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The Shortest Path posted:Surrendering is a positive if you look at it from the perspective of getting the most out of your time but most people are ragey idiot fucks so you often have situations with people throwing the game out the window at 20 mins because they lost lane or dragging a game out well past the time you actually lost because a couple nerds want to win at any cost. most often what happens to me is the game is an absolute shitshow clownfest and three people hit yes multiple loving times when the other two enjoy trolling the poo poo out of them (usually as the result of a pissy slapfight) and dragging out the game to a 40 minute loss full of raging assholery. usually when one dude is all lovely and asks for a surrender at 20 minutes in a not one-sided game it's a 1/4 yes/no to the surrender vote immediately because it's very obvious that we have a good chance of winning.
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I don't mind when people hit no on a surrender vote but when they just sit there and stare at the button until the timer runs out it makes me irrationally upset
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Mar 23, 2016 19:50
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Aurelion Sol Champ Spotlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM520graePQ God drat the whole stars visible when in brush thing basically means he can't hide in any brush ever.
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Mar 23, 2016 19:59
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I like having surrender as an option even if some babies occasionally surrender games they shouldn't.
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Mar 23, 2016 19:59
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Kashuno posted:God drat the whole stars visible when in brush thing basically means he can't hide in any brush ever. A majestic dragon isn't going to hide in puny green bushes!
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Mar 23, 2016 20:05
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i never surrender because i lust only for honorable death in combat
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Mar 23, 2016 20:06
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it doesn't help that every person who makes newbie guides on youtube tells people to never surrender because you never know! Which is bullshit because being down 15 kills at 25 minutes and missing an inhib means the game is over unless you somehow manage to drag that poo poo on 40 more minutes trying to poorly backdoor.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:11
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Aurelion Sol looks dope as gently caress but lol at the ganking part in the video where they're like "LOOK HOW POWERFUL AURELION SOL'S STARS ARE" because a greedy no health lucian flashes directly into one.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:13
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Both Sol and Jhin are cool and it's nice that Riot is finally trying to inject some personality into their game even though everyone still has incredibly overlong, mumbly lines when they move.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:14
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Primetime posted:It works for hots, but it helps a lot that hots has guaranteed win conditions on a lot of maps thanks to objectives. You can theoretically win a lot of maps without attacking a single tower and just abusing objectives (e.g. the temple, pirate map, etc). I won a game yesterday that we had no business of winning yesterday because the enemy team's Vayne was apparently bitching at her team to not end so she could solo Baron. (She couldn't.) We lost our mid inhibitor for the first time at 29 minutes, they took two Barons after that and still didn't push in for the win (presumably because of Vayne). We eventually won at 45 minutes after we turned my getting caught (as tank Nautilus) into a solid engage for our Twitch to get a penta. This game also featured the enemy Lee Sin buying a Zhonya's Hourglass at 41 minutes for some reason. I think I'd probably have still preferred to just ff@20 when we were down like 18-9 in kills and 4-1 in towers.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:27
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Zhonya's is a pretty hilarious last item on Lee Sin. And by hilarious I mean really loving frustrating.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:38
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A lot of "lost" games are winnable, a lot of the also aren't worth the effort
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Mar 23, 2016 20:39
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Lmao at riot barely wanting to pay half of the industry standard for their casters. What happened to this company?
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Mar 23, 2016 20:42
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henkman posted:A lot of "lost" games are winnable, a lot of the also aren't worth the effort I don't mind when people want to try to win a losing match, as long as I'm doing okay and not totally useless. Otherwise gently caress that, you had better surrender or I'm reporting your toxic rear end.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:43
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Fluffdaddy posted:it doesn't help that every person who makes newbie guides on youtube tells people to never surrender because you never know! Which is bullshit because being down 15 kills at 25 minutes and missing an inhib means the game is over unless you somehow manage to drag that poo poo on 40 more minutes trying to poorly backdoor. New players may not have the best sense for when a game is winnable or a completely beyond hope disaster, and playing out games is a good learning experience. I don't mind surrendering games that are beyond salvation barring the leading team AFKing for 10 minutes, but some people seem to only want to play if they're winning and torpedo morale by spamming surrender and complaining otherwise.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:44
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Sol looks kinda fun and is all sorts of sassy.
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Tonetta posted:Lmao at riot barely wanting to pay half of the industry standard for their casters. What happened to this company? There are good and bad things about them completely controlling the casting/production market for their pro scene, and that's one of the bad things. But don't worry. Reddit will throw a hissy fit and doa and monte will be on the desk.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:46
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Tonetta posted:Lmao at riot barely wanting to pay half of the industry standard for their casters. What happened to this company? That's actually kinda sad I like the OGN casters
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Mar 23, 2016 20:48
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Lady Naga posted:I don't mind when people hit no on a surrender vote but when they just sit there and stare at the button until the timer runs out it makes me irrationally upset This is what I do 90% of the time. Riot can leave surrendering in the game as an option but I prefer just pretending it doesn't exist. I'd rather concentrate on playing even a losing game than on people trying to politically marshal the votes for a surrender in chat. If the rest of the team votes it 4-0 we can surrender.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:01
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Libertine posted:This is what I do 90% of the time. Riot can leave surrendering in the game as an option but I prefer just pretending it doesn't exist. I'd rather concentrate on playing even a losing game than on people trying to politically marshal the votes for a surrender in chat. If the rest of the team votes it 4-0 we can surrender. then just hit the no button it takes literally half a second and its not "breaking your concentration"
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Mar 23, 2016 21:02
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Tonetta posted:Lmao at riot barely wanting to pay half of the industry standard for their casters. What happened to this company? Suddenly I understand why we're stuck with Rivington.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:12
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BigLeafyTree posted:New players may not have the best sense for when a game is winnable or a completely beyond hope disaster, and playing out games is a good learning experience. I don't mind surrendering games that are beyond salvation barring the leading team AFKing for 10 minutes, but some people seem to only want to play if they're winning and torpedo morale by spamming surrender and complaining otherwise. That's all fine and good, but if you are new, you are probably not good enough to reverse a losing game. And its one thing if the vote is 1/4 because someone is rage surrendering. But being the one hold out in a 3/2 game is dumb because that means over half your team has given up and if you were good enough to drag around 4 corpses you wouldn't be in bronze in the first place. New people understand if no one on their team has a positive score and are down multiple towers to none that the game will take 50+ minutes of unbearable slog to turn around. It is all about time investment over results.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:13
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Corbeau posted:Suddenly I understand why we're stuck with Rivington. 
