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Freaksaus
Jun 13, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Steelion posted:

You missed one :colbert:

e: If he's making that much pale ale I don't think that crop space is a concern for him.

Yeah, it was more of a realization that I now have to spend quite some time collecting all these jams and ales.

I also can't wait till it's fall so I can fix the layout, my crops and producre slowly moved towards each other and not it just looks bad :(

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Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

MisterBibs posted:

Pulled the trigger on the game and I'm enjoying it so far, but one thing I'm concerned about since I'm basically going in blind: am I hurting myself down the line by taking a pickaxe/axe/whatever to pretty much everything on my farm, cleaning it up from its initial mess? From the little Steam video I know there's ~something~ you eventually put on trees to get ~something~ (sap, I'm guessing), so I'm just worried if there's some thing down the line that I'm going to miss out on by clear-cutting.
You'd miss nothing at all except slightly easier access to the resources trees provide(which you'll have plenty of by the time you manage to clearcut your farm forest). Chop away!

Oxyclean posted:

You can put tappers on trees and there's three different trees and each gives a different resource via tappers - oak resin and maple syrup in particular are useful since they let you make kegs and beehives.
You can put them on trees outside of your farm too, and they produce infrequently enough that it's not a hassle.

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois

Steelion posted:

You missed one :colbert:

e: If he's making that much pale ale I don't think that crop space is a concern for him.

Go big or go home:



:shepicide:

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
Demetrius is now my sworn enemy :mad:
Not because of how weird he was in Maru's 2 heart event and I'm going after her or anything. This rear end in a top hat said my pale ale was only "decent", what a fucker!
Leah and Pam, now those two can appreciate the complexities of the perfect product my farm produces.

Steelion
Aug 2, 2009

Buckets posted:

Demetrius is now my sworn enemy :mad:
Not because of how weird he was in Maru's 2 heart event and I'm going after her or anything. This rear end in a top hat said my pale ale was only "decent", what a fucker!
Leah and Pam, now those two can appreciate the complexities of the perfect product my farm produces.

He probably only drinks triple IPAs or something.

E: X-tuple IPAs or bud light, either extreme is fine

Steelion fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Mar 28, 2016

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


What was Pierre's secret stash supposed to be?

Went to check the wiki to check that event, apparently you lose 2 hearts with him if you tell him you won't keep the secret. Didn't know losing hearts was a thing.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
It's in a bookshelf, so almost certainly porn.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
People think it's weed but I don't think his wife would care that much if it is weed, imo.

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

flesh dance posted:

Thanks, that could've turned into a widescale disaster. :)

Yeah, Trellises should basically only go in a straight line with clear access to them. I made this same mistake before, and hopefully I'll never make it again now that I'm manually planting them with my mouse, rather than holding down the plant button on my controller while running through my fields.

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
I went into this game having only played the snes and n64 harvest moons so all my first crops were planted in an H pattern because I thought I wouldn't be able to walk through any of them. Pleasantly surprised that was not the case.

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
Wait, an H pattern? So 7 seeds per 3x3 tile field?

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
Seriously. Everyone knows you need to plant in a fat C pattern instead. You squeeze out one more crop that way! :colbert:

Later Harvest Moons let you walk through crops, and I'm grateful SV took that design cue instead of the older one.

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
yeah, a second after posting I was like, "wait, that was sacrificing 2 crops for one..." habits die hard and I was not a smart child.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Haifisch posted:

Seriously. Everyone knows you need to plant in a fat C pattern instead. You squeeze out one more crop that way! :colbert:

Skinny C to maximize time efficiency :colbert:

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


lol if you don't just plant your hops in one long row around your entire farm

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
You can harvest anything in the 8 tiles surrounding the one you're on, so as long as you have at least diagonal access, you can get to all of them.



I go to deliver my wife a birthday present and what does her snotty little student say?



I won't. I'll just tell everyone you must have run away.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

MisterBibs posted:

Pulled the trigger on the game and I'm enjoying it so far, but one thing I'm concerned about since I'm basically going in blind: am I hurting myself down the line by taking a pickaxe/axe/whatever to pretty much everything on my farm, cleaning it up from its initial mess? From the little Steam video I know there's ~something~ you eventually put on trees to get ~something~ (sap, I'm guessing), so I'm just worried if there's some thing down the line that I'm going to miss out on by clear-cutting.

