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The biggest problem with GTA4 is how it tries to be a gritty drama full of tragedy and regret which, even if it was a good gritty drama (NIKO COUSIN LETS GO BOWLING), quickly gets derailed by the stupid reckless poo poo any given person will try to do when they have any amount of freedom in an open-world game. This isn't a dumb derail, GTA4 was a PS4 game, right?
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I played a bit of Bully for the first time today and now I understand the praise. Not sure why Rockstar didn't make a series out of it.
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the truth posted:I played a bit of Bully for the first time today and now I understand the praise. Not sure why Rockstar didn't make a series out of it. How would you even make a sequel to that? A high school student doing sandbox interactions within that small scale context is funny; a college student going around punching people is just a GTA psycho.
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Mar 23, 2016 06:09
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mycot posted:How would you even make a sequel to that? A high school student doing sandbox interactions within that small scale context is funny; a college student going around punching people is just a GTA psycho. Easy, go the opposite direction and set it in elementary school. Bonus points if you're a mongoloid who has been held back for like five grades, so you're a giant amidst babes.
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Mar 23, 2016 06:11
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Easy, go the opposite direction and set it in elementary school. Bonus points if you're a mongoloid who has been held back for like five grades, so you're a giant amidst babes. asian people are good at school yo
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Mar 23, 2016 06:18
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mycot posted:How would you even make a sequel to that? A high school student doing sandbox interactions within that small scale context is funny; a college student going around punching people is just a GTA psycho. Different kid a few years later or at a different school. The way Persona did it.
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Mar 23, 2016 06:23
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GTA3 and Vice City were really fun when they came out. I beat 3 and ended up making my own fun by trying to fly the dodo as far as possible (made it from the last island to the first!). GTA San Andreas and the later titles became increasingly unfun for me as they had more story and increasingly divergent-from-just-causing-mayhem gameplay elements I could not give a gently caress about like girlfriends, janky dress-up, eating, working out, taking over territory, and maintaining criminal empire stuff. Just set me loose on the yardies and give me fun tunes so I canblow everything up. I was always kinda sad they never went back to the British crime well like they did with that London '60s expansion for GTA2.
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Mar 23, 2016 07:09
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bloodychill posted:GTA3 and Vice City were really fun when they came out. I beat 3 and ended up making my own fun by trying to fly the dodo as far as possible (made it from the last island to the first!). GTA San Andreas and the later titles became increasingly unfun for me as they had more story and increasingly divergent-from-just-causing-mayhem gameplay elements I could not give a gently caress about like girlfriends, janky dress-up, eating, working out, taking over territory, and maintaining criminal empire stuff. Just set me loose on the yardies and give me fun tunes so I canblow everything up.
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Mar 23, 2016 07:14
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I don't think it is lost on anyone. It is more that Rockstar's writers do a lovely job of going after low-hanging fruit in the most boring and cliche way possible then try to pass it off as keen insights from non-Americans. Mental masturbation at its worst.
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Mar 23, 2016 07:29
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grrarg posted:I don't think it is lost on anyone. It is more that Rockstar's writers do a lovely job of going after low-hanging fruit in the most boring and cliche way possible then try to pass it off as keen insights from non-Americans. Mental masturbation at its worst.
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Mar 23, 2016 07:35
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loving loving TrackMania https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVPAE6tuJ-c&feature=em-upload_owner
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grrarg posted:I don't think it is lost on anyone. It is more that Rockstar's writers do a lovely job of going after low-hanging fruit in the most boring and cliche way possible then try to pass it off as keen insights from non-Americans. Mental masturbation at its worst. I don't think I will buy the next GTA game, not when the industry is now crowded with open world games. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 07:41
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Samurai Sanders posted:Rockstar North's main purpose with the franchise appears to be to lampoon America...though that seems to have been lost on many GTA players over the years, as well as the media for the most part. The only really big part of that I remember are the radio ads and gun stores all over the place selling bazookas and poo poo. I remember thinking the radio stuff in 3 and Vice City was pretty funny but it's been a long time.
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I’ll have to say that GTA IV has great car physics and anyone who thinks otherwise has merely adopted some preconcieved notion about GTA games having bad car physics instead of thinking for themselves.
