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Kafka Esq.: Jan 1, 2005; "If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Jim Hillyer died of a heart attack at 41. I'm going to the gym.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 10:45

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# ? May 15, 2024 09:22

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

a dead conservative is a good conservative

# ? Mar 29, 2016 11:32

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

I wonder why they didn't include the guy who's going to be the next leader on that list?

https://twitter.com/benmulroney/status/690219644465090560

# ? Mar 29, 2016 12:00

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

How much money would the federal government save by confiscating Ben Mulroney's lying shitbag father's assets? Not much, but it would be a good start.

Oh, while I was looking around for some properly scathing articles about Mulroney Sr, I found this nice headline about the RCMP:

RCMP Has Moved Beyond Harassment Issues posted:

OTTAWA -- Canada's top Mountie told the federal government last spring the RCMP had "moved beyond" internal issues of harassment and bullying through "concrete actions" that had fostered a more respectful workplace, newly disclosed records show.

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson advised Steven Blaney, public safety minister at the time, that the problems had taken up a great deal of time and energy since he took the helm of the national police force three-and-a-half years earlier.

"I am pleased to report that we have worked hard to understand the challenges, implement measures to improve our culture, and establish a system in which destructive or discriminatory behaviours are not tolerated," says Paulson's May letter, released under the Access to Information Act.

The Mounties followed up in September with a detailed progress report that concluded a "culture of respect has been woven into the RCMP" as a result of the various efforts on everything from recruitment and training to promotion and retention of staff, the access records show.

Recent headlines tell a different story.

Just last month, Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale expressed dismay over allegations of sexual harassment within the police force.

Goodale, who assumed the post in November following the Liberal election victory, demanded a plan to end "toxic workplace behaviour" after CBC News reported accusations of unwanted sexual touching, bullying and wanton nudity at the explosives training unit of the Canadian Police College in Ottawa.

In recent years, the RCMP has been shaken by complaints from women and men of harassment and bullying. A new law has streamlined the process for addressing conflict, giving supervisors more power to deal with disputes promptly, but some critics fear that has opened the door to abuses.

The letter to Blaney and the September progress report both paint a rosy picture of the RCMP's overall efforts to rid the force of oppressive behaviour and discrimination, based on 36 steps outlined in a 2013 plan.

In 2014, the RCMP received 120 complaints of workplace harassment, the second-lowest number since 2005 -- progress due in part to use of informal conflict resolution, Paulson's letter says.

Of these, 30 were deemed to be founded, representing just 0.1 per cent of RCMP employees, he writes. In addition, of all the harassment complaints made between February 2005 and October 2014, three per cent were related to alleged sexual wrongdoing, Paulson adds. "The numbers are low and decreasing with time."

The report cites several positive developments including:

A mandatory online "respectful workplace" course that focuses on building the skills and understanding needed to prevent inappropriate behaviour;
Establishment of local employee advisory committees to provide an unfiltered forum for discussion between senior management and staff on topics such as staffing, labour relations, diversity and improving communication;
Women making up almost one-third of the RCMP's senior executive committee.

In a foreword to the report, Paulson notes that a 2014 public service survey showed 80 per cent of RCMP employees believed the force was respectful, up from 76 per cent in 2011, while 78 per cent felt the police force respected individual differences, an increase from 67 per cent three years earlier.

"These results suggest that our focus should now shift towards a broader suite of tools and responsibilities to promote organizational health and inclusiveness," he writes.

For instance, the report says in a section called 2016 and Beyond, the RCMP recently launched a mental-health strategy and will soon be audited for compliance with the Official Languages Act. "We must continue to promote and maintain a diverse, inclusive and respectful workplace culture that promotes employee well-being."

Would it be overly cynical of me to suggest that the RCMP just found a brand new broom to sweep incidents under the rug, calling it :airquote:

informal conflict resolution :airquote:

?

Never mind that the Wikipedia doesn't have an article on the Nuttall/Korody fiasco to add to the list of RCMP controversies.

Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 12:30

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

quote:

Good Tuesday morning to you

For those of you heading back to work today, we hope the extra long weekend treated you well.

