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Huh, apparently I'm in PV's newest Keep or Mull article on CFB. I'm the Living End player at the end. I mulled.
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Dehtraen posted:There is a Vs video behind the SCG paywall with Tom Ross running Arlinn Kord in a rg midrange build with hangar back, thopter engineer, mom & dad, sylvan advocates, with bfz nissa and Chandra. Arlinn Kord looked great in that deck, flip side plus was pretty much game over each time Can someone post the decklist?
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Dehtraen posted:There is a Vs video behind the SCG paywall with Tom Ross running Arlinn Kord in a rg midrange build with hangar back, thopter engineer, mom & dad, sylvan advocates, with bfz nissa and Chandra. Arlinn Kord looked great in that deck, flip side plus was pretty much game over each time Tom ross loves to go loving wide, that is for sure.
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http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11976&d=268607&f=VI
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i mean i guess 3 spells takes it out of bolt range but it really just seems like a worse Monastery Mentor
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Doesn't lose counters. Counts both sides. Sick as hell.
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Mar 29, 2016 04:21
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Yeah this is one of the cooler fringe decks. Miracle Gro lives again!
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Telex posted:you know approximately zero people are going to treat you seriously if you're using gay and retarded as pejoratives right? This is the sort of thing a gay retard would say though...
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Dehtraen posted:There is a Vs video behind the SCG paywall with Tom Ross running Arlinn Kord in a rg midrange build with hangar back, thopter engineer, mom & dad, sylvan advocates, with bfz nissa and Chandra. Arlinn Kord looked great in that deck, flip side plus was pretty much game over each time This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of building and I'm slightly tempted to get SCG premium to watch it.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Can someone post the decklist? Creatures (18) 4 Hangarback Walker 2 Den Protector 4 Sylvan Advocate 4 Thopter Engineer 2 Nissa, Vastwood Seer 2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar Planeswalkers (9) 4 Arlinn Kord 2 Chandra, Flamecaller 3 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar Lands (25) 7 Forest 6 Mountain 4 Cinder Glade 1 Foundry of the Consuls 4 Game Trail 2 Timber Gorge 1 Westvale Abbey Spells (7) 1 Outnumber 2 Oath of Chandra 2 Oath of Nissa 2 Roast Sideboard 1 Den Protector 4 Goldnight Castigator 2 Ulvenwald Mysteries 2 Plummet 2 Boiling Earth 2 Burn from Within 2 Roast
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mandatory lesbian posted:i mean i guess 3 spells takes it out of bolt range but it really just seems like a worse Monastery Mentor Technically, two spells, if you don't count the bolt.
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Just in case anyone is worried about a bunch of doofuses funding that coverage kickstarter for GP Minn, it is almost certainly not going to happen. Kickstarters that succeed generally make the majority of the money within the first 72 hour or so roughly. They have brought in so little, they'll need to quintuple the average daily take for the remaining 26 days to get there. Which won't happen. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ggslive/mtg-grand-prix-minneapolis-live-streaming-coverage/ Neat website to analyze kickstarters, they estimate it won't even get to 1/4 of the $20k.
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Abhorrence posted:Technically, two spells, if you don't count the bolt. yeah, and to be fair 2 spells in vintage isn't hard at all, I still like Mentor more tho cause if that gets Plowed then at least you have tokens left over
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suicidesteve posted:Yeah this is one of the cooler fringe decks. Miracle Gro lives again! Oh man you're right! Now I'm super pumped and am going to put it together.
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Hydra seems pretty inferior to the old Quirion Dryad tho...
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Hydra seems pretty inferior to the old Quirion Dryad tho... Hydra has trample and counts both players' spells, so no?
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whydirt posted:Hydra has trample and counts both players' spells, so no? Yea and dodges Spell Snare. Value!
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whydirt posted:Hydra has trample and counts both players' spells, so no? It also keys off of green spells (which in this list is only other Managorger Hydras and SB Nature's Claim, but still) and, more importantly for a Powered list, artifacts.
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Managorger Hydra seems sweet in the Ravager Shops matchup, since if you cast the Hydra early enough your opponent simply can't attack into it or remove it. It's embarrassing against any deck with Swords to Plowshares or Abrupt Decay, but point removal is not a priority in Vintage anyway.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Hydra seems pretty inferior to the old Quirion Dryad tho... Quirion dryad doesnt trigger off moxes
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/magic-online-prereleases-reimagined-2016-03-29 MTGO prereleases are now normal sealed leagues (with a bonus foil rare/mythic) and swiss drafts. This is a big upgrade from the dumpster-tier queues they had before.