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Joakim Brecht posted:I’ll have to say that GTA IV has great car physics and anyone who thinks otherwise has merely adopted some preconcieved notion about GTA games having bad car physics instead of thinking for themselves. Counterpoint: San Francisco Rush has great car physics edit; haha, I miss those awesome ps1 ports BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Joakim Brecht posted:I’ll have to say that GTA IV has great car physics and anyone who thinks otherwise has merely adopted some preconcieved notion about GTA games having bad car physics instead of thinking for themselves. You could get the tank to fly in 3 and possibly Vice City. What I'm saying is the game actually had great car physics if what you're interested in is "fun."
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:So is it just me, or is GTA: San Andreas complete and utter garbage? Long and boring missions, crazy difficulty, uncontrollable vehicles, no cheats, and I have to regularly eat and workout? And I can't even buy a gun or amor? And my reward is having my fellow gang members yell at me for not catching the "drat train"? Well maybe if you weren't such a garbage shot I wouldn't have to! I just spent a solid 5 minutes gunning down people on a motorcycle, just to get blown up at the last second by a guy spawning directly on top of me. PS2 San Andreas had cheats for weapons and ammo you can input with some button combinations, did they take those out of the PS4??
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NESguerilla posted:Is it safe to say that the first fallout dlc is as not worth buying as it sounds? Here's my quick review from the fallout thread: 'So I'm not sure if I could actually recommend automation by itself for anyone unless you have an raging hard on for making robots. But if you bought it as part of the season pass, especially the cheaper one before they increased the price, I think this is a pretty good start. I'm a little over leveled for the dlc stuff but I've spent maybe almost 3 hours and just have the last mission to go.' Basically, unless you could get a lot of fun from building robot companions, I wouldn't buy automation by itself for ten bucks. Just wait for that giant far harbor dlc. or if you're willing to pay ten bucks for another 3 hours of fallout (plus however many you might get from building robots), then that's all you need to decide.
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Actually Saints Row is a bad game series full of dick jokes. Playing GTA for the "mayhem" is dumb, thats not what the games are about. poo poo thread.
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Abu Dave posted:Actually Saints Row is a bad game series full of dick jokes. A bloo bloo bloo nobody plays the games I like the way I like to play them 
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Abu Dave posted:Actually Saints Row is a bad game series full of dick jokes. What exactly do you think games are about?
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Motto posted:Sleepydogs is the only open-world game of its kind that I've enjoyed. the relationship parts of sleepydogs are incredibly dumb and bad even by videogame standards and make absolutely no sense for the character. "how dare you see another guy? I sang karaoke for you that one time in a place where you were paid to be! We spent five whole minutes hanging out, bitch! I'll kill you!" good game otherwise though
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I took you to Fight Club! Don't you know the rules? We did three subquests together...
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I really liked the original Trackmania and I was just thinking "I could use a new arcade racer". I still miss Burnout Takedown and San Francisco Rush though.
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bloodychill posted:GTA3 and Vice City were really fun when they came out. I beat 3 and ended up making my own fun by trying to fly the dodo as far as possible (made it from the last island to the first!). GTA San Andreas and the later titles became increasingly unfun for me as they had more story and increasingly divergent-from-just-causing-mayhem gameplay elements I could not give a gently caress about like girlfriends, janky dress-up, eating, working out, taking over territory, and maintaining criminal empire stuff. Just set me loose on the yardies and give me fun tunes so I canblow everything up. This is a better description of what I was trying to say. I don't mind the maintaining a criminal empire stuff, I mind the complete lack of ability to do anything in the game. They took what they'd made in Vice City and added the exact thing GTA didn't need: gritty "realism". You can't even go buy a gun until you're like 25% through the main story, meanwhile if you cross the wrong street you get shot to pieces with nothing but a can of spray paint to defend yourself. Can you run away? Nope, you're weak because you haven't built up your stamina by going to the gym! It's like the parts of GTAV where Franklin's friend keeps trying to be a gangster and loving things up, except it's the whole game. Re: cheats, they didn't take them out, but using any cheats disable trophies so that's on me, I accept that. And even that's a weird choice, since cheats didn't disable trophies in the other remastered games.