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Fluffdaddy posted:That's all fine and good, but if you are new, you are probably not good enough to reverse a losing game. And its one thing if the vote is 1/4 because someone is rage surrendering. But being the one hold out in a 3/2 game is dumb because that means over half your team has given up and if you were good enough to drag around 4 corpses you wouldn't be in bronze in the first place. For normals it's probably better to surrender, but anyone who's really interested in getting a higher rank should always slog it out.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:26
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Lady Naga posted:then just hit the no button it takes literally half a second and its not "breaking your concentration" So you're saying I should just throw my vote away?
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Mar 23, 2016 21:27
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Libertine posted:So you're saying I should just throw my vote away? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70
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Mar 23, 2016 21:30
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Libertine posted:So you're saying I should just throw my vote away? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70 E: gently caress
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Mar 23, 2016 21:31
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Safety Scissors posted:For normals it's probably better to surrender, but anyone who's really interested in getting a higher rank should always slog it out. Why?
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Mar 23, 2016 21:34
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Sometimes you gotta choose something other than Surrender [Yes] or Surrender [No], sometimes you gotta choose not to choose because there are no reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf_WiEb9Qs The heavy drug use and 5v5 hooligan soccer match in this scene actually pretty accurately represents a game of League.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:35
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Fluffdaddy posted:Why? It's better to win one game in 50+ minutes, than to lose and win one in the same amount of time.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:44
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Tonetta posted:Lmao at riot barely wanting to pay half of the industry standard for their casters. What happened to this company? Apparently $8k per caster is way to much money
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Fluffdaddy posted:That's all fine and good, but if you are new, you are probably not good enough to reverse a losing game. When you're new, the people you play against are also absolutely poo poo at closing a game out regardless of gold difference or pressure. In fact, I'd say about 20-30% of games that should be absolutely unwinnable 'even' in low diamond manage to be thrown solely because of failure to recognise how to win. That's not to say that I don't vote to FF when I feel the opposing team will close the game out, but at the end of the day everyone is loving garbage at this game and games are still thrown at the highest levels of play. Calling a game genuinely unwinnable is generally overestimating the enemy's ability to throw their lead. Fluffdaddy posted:Which is bullshit because being down 15 kills at 25 minutes and missing an inhib means the game is over unless you somehow manage to drag that poo poo on 40 more minutes trying to poorly backdoor. Also this is a gross exaggeration. Being down 15 kills at 25 minutes is hardly insurmountable and, if anything, stopping a siege with one downed inhibitor at 25 minutes is much easier than doing so at 40 minutes. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 22:12
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I just locked Nunu mid in a gold 1 ranked and noone on my team said a word, except one person asking what bloodboil did
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The Mash posted:I just locked Nunu mid in a gold 1 ranked and noone on my team said a word, except one person asking what bloodboil did Sometimes I have hope for the community
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Hermetic posted:She's always pretty high up there, but every patch it seems that there's one or two junglers that you have to pick/ban. She rotated up to that this patch, I mean. Nidalee has been pick/ban in competitive basically since the season started. Stop posting, you have no loving clue what you're talking about.
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Mar 23, 2016 22:25
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I would like to go on the record to say that blah_blah started it this time!!
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Mar 23, 2016 22:27
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Nidale is really boring to watch in pro play because yes I know there is a bunch of other poo poo going on but it's basically "nid coming in for a gank...missed her spear nvm"
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Mar 23, 2016 22:32
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Sexpansion posted:I like having surrender as an option even if some babies occasionally surrender games they shouldn't. Yeah, it's nice to have an out when the game is lost, but I do hate that moment when the midlaner loses lane, rages, threatens to feed, and everyone just FFs except you. Especially when you've won your lane.
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Kashuno posted:Nidale is really boring to watch in pro play because yes I know there is a bunch of other poo poo going on but it's basically "nid coming in for a gank...missed her spear nvm" I kind of like the part where she gets 43 pounce resets in a row and clears her jungle twice as fast as the opposing jungler.
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blah_blah posted:I kind of like the part where she gets 43 pounce resets in a row and clears her jungle twice as fast as the opposing jungler. So long as Nid's Q keeps doing any sort of major poke damage, she'll be a stupid and unfun champion to fight. I wish they would just change Q spear to also be an execute ability like her cougar Q, I would have no issues with her at that point.
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