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nachos posted:I don't get what Kasich is doing and how he has money to support it. Who the hell is funding him at this point. ...Trump?
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nachos posted:I don't get what Kasich is doing and how he has money to support it. Who the hell is funding him at this point. It's pretty mid-boggling. He may be able to win Pennsylvania if the stars align, but there's literally nowhere else he'll even get so much as a delegate. Maybe Rhode Island will chuck one his way? Like, he has to realise in a brokered convention the last thing they want to do is put Kasich in the spot. They'd go with Paul Ryan before him.
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Shageletic posted:So how many dastardly Muslims make up a ton again? 2000? There are several hundred thousand in Belgium, I wonder why no one noticed that a good chunk of the country was in on the plan. No one said anything about dastardly- just that people were housing and feeding these terrorists, either witting or unwittingly. I don't think it's an outlandish concept.
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Mar 23, 2016 19:56
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I'm being 100% serious- many people are helping these terrorists. Housing and feeding them. These terrorists house and feed themselves, as they tend to be more well off than the average person.
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zoux posted:I support Kasich's efforts to ensure Donald Trump reaches 1237. Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/JayCostTWS/status/712708853847212033 I was skeptical at first, but it looks increasingly like Kasich is making a play for the Vice President slot in Trump's campaign and wants to use his delegates as a bargaining chip. If Trump comes up short of 1237, then Trump either has to bribe a lot of unpledged delegates before the Convention or buddy up with Kasich. The latter is going to be a lot easier, as Kasich seems to view himself in almost messianic terms and would want to raise his profile for a run in 2020 or 2024.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I'm being 100% serious- many people are helping these terrorists. Housing and feeding them. What's many? Give me a number. You can do this. EDIT: I believe in you Tight Booty Shorts
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Mar 23, 2016 19:58
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Venom Snake posted:These terrorists house and feed themselves, as they tend to be more well off than the average person. Oh word? Alright glad to know you've figured out all the connections and networks the terrorists had in Belgium.
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Shageletic posted:What's many? Give me a number. You can do this. More than 0. Less than 2 billion, for sure.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:More than 0. Less than 2 billion, for sure. Hmmm yes insightful. I see why you've posted five times in two pages. You're bringing alot to the thread.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:cruz and trump seem to be in a race to see who can lose the most of the non-white/male electorate. a few years ago, one of the stories i was looking forward to seeing play out in this campaign was to what degree the gop would be able to control its message in the primary. the consensus in 2012, i think, was that by having all these "let them die" "self-deportation" type moments in the primary they were simultaneously digging a hole with the general electorate and creating a bigger base enthusiasm problem for themselves when it came time to change their messaging for the general. the thought was that by reducing the number of debates and insurgent-proofing the delegate allocation process they could avoid a competitive primary where each candidate kept trying to outflank their opponents on the right. Donald Trump took an ied to the insurgent-proofed primary process and he and Cruz have been flanking rightward like the Schlieffen plan basically everything the gop thought they had learned in 2012 was wrong, their base broke out of the holding pens and is running amok, and aside from this intermediary stage where we see if the party fractures even more than it already has in the final stages of the primary, the big question is whether something similar is going to happen to the general electorate. if Bernie was winning and Bloomberg was in the race i might be buying that - so far I'm not really seeing it i think the dynamics of the gop primary are forcing them to move so far right in response to terrorism that they're outpacing the general public's own rightward shift and creating pr problems for the nypd and others who really do violate Muslim civil liberties like they want them to, just kinda quietly. if they could just say "Democrats are weak on terror, let's continue the status quo with a few minor changes" like they tend to do on foreign policy they'd have a guaranteed winning point, but when they need to satisfy the purity trolls of the right they leave the authoritarian centrist ground open for Democrats. if there was an equivalent pull to the left in the Democratic primary then Hillary couldn't take advantage, but i don't think there is. i dunno, that's kinda rambling but i think there are some testable predictions in there - the public will respond to terrorism by shifting rightward, the gop will scare a lot of rightward moving centrists off by forcing people like the nypd to push back, and Clinton will say milquetoast things that have the support of law enforcement, pissing off liberals at little cost. we'll see how much of that poo poo happens, if any
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Oh word? Alright glad to know you've figured out all the connections and networks the terrorists had in Belgium. How do you propose to enforce a community reporting system? What punishments are reserved collectively for community's were a terrorist hailed from?
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QuoProQuid posted:
This reminds me of all those times when big huge external threat is coming to destroy a country but its politicians are too easy squabbling over their bullshit to unite against them. Thus dooming them all in the end
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Mar 23, 2016 20:05
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Mar 23, 2016 20:07
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He doesn't consider waterboarding torture--so that's how he'll get around it.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:08
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Venom Snake posted:How do you propose to enforce a community reporting system? What punishments are reserved collectively for community's were a terrorist hailed from? What I'm most worried about is his numbering seems to be declining from "tons" to "many" to "people". He's going to have to post quick or he might just backpedal through zero into the negative zone, turning this entire thread irrational .
