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Night10194 posted:I imagine it's like how War in the Pacific (a grognard strategy game for PC) doesn't require the Japanese player to win; the Japanese player 'wins' if they hold on longer than Japan did. It's less 'could this guy in a fight he was never going to win pull it out' and more 'can you manage to do better than he did'.
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Mango Polo posted:gently caress machamp, it's all about chandelure 
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Mar 24, 2016 19:05
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Why don't you guys check out my metapod 
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Mar 24, 2016 19:10
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keeps failing to use Harden tho
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Mar 24, 2016 20:38
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Zereth posted:Don't those usually also have asymmetric victory conditions, though? Depends. The classic way to do it with historicals is to switch armies and replay the scenario to see if one player is able to consistently outperform the other. There's also an umpire a fair amount of the time who determines which side was better commanded. It's pretty unusual to even have a notion of points or whatever in a lot of historical rulesets, figuring out victory is usually discussing how well each side accomplished their objectives over the course of the battle or performed relative to how the actual battle went. Basically a ton of Narrative Forging.
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Mar 24, 2016 21:13
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"I'm forging the narrative of a renegade skaven warband out to pillage some brettonian villages" "And I'm forging the narrative of Khorne's personal Bloodbath Bloodwranglers Bloodthirsters Demon Horde out to wreck everyone's poo poo" Umpire: "Alright, may the best forger win!"
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Mar 24, 2016 21:23
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Hi5
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Mango Polo posted:"I'm forging the narrative of a renegade skaven warband out to pillage some brettonian villages" Yeah, that's exactly why it breaks for GW games. If you're putting together a hypothetical scenario for the American Civil War, there's a ton of source material to work off of and create a common denominator that will ultimately make a scenario that's fun to play even if it's lopsided. The armies people play with come out of the scenario and historical period, where GW does it completely backwards and has people start with the armies and attempts to have a narrative come out of a scenario they're both jammed into.
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Maybe if the British worked more Bloodthirsters and Dragons into their narrative instead of focusing on the red coat spam they could have done better.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Yeah, that's exactly why it breaks for GW games. If you're putting together a hypothetical scenario for the American Civil War, there's a ton of source material to work off of and create a common denominator that will ultimately make a scenario that's fun to play even if it's lopsided. The armies people play with come out of the scenario and historical period, where GW does it completely backwards and has people start with the armies and attempts to have a narrative come out of a scenario they're both jammed into. The thing is, its not like my friends and I never did this Warhammer. We'd decide we wanted to re-enact some battle in the fluff, like Grom's invasion of Hoethe, and just work out what seemed like a good way to do it. Often that meant not having balanced forces, because maybe the mission isn't about stopping the goblin horde, but whether or not scouts can escape to warn the Elven army, or how long they can hold up a pass to buy time for a muster or whatever. It was even something that was encouraged and supported at one point with uneven forces, I recall there being scenarios for playing out select battles from the War of the Beard or the destruction of Bugman's Brewery. But how do you do this with AoS? Like if me and my friends want to do something like that, we sit down and decide we want to play some games based around... uh.... the Heldenhammers attack on the Tower of Filth? Is that a thing? Sigmar's liberation of the Celestial Palace? All we have are a bunch of lovely maps that look like they were torn out of a middle schooler's trapper-keeper and vague group names. There's no traction to actually make any of this stuff.
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Exinos posted:Maybe if the British worked more Bloodthirsters and Dragons into their narrative instead of focusing on the red coat spam they could have done better. We have Dragons in our narrative, ever hear of Saint George the Dragonslayer?
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Zark the Damned posted:We have Dragons in our narrative, ever hear of Saint George the Dragonslayer? I think you mean Georgon Drakebane, the Dragonfire Dragonkiller of Dragenhold. Roll a d6, if the result is below the number of dragons within 12'' Georgon Drakebane, the Dragonfire Dragonkiller of Dragenhold deals 2d3 mortal wounds to d3x2 enemy dragons.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Yeah, that's exactly why it breaks for GW games. Yup. But I do think GW has been going heavy on scenarios for AoS. Problem is why give a gently caress about any of them when they feel like random asspulls. They are not iconic, they are not renowned, and they feature the bastardized versions of your old favourites fighting for or against the ground marines.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:40
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And the rules are bad.