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Abu Dave posted:Actually Saints Row is a bad game series
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:asian people are good at school yo wow way to perpetuate stereotypes man Quote-Unquote posted:the relationship parts of sleepydogs are incredibly dumb and bad even by videogame standards and make absolutely no sense for the character. For me it all just furthered the idea that Wei really IS cracking under the pressure of his job and he's a completely unhinged cop who gets by because nobody can actually manage to kill him. Sleeping Dogs is the only GTA-style game I really loved. It's so much fun to drive in that game and I love the hong kong radio stations I wanna live there
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What's next for Saints Row anyway? Anything? I'm still hoping for a remake of 2 or just a general reboot to that effect.
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One of the endings to Gat out of Hell was a reboot where the Saints end up as the police and I've been rooting for that ever since.
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NESguerilla posted:Salt and Sanctuary is definitely a fun game, but I really have a hard time taking something this derivative seriously. I really wish they had used Souls as more of an inspiration than a template. I've seen a few people say this and I don't really get it. It is very much its own game; the exploration and platforming elements are far more of a Metroidvania thing than anything, the combat is entirely its own thing revolving around combos and such, and the overall aesthetic goes for a more punk gritty sort of thing than the typical Souls melancholy. To me it's a Metroidvania with a lot of Souls dressings owning to the devs being huge fans of it, and what elements it directly takes it always does something interesting with (e.g. how focus interacts with the stamina bar, how the creeds work in general, how sanctuaries work in general).
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edit; nvm who cares
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Genocyber posted:I've seen a few people say this and I don't really get it. It is very much its own game; the exploration and platforming elements are far more of a Metroidvania thing than anything, the combat is entirely its own thing revolving around combos and such, and the overall aesthetic goes for a more punk gritty sort of thing than the typical Souls melancholy. To me it's a Metroidvania with a lot of Souls dressings owning to the devs being huge fans of it, and what elements it directly takes it always does something interesting with (e.g. how focus interacts with the stamina bar, how the creeds work in general, how sanctuaries work in general). The reason is simply that the first chunk of the game IS basically a 2-D Dark Souls, since none of the Metroidvania elements present themselves until you're a fair bit into the game. Platforming can be feel particularly clunky if you neglect to consider that heavy armor affects your jump and if you wanna platform, go light. Once people do, it's all simple from there, but the start of the game definitely has the strongest Souls-feel, for good and for ill. The game becomes its own entity as you go along, and I think the difficulty progression is overall quite good.
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the only good saints row is the first one
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Super No Vacancy posted:the only good saints row is the first one lol nah
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I can understand not liking the Saints Row games. It means you're terrible and have bad opinions, but I can understand that. There is no excuse for liking Saints Row 1. Samurai Sanders posted:What's next for Saints Row anyway? Anything? I'm still hoping for a remake of 2 or just a general reboot to that effect. It should be you going back in time to kick your own rear end. Earth was destroyed because the Boss and the Saints got too powerful. The solution for saving Earth is obviously to stop their rise, and only one person is capable of that. Mechanically it can play just like the pre-superpower ones but the rival gangs are the Saints themselves, and you can still have appearances from all the old characters. It can even be the part between 1 and 2 while the Boss is in a coma where the Saints lose all their holdings. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Feenix posted:loving loving TrackMania I love that this game looks and sounds so much like a modern take on a late 90s Japanese arcade racing game.
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Aphrodite posted:It should be you going back in time to kick your own rear end. Earth was destroyed because the Boss and the Saints got too powerful. The solution for saving Earth is obviously to stop their rise, and only one person is capable of that. What I mostly want out of a new Saints Row is a proper and undisturbed development process. Volition did a great job stitching bits and pieces together into a pretty good game twice, would be cool to have one now where the cracks don't show as much. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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You play a Terminator sent to eliminate yourself that looks like.. yourself. So maybe you can keep some special powers like super jumping or whatever.
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Yodzilla posted:I love that this game looks and sounds so much like a modern take on a late 90s Japanese arcade racing game. Holy poo poo. The last time I played a trackmania game, it did not look like that.
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I got Dark Souls 3. I am happy so far, but real Dark Souls has not started yet and I'm going to bed before it does, or else I won't be able to sleep.
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