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IronicDongz posted:braixen is definitely not top tier definitely strong though, combos well with frogadier, broomdash can't be grabbed and is very quick, field phase is really good a good braixen will require you to cdac if you want to win more than a few times
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Mar 24, 2016 13:13
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Dosvidanya posted:Is there a recording option in training mode? I can't seem to find it if there is.
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Mar 24, 2016 13:53
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may contain peanuts posted:I couldn't find it either. Really disappointing. There's a ton of moves I wanted to try to lab to figure out how to beat them, but the training mode doesn't seem set up to let you use it like that. its super disappointing that there's no record feature for training, yeah hop in the discord later today (4pm eastern) and i'd be down for helping you test stuff offer extends to anyone in the thread really, as long as you're cool with me recording it!
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Mar 24, 2016 13:57
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Is there a pokken discord? I didn't one listed in the OP I can't join at that time (I get off of work at 4 pm est), but yeah I too am frustrated that I can't easily figure out punishes in this games training mode. I hope if this game gets dlc, they add in that function later. Or at least they put in framedata somewhere. Ventana fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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Mar 24, 2016 14:13
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Rafza posted:its super disappointing that there's no record feature for training, yeah I don't usually get home until like 6pm eastern but I'll def be in the discord when I do. I bought the Wii U literally yesterday and had to spend more time than I wanted downloading updates instead of playing, wanna make up for that tonight. Ventana posted:Is there a pokken discord? I didn't one listed in the OP
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Mar 24, 2016 14:20
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I'll PM OP to see if they can add the discord info to the first post, also i'm typically in the discord all the time but tonight at about 6:30 pm eastern i've got a pokken tournament so i won't be on much tonight Worst case scenario you can hit me up tomorrow afternoon or over the weekend, i'll be playing it all weekend
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Mar 24, 2016 15:18
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IronicDongz posted:braixen is definitely not top tier Shut your mouth
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Mar 24, 2016 16:12
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I played an online match against a Braxien that ran away and slammed fire shots in field phase for the whole two matches. Braxien is god tier
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Mar 24, 2016 17:04
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Spintzel posted:I played an online match against a Braxien that ran away and slammed fire shots in field phase for the whole two matches. Braxien is god tier Chandelure and Suicune can counterspam, Suicune can make an ice wall, Pikachu, Weavile, and Blazeken can easily run around them, Machamp can just power through them, and Gengar can just shadow punch her from across the map.
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Mar 24, 2016 17:11
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Spintzel posted:I played an online match against a Braxien that ran away and slammed fire shots in field phase for the whole two matches. Braxien is god tier
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Mar 24, 2016 18:02
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may contain peanuts posted:I'm gonna learn Braxien i'll pm you this video of me playing vs my competitive player buddy, his braixen is super solid, i think i only got him twice out of 11 fights, but i'm still learning how to play properly and not mash out brave bird it'll be uploaded tonight
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Mar 24, 2016 18:05
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Any Machamp players know how to work Scary Face in? I keep getting punished when I use it online.
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Mar 24, 2016 19:55
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Broseph Brostar posted:Any Machamp players know how to work Scary Face in? I keep getting punished when I use it online. I've had some success doing it after a counterattack, but mostly on accident. I think holding a after the counter attack lands then releasing after it finishes works.
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Mar 24, 2016 20:03
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I put the Discord link into the OP. sorry for not seeing it earlier.
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Mar 24, 2016 20:31
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SilverSupernova posted:Chandelure and Suicune can counterspam, Suicune can make an ice wall, Pikachu, Weavile, and Blazeken can easily run around them, Machamp can just power through them, and Gengar can just shadow punch her from across the map. That assumes the braixen is predictable. I have met some online who place delays in between attacks, attack with varying projectiles and back up when they predict a guard. The fact of the matter is that Chandeulre is a mostly even matchup at field and duel, suicune can be baited, and machamp/gengar have to struggle because despite that they have tools they are predictable and punishable should they be called out. I agree that speed characters are her worst problem, but that just goes back to what I said pages ago - I think speed characters are all astoundingly good and counter just about anything.
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Mar 24, 2016 20:33
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Is there a reason to use regular grab if you have a command grab? Is it a frame data thing or does it work in situations where the command grab doesn't?
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Mar 24, 2016 20:55
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Reiley posted:Is there a reason to use regular grab if you have a command grab? Is it a frame data thing or does it work in situations where the command grab doesn't? It seems like command grabs are a little slower than regular grabs, so regular grabs can work as punishes where a command grab would be too slow. However there's no frame data available for the game yet (afaik), so I'm just going off of what it seems like to me. It's most obvious with Machamp's buffed command grab, when buffed the armour frames at the beginning seem to override the actual throw, so he can be thrown out of his own throw. Had that happen to me a few times. My Crab is Fight fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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Mar 24, 2016 21:04
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Reiley posted:Is there a reason to use regular grab if you have a command grab? Is it a frame data thing or does it work in situations where the command grab doesn't? Not sure about other characters but Machamp's command grab is slower to start up. If you want to initiate a phase change you would want to use regular grab but that's about all I can think of. Maybe mixing up the grab animations if the opponent starts to react to your command grabs?
