional universe? Terrible Opinions posted:I think it's a fairly simply platform. "I want movies I like to do well and movies I dislike to do poorly, so that there will be more movies I like in the future and fewer movies I dislike," isn't exactly some sort of revolutionary concept. See I thought this was a simple concept and you get it, but Lamps doesn't. You have a really bad habit of getting hung up on the weirdest poo poo Lamps. Asuron fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 18:03
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Archer666 posted:
What the gently caress is this lol
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Mar 23, 2016 18:07
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Archer666 posted:
I think Moviebob needs to chill.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:13
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:What the gently caress is this lol An internet critic in his natural habitat.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:14
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Asuron posted:See I thought this was a simple concept and you get it, but Lamps doesn't. You have a really bad habit of getting hung up on the weirdest poo poo Lamps. I think it's bizarre to want movies to fall because you didn't like them.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:24
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I'm expecting a lot of internalized annoyance in Internet Critic reviews of BvS. They'll mostly tell you not to see it, the bulk of the audience will be watching their review after seeing it, and they know it. They will have to critique a movie that's critic proof. The fact that so many of them still bring up Man of Steel so much lends credence to this hunch.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:27
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I'm not glad that I was right about Batman vs Superman being poo-poo because I wanted DC to put out a movie that surprised me and wasn't poo-poo. Too bad it's probably poo-poo.The Vosgian Beast posted:I think Moviebob needs to chill. Augus fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 18:32
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Archer666 posted:
loving JOCKS 
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Mar 23, 2016 18:38
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Hbomberguy posted:When I watch a film I also hallucinate wildly about the director's private life MovieBob is overdramatic about geek stuff but you're such a dick in like every post you make, it's astoundingly annoying.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:41
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WickedHate posted:MovieBob is overdramatic about geek stuff but you're such a dick in like every post you make, it's astoundingly annoying. He has a point. HorseRenoir posted:loving JOCKS I kinda hate pulling that card, but yeah. That is exactly what this is. Plus we already know Zach Snyder wants to make a Fountainhead movie, which is way worse than anything Moviebob imagined about him.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:42
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HorseRenoir posted:loving JOCKS Zack Snyder seems like the kind of guy who would've beaten me up in high school and stolen my girl that I wanted to go out with and gone on to get tons of scholarships to great schools and have an illustrious sex life.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:42
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He has a point. I'm not taking up Bob's defense but the overblown snark is a little much for the situation.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:44
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WickedHate posted:I'm not taking up Bob's defense but the overblown snark is a little much for the situation. It really isn't.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:45
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I bet movie Bob is the kind of guy that writes a novel about his experience playing super Mario Bros 3. I bet movie Bob compares the competition between Sega and Nintendo to Vietnam I bet movie Bob reminisces about how he spent his grandma's funeral playing Nintendo instead
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Mar 23, 2016 18:46
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Plus we already know Zach Snyder wants to make a Fountainhead movie Where did that come from?
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Mar 23, 2016 19:02
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I mean I think movies can tell you a lot about their creators and the ideology in the culture surrounding it but even I don't think I could tell you Snyder was on the Paleo diet. That's some Sherlock Holmes poo poo. Someone put Moviebob on a crime prevention unit where his talents are less wasted. Snyder's work is always intensely critical of the ideologies of the stories he adapts. 300 satirises fascist reinterpretation of history, Watchmen does the same to American attitudes to reality, Man of Steel is a movie entirely about being trapped in a self-destructive machine, comparing Krypton to Capitalism in such an incredibly pointed way that it drives liberal marvel fanatics to acid-spitting, motor-oil candle-fantasizing tears...he's an all round brilliant filmmaker and I can't wait to see BvS, and also can't wait to see him adapt Rand's first novel, a novel that accidentally satirises her philosophy constantly by presenting Howard Roark, her ideal man, as a psychotic idiot manchild once you put any thought into his actions. But I'm sure everyone here criticising Snyder for his decisions bothered to read the fountainhead and observe this for themselves, right?
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Mar 23, 2016 19:06
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Ah yes, Snyder is a secret satirical genius, of course.
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Mar 23, 2016 19:10
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ACTUALLY THIS MOVIE SUCKS BECAUSE IT'S SATIRE, IT'S BRILLIANT YOU SEE
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Mar 23, 2016 19:11
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Snyder always came across to me in interviews as a skinny socially awkward dork but I haven't seen any since 2008.
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Mar 23, 2016 19:14
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Zach Snyder's style is repetitive and completely tone-deaf, his Watchmen adaptation was horribly botched when he tried to use the same tricks of melodrama that he used with 300, when Watchmen the book had a very grounded, realist style for the most part that emphasized dialogue and small character gestures over everything else. It required subtlety, which Snyder's films severely lack. Also the mere presence of political commentary doesn't elevate a film, Man of Steel's political commentary was very tired and heavy-handed, and it was mixed in with cringe-worthy appeals towards American nationalism. Oh, capitalism often means the strong devour the weak and that's kinda messed up. Good to know that again, I guess. Also 9/11 was really sad and people in the military are brave!
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There's nothing secret about it. That's not how satire works. If you'd like to argue as to why they aren't, you're welcome to!
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