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Moola posted:keeps failing to use Harden tho 
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iirc the only time Harden can fail is when the Pokemon is already as "hard" as it can get  e: confusion and flinching aside, obviously, since those aren't really the move failing
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Mar 25, 2016 03:12
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are you claiming moola's metapod is confused about hardening? drat.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:are you claiming moola's metapod is confused about hardening? we're talking about my metapod, please pay attention glad to see people defending my metapod to moola's burn edit: trying to shame my metapod only causes it to harden even more, since that's the only thing it knows how to do
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Mar 25, 2016 06:34
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Please, this long into the thread and we all know your Metapod doesn't have enough PP to Harden again. Poor thing. 
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Syrnn posted:Please, this long into the thread and we all know your Metapod doesn't have enough PP to Harden again. Poor thing. i take it to your mother's pokecenter and it manages to perk right back up again edit: she also dresses up as a nurse and charges ₱200
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Mar 25, 2016 06:46
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she doesnt charge me e: or anyone else there
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Mar 25, 2016 07:15
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LOL at all the adults itt who know things about pokemon.
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Mar 25, 2016 07:33
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Leperflesh posted:LOL at all the adults itt who know things about pokemon. pokemon turned 20 years old last year
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Business Gorillas posted:pokemon turned 20 years old last year yeah, i mean I learned about harden and pp in high school which granted is only less embarrassing in a relative sense
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Mar 25, 2016 07:35
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upon being an adult i forgot all things of my childhood, such as Ioz being the best pirate on the show, most of the mnemonics i learned in math courses, and the time i genuinely believed i could achieve whatever i wanted to in life
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the ₱ is apparently the symbol for the Filipino peso, which i learned tonight take from that what you will wrt syrnn's mother being a prostitute
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Mar 25, 2016 07:42
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Business Gorillas posted:pokemon turned 20 years old last year lol at everyone in the thread younger than me which is nearly everyone lol at all of you basically Tiler Kiwi posted:upon being an adult i forgot all things of my childhood, such as Ioz being the best pirate on the show, most of the mnemonics i learned in math courses, and the time i genuinely believed i could achieve whatever i wanted to in life Also this
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In a thread for adults playing with dollies none the least.
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Mar 25, 2016 08:08
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I actually don't play Pokemon and never really enjoyed it
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Leperflesh posted:lol at everyone in the thread younger than me
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In the dark Baby Boomer future millennials will be harvested for their youth granting pineal secretions so maybe not.
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Ashcans posted:'Hahaha I'm older than you' only really works until you're 25, maybe, and after that you're just reassuring everyone that they'll outlive you. Have you seen a typical goon diet? I'm going to out live at least half the fuckers on this site and I'm middle aged.
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I ate fishsticks and chicken nuggets yesterday. I'm going to die before fellow poster who I love-hate due to his enjoyable posts and views on anime, Leper flesh.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:38
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lol if you're not already posting from the grave
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Mar 25, 2016 15:57
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ro5s posted:lol if you're not already posting from the grave
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ro5s posted:lol if you're not already posting from the grave Seems apt considering which thread this post is in. Also walking stick crew reporting in.
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Leperflesh posted:LOL at all the adults itt who know things about pokemon. lol at anyone who knows things about pokemon. that game was so boring that, despite it being literally the only game boy game i had for about a year, i still couldn't bring myself to finish it the only good pokemon game is pokemon snap
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The pokewalker was the best part about pokemon and I'm sad they didn't rerelease it. I would go running with that thing. Heck, I might just use it while lifting and have Machop get stronger with me. Or somehow use it while boxing and raise a Hitmonchan in there.
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Chill la Chill posted:The pokewalker was the best part about pokemon and I'm sad they didn't rerelease it. I would go running with that thing. Heck, I might just use it while lifting and have Machop get stronger with me. Or somehow use it while boxing and raise a Hitmonchan in there. for realz i've considered making a "bodybuilding simulator" game where you have your little guy drink protein shakes and get buff and keep a budget for body oil for competitions, plus in-game bonuses for hooking up a real-life calorie counter/workout log to it
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Make them level up into one-punch man or a super saiyan that you can then fight against other people. Avatar gets injured, so you hit the gym to get them strong again. Swipe action for body oil application. Gold mine. It'll be just like age of sigmar except kneeling's good. 
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