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I feel like I'm going to eventually want more than the 3 boxes of this I am getting.
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If anything the removal is better in SoI than other recent sets.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:05
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I really love how they've played around with double faced cards, now that the mechanic comes for the second round. Really cool ways of using that design space, beyond just having creature transforming to creature. Accursed Witch, Skin Invasion, Autumnal Gloom, Harvest Hand, Westvale Abbey...
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Mar 25, 2016 22:21
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Lunsku posted:I really love how they've played around with double faced cards, now that the mechanic comes for the second round. Really cool ways of using that design space, beyond just having creature transforming to creature. Accursed Witch, Skin Invasion, Autumnal Gloom, Harvest Hand, Westvale Abbey... I think my favorite transform cards are the Geier Reach Bandit and Skin Invasion. So good.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:36
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so no vanilla mythic after all huh
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Mar 25, 2016 22:48
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Dungeon Ecology posted:
That's a neat design. Whenever you decide to take the turn off to flip it, your opponent can't stop it from happening unless they let you draw a card.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:57
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minoru suzuki posted:so no vanilla mythic after all huh All we know is that the vanilla mythic is in a set they have at least begun work on. There was nothing indicating it would be in SoI specifically.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:02
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I'm on the MTGO Beta right now and I'm trying to build RG Werewolves with Collected Company. So far all I've got is Village Messenger, Geier Reach Bandit, Hermit, and CoCos. Brewing is hard.  Edit: I want to run Scourge Wolf so bad and yet it feels like it won't fit the bill on what I want this deck to do. Also, I don't think I'll actually accomplish Delirium, as all I'm running is Creatures, lands, and Instants so far. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Mar 25, 2016 23:13
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Yeah I just guessed it might be the toad and was wrong.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:13
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Entropic posted:That's a neat design. Whenever you decide to take the turn off to flip it, your opponent can't stop it from happening unless they let you draw a card. What? They just kill it on their turn or in response to the flip trigger.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:22
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suicidesteve posted:What? They just kill it on their turn or in response to the flip trigger. If they kill it on your end step then they cast a spell on your turn and you get to draw a card Killing it on their turn works regardless of whether it is flipped or not, of course
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Mar 25, 2016 23:25
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Count Bleck posted:I'm on the MTGO Beta right now and I'm trying to build RG Werewolves with Collected Company.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:31
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odiv posted:Mana dorks? You mean that one mana dork for 2 mana?
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Mar 25, 2016 23:32
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dragon enthusiast posted:Does it seem like there's a higher concentration of enchantments than normal in SOI? Sure there's the "enable delirium everyday" thing, but could it be hints to the next block? That would explain the enchantment density in RTR. Which is to say 4/5 as many as Innistrad.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:34
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BizarroAzrael posted:Alucard's dad looks a bit familiar. Dunno why people keep thinking BW for Westvale Abbey, other than the fact that the tokens it makes are BW (which is a bad reason). GW and RW are both better token decks right now.
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Oh yeah, poo poo, what do we even have left for mana dorks? 1 mana: Honored Hierarch (too much work) Gnarlroot Trapper (Elves only) 2 mana: Leaf Gilder Beastcaller Savant (creatures only) 3 mana: Shaman of Forgotten Ways (creatures only) Lifespring Druid What else? I guess there's that 2 mana enchantment they just spoiled. I miss you, Elvish Mystic.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:41
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odiv posted:Oh yeah, poo poo, what do we even have left for mana dorks? Death cap Cultivator in SOI
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Balon posted:Death cap Cultivator in SOI also the lovely 1 drop which has T, tap another dude: make mana, also in SoI
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Snacksmaniac posted:Where'd that drat image go? Post the image at the top of the OP.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:46
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I wish I could empty quote the last five pages of spoilers, holy gently caress. Innistrad all day.
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Innistrad is rad.
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Kuiperdolin posted:Innistrad is rad. Innistrad: Rad, innit?