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Mar 24, 2016 21:05
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Spintzel posted:I played an online match against a Braxien that ran away and slammed fire shots in field phase for the whole two matches. Braxien is god tier that was me
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Mar 24, 2016 21:13
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2MB posted:Not sure about other characters but Machamp's command grab is slower to start up. If you want to initiate a phase change you would want to use regular grab but that's about all I can think of. Maybe mixing up the grab animations if the opponent starts to react to your command grabs? Pika's Nuzzle phase changes as well and you can combo into it, its on >A and I've just used it so much I realized I couldn't tell you what Pika's field-mode standard grab animation is. If its faster it sounds like normal grab would be a better Triangle response to (???) command counters.
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Mar 24, 2016 21:17
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What the hell is with the netcode in this game? I just tried to play 4 ranked matches, and all 4 of them were the laggiest connection I've ever played, followed by disconnects before the first round ended. I lost gold for one of them!
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Mar 25, 2016 01:33
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Can anyone help me with learning Gengar? -What is his gameplan? To get in, to zone, or to play whatever the opponent isnt? -What is the point to the fade in his strong combo, should i be trying to challenge moves with its invuln? -What should I be doing during field phase? As someone who plays machamp/charizard/chandelure I typically have characters with a single thesis of "Get the hell in" or "Zone like crazy". I could use some help finding out what the hell Gengar actually wants.
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Mar 25, 2016 01:45
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may contain peanuts posted:What the hell is with the netcode in this game? I just tried to play 4 ranked matches, and all 4 of them were the laggiest connection I've ever played, followed by disconnects before the first round ended. I lost gold for one of them! The issue might be on your end or possibly you just had really bad luck and got stuck in matches against 4 people with bad connections, because most everyone else has had very little problem with the netcode.
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Mar 25, 2016 02:19
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The Gorp posted:Can anyone help me with learning Gengar? Gengar's a versitile and unpredictable one. One of his biggest deals is that his Mega gauge builds up the slowest, but his mega form completely changes his playstyle and lasts the longest of any fighter. In field, his projectiles are slow, which is useful for keepaway. I'd say his best ranged options are his air projectile, and his regular a attack. His back a (Shadow Punch) can hit the enemy from anywhere in the arena and is really helpful for catching others off guard. In Duel phase, you can keep up this strategy (minus the aerial projectile bit) and use his Up A charged to plant a stationary shadow ball. His down A is also really helpful when they get close, but this also deals a little damage to Gengar so use it with caution. Also his command grab (Hypnosis) can combo into his regular grab in normal form and into his mega attack in Mega form. SilverSupernova fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Mar 25, 2016 02:44
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may contain peanuts posted:What the hell is with the netcode in this game? I just tried to play 4 ranked matches, and all 4 of them were the laggiest connection I've ever played, followed by disconnects before the first round ended. I lost gold for one of them! Are you on wifi? If yes, I have some bad news.......
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Mar 25, 2016 02:45
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One interesting thing about Gengar is that his homing attack ducks under ranged attacks that don't specifically hit the ground. This can be helpful against very spam heavy opponents.
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Mar 25, 2016 02:51
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Also worth noting with Gengar is that his super is a huge AOE command grab as well, you will undoubtedly catch a lot of people with it.
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Mar 25, 2016 03:45
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Emalde posted:pokkensingleplayer.jpg Oh god there's another league after red?
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Mar 25, 2016 04:45
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Night Blade posted:Oh god there's another league after red? Iron is the last one.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:49
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Night Blade posted:Oh god there's another league after red? two. chroma, then iron.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:53
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I'm actually winning some online matches tonight!! I guess that's what happens when you start actually learning what buttons do certain attacks and then using them strategically on purpose!
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Mar 25, 2016 05:02
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may contain peanuts posted:What the hell is with the netcode in this game? I just tried to play 4 ranked matches, and all 4 of them were the laggiest connection I've ever played, followed by disconnects before the first round ended. I lost gold for one of them! I played like 20+ matches today, featuring people from like Texas and California and even a dude from Canada, and aside from 2 connections and 1 rage quitter everything was fine here.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:33
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I live in Alaska and i've played with people from all over the USA, as well as people from Mexico and Japan. out of 150~ or so matches, 4 of them were laggy and not very fun.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:50
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I've fought a guy as far away as Norway and the connection was fine, and I fought a guy that lived in my own tiny province in Canada and it was awful. I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's the individual ISPs at fault.
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Mar 25, 2016 06:20
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Ventana posted:I played like 20+ matches today, featuring people from like Texas and California and even a dude from Canada, and aside from 2 connections and 1 rage quitter everything was fine here.
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Mar 25, 2016 14:57
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may contain peanuts posted:I can't even play Massachusetts to New York in this game. RIP Do you have a USB Ethernet adapter? When I couldn't connect in Splatoon this fixed my problem. They're super cheap at Staples.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:55
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Bass Bottles posted:Do you have a USB Ethernet adapter? When I couldn't connect in Splatoon this fixed my problem. They're super cheap at Staples.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:59
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may contain peanuts posted:I can't even play Massachusetts to New York in this game. RIP Maybe we should play sometime? Then we could just gauge it there, maybe I'm just lucky or crazy. (Though maybe we shouldn't, cause I'm also playing Braixen :x )
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Ventana posted:Maybe we should play sometime? Then we could just gauge it there, maybe I'm just lucky or crazy.
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