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Main Paineframe posted:Asp Explorer, with an A-rated shield (which, so far, I have yet to regret). I've noticed it's got a decent number of weapon mounts, but it flies awfully enough that I can't imagine it's a decent dogfighter. That's why I'm wondering if turrets are at least usable - so I don't have to turn that loving whale of a ship all the way around to at least annoy AIs into "fight" mode rather than "chase" mode. Turrets on an asp would totally suck. Go with a gimballed laser/mc mixture. They're not as bad at dogfighting as you would think.
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Mar 28, 2016 13:43
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Annath posted:Like actually doing the missions? Or can you still abandon-sell-repeat with slaves? You can still just sell the slaves straight back to commodities market. I made around 250M yesterday with a 276 ton Python.
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Mar 28, 2016 14:28
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The A-rated combat fitted Asp Explorer can pitch perfectly well. Try 2 medium gimballed pulse lasers and 4 small gimballed cannons for when you just want to kill your NPC interdictors. It probably handles well enough to use entirely fixed weapons too, if that's your thing.
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Mar 28, 2016 15:42
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Zinjnok posted:You can still just sell the slaves straight back to commodities market. I made around 250M yesterday with a 276 ton Python. Is this doable with a lovely exploration Hauler if I fit some cargo holds? Obviously the earnings will be smaller at first, but I wanna print some money. Does it require rep/rank? Haven't played since before Horizons, so I apologise if this is common knowledge.
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Mar 28, 2016 16:39
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SplitSoul posted:
Yeah I also wouldn't mind a quick, "Here is what you do" post about this.
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Mar 28, 2016 17:03
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Zinjnok posted:You can still just sell the slaves straight back to commodities market. I made around 250M yesterday with a 276 ton Python. I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to this sort of thing - what's the best way to deal with all the fines you rack up while doing this?
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Mar 28, 2016 17:33
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Eryxias posted:Yeah I also wouldn't mind a quick, "Here is what you do" post about this. Plenty advice on these topics in the PGS thread. Also, join the frogs and ask in Discord. It's essentially step one for beating the game. The rest of the steps are "do what Kermit tells you".
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Mar 28, 2016 17:37
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Chalks posted:I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to this sort of thing - what's the best way to deal with all the fines you rack up while doing this? Never pay them and get the hell out of Dodge before a week your first fine. Wait two weeks as the dormant bounty quietly becomes a legacy fine. If you pissed off a faction or factions and made them hostile, their rep with you may naturally go back to be "unfriendly" Go back and repeat the whole thing over again  This works for now, but there's talk of the new mission system where having 'legacy fines' in the millions might come back to bite you in the rear end. Not likely tho. 
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SplitSoul posted:Is this doable with a lovely exploration Hauler if I fit some cargo holds? Obviously the earnings will be smaller at first, but I wanna print some money. Here is the writeup: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3740324&pagenumber=151&perpage=40#post455660832 You really need something with 150+ cargo that can land on a medium pad, so it pretty much requires a python. You might also need to do regular Robigo runs doing Shadow Deliveries first to get the CDE rep up.
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I think I've read somewhere that from a certain point onwards Elite won't support Oculus any longer (only Vive)? Were I high or it actually happened?
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That's really wrong. Elite is a launch title on the Oculus store. I'm using it in VR right now.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:43
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TomR posted:That's really wrong. Elite is a launch title on the Oculus store. I'm using it in VR right now. Trip report? VR is pretty high on my wishlist.
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I'm using it with my DK2 and it's really good. They added some timewarp technology and now I never get any judder, even when I have the graphics settings way too high. You can still tell it's not hitting the frame rate but the view doesn't jump around anymore. It's really smooth. If you had a consumer Rift it would be perfect. I have a GTX 970 because I'm sure someone will ask.
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froody guy posted:I think I've read somewhere that from a certain point onwards Elite won't support Oculus any longer (only Vive)? Were I high or it actually happened? They didn't keep up with Oculus updates after like 0.5 because they didn't want to have to keep loving with it for new versions, it's all cool now.
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RabidWeasel posted:They didn't keep up with Oculus updates after like 0.5 because they didn't want to have to keep loving with it for new versions, it's all cool now. So even in the future, full support for both Rift and Vive is granted?
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Mar 28, 2016 19:05
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froody guy posted:So even in the future, full support for both Rift and Vive is granted? This game is being sold on the dedicated Oculus store, I imagine they don't plan on dropping Rift support.
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Mar 28, 2016 19:13
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Tippis posted:How honest do you want to keep yourself? I am interested in your secret fuckery, even if Main Painframe isn't
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Mar 28, 2016 21:37
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lol if the Rift's flagship game decided "you know what, go gently caress yourselves" and went all in with Vive (which is extremely unlikely given Rift's market share)
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:I am interested in your secret fuckery, even if Main Painframe isn't Alt-tab and kill process whenever you get interdicted.
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Rectus posted:Here is the writeup: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3740324&pagenumber=151&perpage=40#post455660832 Okay, so it's impossible unless you're already suitably spacerich. That sucks.