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Mar 23, 2016 20:10
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I'm sorry but the death count was barely above Newtown, which was not only on US soil but was a bunch of little kids being gunned down. If no legislative action is called for in the wake of that then I am afraid people should just shut their drat mouths about this and security measures
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Mar 23, 2016 20:11
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pathetic little tramp posted:It's pretty mid-boggling. He may be able to win Pennsylvania if the stars align, but there's literally nowhere else he'll even get so much as a delegate. Maybe Rhode Island will chuck one his way? Like, he has to realise in a brokered convention the last thing they want to do is put Kasich in the spot. They'd go with Paul Ryan before him. If you look at the county results in the OH election, literally every county bordering PA was a Kasich loss. There is no way anybody but Trump wins the primary in PA unless Trump implodes by himself. Nobody in PA gives a poo poo about Kasich.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:11
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Even from a practical standpoint community punishment makes no sense because historically it hasn't been productive to reducing terrorism.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:12
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Typo posted:This reminds me of all those times when big huge external threat is coming to destroy a country but its politicians are too easy squabbling over their bullshit to unite against them. Thus dooming them all in the end Another occasion when a man in gold heralded change. 
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Personally I just think it is terrible that political correctness has brought us to the point where you can't even suggest muslim police state ghettos without people getting all worked up about it.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:15
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Venom Snake posted:How do you propose to enforce a community reporting system? What punishments are reserved collectively for community's were a terrorist hailed from? Who the gently caress is talking about community reporting systems? When did "terrorists are receiving support from their communities" get changed to "we must monitor Muslim communities and develop punishments for any deviation"
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Mar 23, 2016 20:16
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I'm being 100% serious- many people are helping these terrorists. Housing and feeding them. This is the point Trump made with the line about going after families, but what people in this thread have chosen to believe (with lots of group reinforcement) is that Trump wants to murder completely innocent women and children indiscriminately. If you're the most wanted man in the European Union and you manage to hide out in the city that hosts the headquarters of NATO for four months, you had help, and that help is just as guilty.
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Shageletic posted:What I'm most worried about is his numbering seems to be declining from "tons" to "many" to "people". He's going to have to post quick or he might just backpedal through zero into the negative zone, turning this entire thread irrational .  tell me more about how I worry you
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:This is the point Trump made with the line about going after families, but what people in this thread have chosen to believe (with lots of group reinforcement) is that Trump wants to murder completely innocent women and children indiscriminately. If you're the most wanted man in the European Union and you manage to hide out in the city that hosts the headquarters of NATO for four months, you had help, and that help is just as guilty. You're insane.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l-918fzuZp4 Cruz was on Oreily and said he believes he will win New York and California. :lol I highly recommend watching the full thing as Bill clearly doesn't want the Cruz bullshit he gives in every interview Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Epic High Five posted:I'm sorry but the death count was barely above Newtown, which was not only on US soil but was a bunch of little kids being gunned down. If no legislative action is called for in the wake of that then I am afraid people should just shut their drat mouths about this and security measures That was an autistic, heavily mentally ill, young twenty-something, doing it because *reasons*. If it were a deliberate act by a purposefully driven Muslim, there would've been nationwide outrage at both the religion and any middle-eastern looking race. If it were any kind of immigrant, let alone a middle-eastern immigrant, poo poo would've definitely gone down in either legislature or administration.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:19
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Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:20
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. Was it Gov. Goldfinger?
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Who the gently caress is talking about community reporting systems? When did "terrorists are receiving support from their communities" get changed to "we must monitor Muslim communities and develop punishments for any deviation" I assumed if you think it's a problem that you thought it might need addressing. Historically the train of thought for "they are only able to do this because of their communities" leads to collective punishment. Top Bunk Wanker posted:This is the point Trump made with the line about going after families, but what people in this thread have chosen to believe (with lots of group reinforcement) is that Trump wants to murder completely innocent women and children indiscriminately. He has repeatedly said we should do so and not care because ISIS does it up and to including "evening the field" with torture.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:Was it Gov. Goldfinger? Knowing the crowd Hannity hangs with it was most likely his buddy Scott Walker.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l-918fzuZp4 In all fairness to Cruz he sincerely believes all sorts of really stupid things.
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. On the one hand, there is no way that's true, Paul Ryan getting the nomination would kill the Republicans especially if Trump ran independent. On the other hand, chaos reigns.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:24
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Venom Snake posted:I assumed nice bro, you probably know about what they say when you assume things.
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. John Kasich is technically prominent at this point, yeah.
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. That is probably the plan for a lot of the GOP to be honest but I doubt Paul would even take the nomination if it was offered, it would be career suicide.
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. Upon hearing this news, Paul Ryan is currently trying to find some way into the federal witness protection program.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:
This isn't addressing the fact that you think it's an issue but also don't think that we should do something about it, or that again historically the train of thought your employing leads to collective punishment.
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I can't wait to read the books that will be written about this cycle
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Montasque posted:Sean Hannity is saying that a very prominent Republican Governor told him in confidence that the GOPe plan is to torpedo Trump and Cruz at the convention and put in Paul Ryan. His source was John Kasich, wasn't it?
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Monkey Fracas posted:I can't wait to read the books that will be written about this cycle But you can already read The Art of the Deal. I'm not joking btw since more than half the book is just trump bragging about DEALS which sums up 90% of his speeches and policy platform.
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