The two main pitfalls with clearing your farm early are:
1. It's a significant effort for marginal benefit because the starting tools and your proficiencies suck. Better to spend that time making money/working on your skills.
2. You're gimping yourself on wood. The sooner you clear out your farm of trees, the faster your wood source dries up. Cut what you need and then cut a buffer zone for the first three seasons before clearing out grown trees in the winter. This got me about 7-8k wood and I haven't touched a single tree outside of my farm (except to tap and I've got a section of my farm set up to move those taps home.)

There's nothing you'll miss out on clear cutting. You're just making things harder on yourself by doing so. Clear what you need, keep a buffer zone for when you need to expand/the seasons turn over and you'll be good. Use Winter to do some serious farm planning for the next year.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
So I've been using the Scout->Desperado specialization for a while now and frankly it's not very good. Even with the 10% crit ring you don't crit often enough for the 1-hit kills to be very noticable. I'd rather have the extra 40 health from the other specialization.

EponymousMrYar posted:

2. You're gimping yourself on wood. The sooner you clear out your farm of trees, the faster your wood source dries up. Cut what you need and then cut a buffer zone for the first three seasons before clearing out grown trees in the winter. This got me about 7-8k wood and I haven't touched a single tree outside of my farm (except to tap and I've got a section of my farm set up to move those taps home.)

Wait, what? It doesn't make a difference whether you harvest the trees now or later. In fact cutting them down lets new trees grow. Also trees outside your farm seem to grow a lot faster. It might be a good idea to only cut down as much wood as you need for now since you don't have much to do in winter anyway though.

RatHat fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Mar 28, 2016

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

RatHat posted:

Wait, what? It doesn't make a difference whether you harvest the trees now or later. In fact cutting them down lets new trees grow. Also trees outside your farm seem to grow a lot faster. It might be a good idea to only cut down as much wood as you need for now since you don't have much to do in winter anyway though.
It does if you cut down the saplings and pull the seeds out of the dirt to completely clean your farm out :v:
But yeah, I cut down what I needed and made two buffer zones, one around what I was using and one around the farm edge so I could get everywhere decently easy, then just occasionally cut grown trees down whenever I needed some more wood.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

RatHat posted:

Wait, what? It doesn't make a difference whether you harvest the trees now or later. In fact cutting them down lets new trees grow. Also trees outside your farm seem to grow a lot faster.

On your farm, the way it basically works is that wild trees will jizz out a baby tree in their 8-square reach every so often. Baby trees will also be jizzed out at random places as a matter of course, but this is much slower than adult trees jizzing out babies. Overharvesting trees therefore leads to fewer trees being jizzed out, and less wood overall.

Until you are ready to take an area and plant it or build on it, you should basically cut down adult trees as needed, and leave baby trees the hell alone unless they're directly in your way. This is similar to the way you should leave grass the hell alone unless it is in your way (or it's about to click over to winter).

Weeds and stones should be cleared aggressively, though, since they don't reproduce in the same way and you can get mixed seeds from weeds and coal from stones.

The biggest note, however, is exactly what Yar said - it's just not a productive use of your energy. Any early energy you spend clearing your farm would have been better spent planting and watering more potatoes, blueberries, or hops. This doesn't change until at least 250k earn.

HardKase
Jul 15, 2007
TASTY
I'm confused. Why can't I stop playing this game?

I just need to finish one more bundle, or get a couple more metal bars

Now I'm building beehives and a chicken coop and planting trees and how did it come to this?

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.
Clear cutting your farm early isn't bad, it's just also not a good use of your time, as mostly stated. You spend a poo poo load of time cracking rocks and cutting trees that could be spent fishing or in the mines, 2 things that can be extremely useful the first 2 seasons to get the ball rolling. Also, The starter tools are actually really loving slow for cutting trees down, the gold/iridium when you get there can do it in like 3/4 swings instead of 8-12.

If you really need something else to do in the first couple seasons while your farm is small and funds are low, go into the mines and go as far as possible. Getting the mine bundle reward unlocked early and having iron/gold earlier will make a huge difference.

With the changes they made to kegs, running out of wood really isn't going to be a problem for you, at least not a serious one.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
Ugh, I kinda wish this game had a manual save option. Died in the mines and lost too much progress, so I reverted to the beginning of the day... and now its time to go to bed and I wish I could rewater my plants :(

Otherwise digging this game. It hits the creation-without-worrying-about-combat problem I have with a lot of Minecraft-ish games.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Kyrosiris posted:

Yeah, I don't think in-law interactions are a thing yet. Hopefully in the next marriage-improving patch.
They definitely added something, since now Pam says "You best take good care of Penny. She's all I got." Never saw her say that before.