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sarmhan posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/magic-online-prereleases-reimagined-2016-03-29 On the other hand it looks to me like they're axing release sealed events completely, and those were generally among the "best" value limited you could play as far as entry cost to prizes was considered. Just the sealed league now. (Edit: PTQ preliminaries and like obviously still are easily the best to my understanding.) Lunsku fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Quirion dryad doesnt trigger off moxes Fair enough, I hadn't considered that. My experience playing against Miracle Gro was that the dryad gets very big very fast and the difference between a 7/7 and an 11/11 wasn't that much, or at least not enough to warrant a higher mana cost.
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JerryLee posted:If this thread had been around 16 years ago, we'd have seen this with Blastoderm. There's nothing new under the sun. Same but 21 years and Necropotence aka the worst card in ice age according to InQuest
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Fair enough, I hadn't considered that. My experience playing against Miracle Gro was that the dryad gets very big very fast and the difference between a 7/7 and an 11/11 wasn't that much, or at least not enough to warrant a higher mana cost. Yeah its one of those things you just dont consider. Its the same reason why Mentor is played over Young peezy in vintage. Its a strange format.
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Zoness posted:Same but 21 years and Necropotence aka the worst card in ice age according to InQuest Does anyone have access to a scan or transcript of that article? I'd be curious to see how they articulated it, especially given that my understanding is terms like card advantage and tempo weren't really codified back then.
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How do Madness cards interact with Necropotence anyway? It sounds like Madness, which replaces discard to the yard with discard to exile, interrupts Necropotence's discard effect (when you discard, exile the card from the yard) so a Madness card, regardless of if it's cast, will land in the graveyard. Not a big deal outside of EDH I know but I play Necropotence and could possibly add madness spells.
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BizarroAzrael posted:How do Madness cards interact with Necropotence anyway? It sounds like Madness, which replaces discard to the yard with discard to exile, interrupts Necropotence's discard effect (when you discard, exile the card from the yard) so a Madness card, regardless of if it's cast, will land in the graveyard. Yes, that's how it works. When you discard a card Necropotence triggers, but Madness's replacement effect happens and moves the card into exile (which triggers Madness's ability to let you cast it). When the Necropotence trigger resolves it is no longer the same object as it has moved zones so it is not exiled.
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Surprised that someone went with the full 4 but Managorger Hydra was definitely one of the cards Menendian's podcast pointed out as having Vintage potential during his set review for ORI. It's a lot more threatening than Goyf or Quirion Dryad since it has trample naturally and grows much faster, it's just really overshadowed by Mentor since Mentor doesn't die to 1 removal spell.
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where my portland goons at? where u gonna do prerelease? im not going to Guardian, shits too hairy. Any other recommendations? thinking Red Castle atm
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Why does the green gush deck not have a fastbond in it?
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mehall posted:Why does the green gush deck not have a fastbond in it? Replaced it with a bulk-bin core set rare
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Dungeon Ecology posted:where my portland goons at? where u gonna do prerelease? im not going to Guardian, shits too hairy. Any other recommendations? thinking Red Castle atm What makes a lgs too hairy?
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Sickening posted:What makes a lgs too hairy? weird layout they always jam-pack that place and it gets greasy and stinky up in there. staff is overworked and disgruntled -- i mean theyre nice but they always seem like theyre doing too much work for their paygrade. theres so many people in there during prerelease i always feel like i have to clutch my deck or else someone will steal it.
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mehall posted:Why does the green gush deck not have a fastbond in it? the 4th Hydra is the one that kills you
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So what are everybody's thoughts on Heir of Falkenrath? It seems... insane, frankly. Instant speed discard trigger, relevant typing, given the relative power level of now-cards vs 2011-cards, this feels like it could be this format's Delver. One extra mana in exchange for more synergies and guaranteed transformation is a more than fair trade off. Also shout out to Autumnal Gloom, definitely think that guy is gonna be a standard player and the design and flavor is super sweet.
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stinkles1112 posted:So what are everybody's thoughts on Heir of Falkenrath? It seems... insane, frankly. Instant speed discard trigger, relevant typing, given the relative power level of now-cards vs 2011-cards, this feels like it could be this format's Delver. One extra mana in exchange for more synergies and guaranteed transformation is a more than fair trade off. It's very good. The problem is that I don't think the deck that it's going to go in is good.