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SplitSoul posted:Okay, so it's impossible unless you're already suitably spacerich. That sucks. Nah, I started Robigo with just enough money to buy an Asp, then when I made my first 100 million went and bought a Python. There are enough lower quantity missions that you can get a start with a smaller ship, so you should be able to get to a cargo fit ASP using an even smaller ship. You'll just have to be a little more patient finding the missions you can accept. You can even fill your hold piecemeal by accepting all of the Shadow Deliveries quests you can find, sell the slaves, then get scanned before the missions expire to get rid of them without a rep hit. There's probably faster ways to get the 6-7 million you need for a cargo Asp, but you could absolutely start with something smaller. The only difference more cargo means is more missions and higher returns.
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Just saw this on Reddit. 2 months out into the black, a brave pilot tries to buzz a canyon to show off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il75zE7wPeY It should properly be titled "what's an altimeter?".
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SplitSoul posted:Okay, so it's impossible unless you're already suitably spacerich. That sucks. Nah, it's not too hard. You can easily make 5 million or more even in a Cobra fitted for smuggling. The Asp is probably ideal for Robigo runs, and you can make several million more per run than the Cobra..
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tooterfish posted:Just saw this on Reddit. 2 months out into the black, a brave pilot tries to buzz a canyon to show off.  Possible alternate title “so what's the G stat on this rock, again?” It's only 0.3, but it looks like he's not getting the up-thrust he's expecting, which… ehrm… has been known to happen if you under-size your thrusters for exploration purposes. Not that I'd know that or anything.
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Tippis posted:
Yeah he came in far too steep for his puny thrusters. You really want better than Ds on medium+ ships.
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I splurged on some A grade thrusters compared to my C Thrusters for my FAS and drat what a difference even on a 0.11g world. I can only imagine how badly I will pancake with my bad habits on anything approaching a whole 1 G, where crashing to death would actually be a risk without turning of flight assist and pointing my nose straight down while hitting the boosters too long. Speaking of thruster control on planets, does anybody know offhand what ship has the greatest proportional thruster power? Even if it actually had some armor on it? Would that be the Imperial Courier? Also I'm only just now learning the iCourier has a lighter hull than an Eagle.
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tooterfish posted:Just saw this on Reddit. 2 months out into the black, a brave pilot tries to buzz a canyon to show off. Actually what he did was perfectly fine flying - for an Imperial Courier. The Asp Explorer has terrible braking and lateral control. It slides around at high speeds and is the most uncontrollable ship I've ever used when hitting boost. It has a longer braking distance under boost than even my Imperial Clipper, which has notoriously weak lateral thrusters. I'd never do a canyon run in one normally and I'd definitely not even consider it with what I assume was the lightest shield possible intended just for landings.
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Section Z posted:I splurged on some A grade thrusters compared to my C Thrusters for my FAS and drat what a difference even on a 0.11g world. I can only imagine how badly I will pancake with my bad habits on anything approaching a whole 1 G, where crashing to death would actually be a risk without turning of flight assist and pointing my nose straight down while hitting the boosters too long.
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DancingShade posted:Actually what he did was perfectly fine flying - for an Imperial Courier. Am I the only one who finds it so amusing that the Asp Explorer has terrible maneuvering when exploring in atmosphere? I wonder if the Diamondback Explorer fares much better there? Though to be fair, I suppose the term in ED was billed before in atmosphere was even A Thing. Plus it's better marketing to call them "Explorer", than "Long Distance" Astroniomix posted:Depending on the loadout it looks to be the iCourier with the vulture following a very close second. I loving love the Vulture more and more every day, and I'd still be flying it right now if not for wanting more internal space to go with with my Large Mounts and Outposts landing preferences. At least the FAS has been pretty nice so far though.
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He'd have been fine if he hadn't boosted straight down when he was only 900m high. Probably. Also, atmosphere... are you posting from the future? 
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Imperial courier actually doesn't have all that good lateral thrusters and will drift around quite a bit, especially under gravity. I'm 90% sure the vulture is better at that. Asp is funny though, especially with D thrusters. I bought one yesterday, slapped on D everything except power plant and FSD and it's absolutely hilarious how the thing will not turn. It spins around very quickly, especially in the blue zone where I think it'll spin way faster than its size should allow it to, but actually changing your velocity from top speed without boosting takes like 30 seconds. I avoid CFIT by boosting into the sky.
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Apparently Frontier gave him a new ship and teleported him back to where he was, 55,000LY out. It's supposed to be Elite Dangerous! 
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Well the 2 months of map data he was carrying is still gone, so there's that.
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Literally Kermit posted:Go to a system called LHS 20 which will have all you need. If it does not, nearby Borr will! Does this mean if I buy things here and sell them elsewhere I'll turn a 15% profit, or do they sell at cost anywhere?
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No, the sell price is set at what it cost you at the time you bought it AFAIK.
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I have tried the new Oculus runtime with DK2 in Elite. And it was good. Very good. loving good.
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Zinjnok posted:You can still just sell the slaves straight back to commodities market. I made around 250M yesterday with a 276 ton Python. I forgot to refit my Python before going to Robigo, so now I'm out there with a bunch of guns and only 128T of cargo space.
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Annath posted:I forgot to refit my Python before going to Robigo, so now I'm out there with a bunch of guns and only 128T of cargo space. You can get cargo racks at Takurua.
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