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
the 1.07 patch is in beta apparently, the patch notes on reddit say it adds in-law dialogue.
Also fruit on trees can now ripen for better star quality, cool stuff.
edit: or maybe not the fruit but as the tree gets older?

Buckets fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Mar 28, 2016

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Captain Invictus posted:

Once I get married, am I unable to go past 8 hearts with anyone who is single? Seems like a poor decision imo since you can reach 10 hearts with anyone not single. Especially since I guess that denies me a whole lot of cutscenes.

I could have sworn someone said you could, but it's sure not working for me.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Captain Invictus posted:

Once I get married, am I unable to go past 8 hearts with anyone who is single? Seems like a poor decision imo since you can reach 10 hearts with anyone not single. Especially since I guess that denies me a whole lot of cutscenes.

You're not supposed to be able to get past 8 hearts with single characters without giving them the bouquet first, that's why all the 10 heart events assume you're romantically pursuing them. You can get past 8 hearts if you give them a loved gift on their birthday that brings them right from 7 to 9 to bypass the "stop gaining hearts" trigger.

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


MisterBibs posted:

Ugh, I kinda wish this game had a manual save option. Died in the mines and lost too much progress, so I reverted to the beginning of the day... and now its time to go to bed and I wish I could rewater my plants :(

Otherwise digging this game. It hits the creation-without-worrying-about-combat problem I have with a lot of Minecraft-ish games.

That's what happened to me last night. It was 1 AM and I died second time in the Skull cave, but that time I only lost one item (how random is that) and after making sure it wasn't anything important, I just gave up and finished the day. Those drat serpents are a real pain when they gang up on you, it seems like one of them always manages to sneak an attack in even though I'm trying to time my slashes as accurately as I can. Didn't even get any iridium, and I need like one ore to get my Iridium pickaxe.

I've been using the bars so far on a few sprinklers, because they make life so much easier, although I kinda wish I knew earlier that a certain someone Krobus sells them for 10 gold on fridays (?).

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Captain Invictus posted:

They definitely added something, since now Pam says "You best take good care of Penny. She's all I got." Never saw her say that before.
I'm pretty sure I saw her say that shortly after I started dating Penny, before 1.06.

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Azazell0 posted:

I've been using the bars so far on a few sprinklers, because they make life so much easier, although I kinda wish I knew earlier that a certain someone Krobus sells them for 10 gold on fridays (?).

Yes, but for 10k gold.

E: I just don't want people thinking there's a place to get them dirt cheap. Though by the time you get a winery up and running, 10k gold might as well be 10.

Godlessdonut fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Mar 28, 2016

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.
Finally stopped being lazy and slogged through a couple days waiting for a rabbits foot to finish the community center and I am glad I did because that was real neat.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Those Juminos are scam artists. They start reasonable, but ramp their requests up slowly and hope you don't notice.

"Stuff you just pick up off the ground." Cool, that seems reasonable.
"Stuff you grow on the farm." Okay, sure.
"Stuff you pick up in the mine." Well, some of that was hard to get but okay.
"42,500 gold." Uhhh- you just got greedy, guys.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
The vault was the easiest, come on man that's just like one round of cranberries.

Wee Bairns
Feb 10, 2004

Jack Tripper's wingman.

This may have been answered already and I might have missed it....if I plant trees in the greenhouse, will they produce fruit all year, continuously, upon reaching maturation?

Jesto
Dec 22, 2004

Balls.
Nevermind

Jesto fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Jul 14, 2017

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Wee Bairns posted:

This may have been answered already and I might have missed it....if I plant trees in the greenhouse, will they produce fruit all year, continuously, upon reaching maturation?

Yes.

Greenhouse basically works by turning on the switch for growing for whatever is in it regardless of season.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
Honestly, I feel the greenhouse and super plants like ancient seed were a mistake. Even without it, you'll be done fishing/mining at the beginning of year two and all that's left is to poo poo out crops to meet grandpa's 1,000,000gold requirement.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
So Abigail sent me a letter asking me to meet her in her room after 8 PM, but the door's lock before then. Was this letter just for flavor or is it a hint at her next scene?

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging
You should be able to creepily wander into her room at any time if you're at two hearts or higher with her.

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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
You can walk into the store after 8. I think except Wednesdays tho cause it's locked all day?

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