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Sorry is this isn't the right thread for this but since I'm asking about things in the game involving popular decks and cards I hope it's applicable. I'm only a collector, I've played a little on the ipad games but that's about it, and I admit I am pretty ignorant on a lot of things, including the different things like legacy or standard and whatnot. I am not some scalper, more a hoarder who is getting overwhelmed with trying to sort things, but that's neither here nor there. I had pulled a Jace, Vryn's Prodigy (yay) when Origins came out - I have absurd luck with core sets it seems. I really want a Liliana of the Veil. I've seen how cards in the core sets go down once they cycle out (I had quite a few good cards in M15 which have now halved in price, at least). What is the expectation of the Jace card in the nearish future? Will it suddenly go down a bunch once it cycles out? In the meantime Liliana keeps rising in value - I wish I had bitten the bullet months ago and paid $60 or whatever it was. Before more time goes on, would it seem reasonable to try to sell the Jace (hoping I get 50-60 for it) and kick in the rest for the Liliana? I might even be able to scrounge together some duplicates of decent cards from Magic and other games to put more into it. If in 6 months Jace goes down to say 50 and Liliana is 150 or even more, it'll not be a good plan anymore, so I want to do it as soon as possible if I need to. I've pretty much never sold cards I have only one of, but am willing to do it in this case to get something I would prefer, you know? If on the other hand anyone thinks, well wait 6 months, Jace will be 150 and Liliana will still be 130 or whatever it is, then I'd wait and try to do a better trade, of course. I don't usually care about price other than grinning if I manage to get something good, I know I won't retire on this stuff, but this is unfortunately a case where I have to play the (financial) game to get what I want. It might all be a moot point if the shop I usually go to either doesn't want Jace or doesn't have Liliana, but I won't be there for a few days and any suggestions here may give me time to prepare (finding other cards to sell, etc).
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Bant Company and Esper Dragons are really strong still. I mean, until the pros just release whatever they're doing, everything is a brew (and probably will be jank in a month). I don't think I've lost a match with Dragons yet. Aggro is not very good and Midrange creatures aren't great so if you just mainboard multiple Languish you tend to win pretty much all of the time. Vampires seem pretty overrated and most of the time just scoop on the spot to Languish. There's a deck with 4 Cryptolith Rite and 4 Evolutionary Leap that just dumps a bunch of tokens and little guys (Blisterpods, Catacomb Sifter, Hangarback) onto the battlefield and then taps all of them to cast Ulamog, or sacs them for Ormendahl (you can tap a Scion for mana and then sac it for mana also, so you ramp really fast). The deck is a loving pain in the rear end to swing through without Mindwrack or something, but the issue it has is that it seems like just a bad token deck without Cryptolith Rite. mcmagic posted:It's very good. The problem is that I don't think the deck that it's going to go in is good. I don't claim to know what the meta will look like when the professional deck building teams come out with what they've cooked up but if you build a deck that just folds to Languish it seems like a bad idea. Jeffe posted:Sorry is this isn't the right thread for this but since I'm asking about things in the game involving popular decks and cards I hope it's applicable. I'm only a collector, I've played a little on the ipad games but that's about it, and I admit I am pretty ignorant on a lot of things, including the different things like legacy or standard and whatnot. I am not some scalper, more a hoarder who is getting overwhelmed with trying to sort things, but that's neither here nor there. I'm not a MTG Finance expert, but I do not think Jace will go to 150, I'd say he's probably on a downward trajectory. The best decks in the last standard were all Jace decks. I don't think that's likely in the new Standard and once he rotates out, there's no reason for demand to be so high since while he's a Modern playable card, he's certainly not a staple of the format. The caveat is that unlike Liliana of the Veil, they can't just print Jace, VP in anything at random because they don't print double sided cards as random promos. FWIW I don't think Liliana is all that likely to hit 150, either. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Bant Company and Esper Dragons are really strong still. I mean, until the pros just release whatever they're doing, everything is a brew (and probably will be jank in a month). I don't think I've lost a match with Dragons yet. Aggro is not very good and Midrange creatures aren't great so if you just mainboard multiple Languish you tend to win pretty much all of the time. Vampires seem pretty overrated and most of the time just scoop on the spot to Languish. Very much agree with you on Languish. Thats where you want to be. Is the mana good enough to play Bant anymore though? Thats my only issue with that deck.
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