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Random thoughts on individual cards: - I'm going to brew a Molten Vortex/Crawling Sensation deck and lose a lot of games with it - The guy on Malevolent Whispers is Mitt Romney - Geistflame is sweet and I hope it enables a cool combo deck - Bloodmad Vampire definitely inspires a powerful bloodlust in me, I will probably draft it a lot - Liliana's Indignation is actually kindof an uncommon fireball if you have 20 creatures, and milling is a big upside - Gryph's Boon actually seems really good to me. Make something into a flying threat for cheap, and keep getting it back if your opponent can answer your creature. I'm not sure how 1 mana flying auras stack up, historically - The vampire on Alms of the Vein looks Japanese-themed. Did she dress up as a Kamigawan for a ball or something, that would be rad
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mcmagic posted:I really like this card. Easy no 1 pick I agree and glad that it's at uncommon rather then Isolation Zone common.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:56
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Some higher level thoughts: - There are a lot of creatures that do stuff from the graveyard, enough that they could have easily made it a keyword. Interestingly the fact that they didn't left them with more flexibility. They probably wouldn't have been able to do both 'bring this creature back from the graveyard by discarding cards' and 'exile this creature for tokens' in the same set if they did. - There are a lot of really cool and/or powerful uncommons. This seems very good for constructed, it should allow for interesting and cheap decks. However it does concern me that maybe the limited format will be plagued with unbeatable uncommon bombs, or unplayable buildaround cards. I hope it was playtested well because the set clearly has a lot of cool ideas. - There are a suspicious number of cards that put things on the bottom of your library. I am therefore going to guess that EDM will have a 'bottom of your library' theme, which could include a heavy emphasis on scrying, reverse scrying, drawing from the bottom of your deck or outright turning your deck upside down. This theme would represent insanity pretty well, I think.
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Mar 26, 2016 01:02
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Oh man this set is bosssssss Can't wait for LSV and Marshals set review for Luis so gush over the lack of flavour fails.
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The bottom of library stuff could also be to avoid indirectly feeding Eldrazi processors by exiling.
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There's also the sorceries that put themselves on the bottom rather than going to the graveyard, though. That clause seems pretty baffling right now.
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From Stoddard's article:quote:Speaking of graveyard-related stuff, I've seen a lot of people complain that there aren't any great answers for Rally the Ancestors in Battle for Zendikar block—and that's true. Rally was a deck that was stronger than we were expecting for a number of reasons, but part of it was that we didn't have the usual spread of hate cards for the deck in the environment because Shadows was going to be the next set. We knew from...well, from the last time we went to Innistrad that when we went back it would be a graveyard block. Part of getting sets to work when they come out is making sure the environment isn't too hostile toward them. If there was a lot of strong graveyard hate in Battle for Zendikar block, we would need to power creep the graveyard stuff in Shadows to really make the Standard environment feel like Innistrad. That would then cause a ton of problems later when we try to get the fall large set to shake up Standard. There's no graveyard hate at all in this set.
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Symphonie posted:Dunno why people keep thinking BW for Westvale Abbey, other than the fact that the tokens it makes are BW (which is a bad reason). GW and RW are both better token decks right now. Was looking at mono white, but black has Nantuko Husk and Zulaport Cutthroat.
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Mar 26, 2016 01:44
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I mean the only realistic enabler is Secure the Wastes so just make sure you play white.
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The only disappointment is that there is no "when you control x clues, you win" card. Still might goof around and make a deck using the enchantment that mills 3 when you crack a clue, call it Blues Clues.
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Mar 26, 2016 03:23
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Fingers McLongDong posted:call it Blues Clues. haha, nice
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Mar 26, 2016 03:32
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Dungeon Ecology posted:
Might be playable in Bogles for Modern, but I think Bogles isnt a deck that can usually take a turn off to fetch. Also I've been playing around with Sealed Pools in some generators. It looks like Delirium is gonna be a big trap in Sealed unless your pool REALLY cooperates, and your gonna be 2 colors unless you play green (though this is usually tree in Sealed).
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Gryff's Boon is the card that stands out to me more for boggles. Less power than Rancor but the evasion is pretty strong. The activated ability may very rarely come up too. I think it's at least worth testing.
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Mar 26, 2016 03:46
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Dungeon Ecology posted:
I get another tutor for my Jor Kadeen deck. Baller.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:The only disappointment is that there is no "when you control x clues, you win" card. Still might goof around and make a deck using the enchantment that mills 3 when you crack a clue, call it Blues Clues. Hey, you win next set.
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Mar 26, 2016 04:46
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So apparently Maro has responded to the reaction to his blogatog comment. I actually sympathize to be honest.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:The only disappointment is that there is no "when you control x clues, you win" card. Still might goof around and make a deck using the enchantment that mills 3 when you crack a clue, call it Blues Clues. People keep saying this and it's dumb. Clues are useless if you don't use them. Encouraging people to investigate and not actually use the tokens would be retarded, which I guess is why everyone is convinced it's going to happen
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