With his first budget now on the books, Finance Minister Bill Morneau is turning his attention to his next big task: enhancing the Canada Pension Plan. As he told CP�s Andy Blatchford, one�s ability to retire in dignity is often driven �partially by luck� � and when that luck falls on hard times, there�s a role for government to play.

As for those in the oil patch who are dealing with a stretch of hard luck and feeling the pain from low oil prices, Morneau has defended his decision to offer enhanced employment insurance benefits to some parts that have been affected, while leaving others out of the plan.

From where our L. Ian MacDonald sits, Morneau�s team had some fun with Liberals� first budget. Meanwhile, the Bank of Canada may start throwing its two cents worth into the mix and sharing its views on the impact it expects the budget to have on the economy and policy.

From budgets to breaks: Back from spending Easter on Fogo Island with his family, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is in Calgary today to take part in a roundtable on employment insurance and to visit the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology. Later this week he'll make his first visit to Nova Scotia since last fall�s election campaign, where he�s expected to put in an appearance at the provincial Liberal�s 2016 convention.

Amid an outbreak of skin conditions among children, pressure is mounting for governments to address the medical crisis on a northern Ontario reserve. An open letter penned by three physicians from the Weeneebayko Area Health Authority and released by MP Charlie Angus, is calling for more resources to deal with persistent problems at the Kashechewan First Nation and elsewhere. CP�s Kristy Kirkup has more.

For rookie MPs, it turns out going back to school isn�t so easy. Faced with a steep learning curve, new Liberal members who are trying to learn their way around House committees �want more formal training because they�re concerned opposition MPs will try to exploit their inexperience and embarrass them in front of stakeholders and Hill media.� But as the Hill Times reports, veteran MPs say class is over and it�s time to step up.

Did you know Erin O�Toole once played Kenickie in his school�s production of Grease? There was no room to showcase his Greased Lightning moves as the former veterans affairs minister took to the skies for some plane talk with Global�s Tom Clark, but he did sing. He also didn't rule out running for the Conservative leadership, although he�s not about to break out the chrome plated rods and burn up the quarter mile to the party�s helm just yet.

In Toronto, Rob Ford returned to city hall one last time on Monday. In contrast to the wilder time he spent there as mayor, often surrounded by a throng of media, yesterday was a much more solemn and subdued scene. He�ll lay in repose for two days to give mourners a chance to pay their respects. Mayor John Tory was first in line and a steady stream has passed through since, including the former high school football players Ford coached. The visitation continues today.

An autopsy has found that Conservative MP Jim Hillyer died of a heart attack. The 41-year-old was found at his desk in his Parliament Hill office last week.

Here and there:

Statistics Canada releases industrial product and raw materials price indexes for February and education indicators in Canada: An international perspective, 2015.
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan is visiting Australia and New Zealand until April 1 to meet with his defence counterparts

In Fredericton, a collection of business groups hold news conference to encourage the New Brunswick government to lift the moratorium on hydraulic fracturing.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau speaks at a luncheon hosted by the Chambre de commerce et d'industrie de la Rive-Sud where he�ll make an announcement and hold a media availability.

In Montreal, federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna makes an announcement about investments in Quebec canals and speaks to a foreign-affairs group.

In Ottawa, the Mackenzie Institute hosts Canada's Defence Perspectives 2020-2050: Recapitalization and the Canadian Forces. Keynote address by Hugh Segal, chair of the NATO Association of Canada and an evening keynote address by Lt.-Gen. Marquis Hainse, Commander, Canadian Army.

The University of Ottawa and The Hague Institute for Global Justice holds a conference on the role Canada can play on global issues. Speakers include Foreign Affairs Minister Stephane Dion and former prime minister Paul Martin.

The Rideau Institute and the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives present Gar Pardy, former director general of Consular Services, and his report Canadians Abroad: Legislative and Policy Alternatives.

Former prime minister Paul Martin gives a speech entitled �Strengthening the Multilateral Institutions: A G20 Priority� at the Canadian Club of Ottawa.
A panel of leading experts discuss urban terrorism, violent extremism and the internet: Shaping Canada's response. Appearing: Misha Glenny, former BBC reporter/author, Dr.
Robert Muggah, Brazil's Igarape Institute, and Shauna Coxon, Toronto Police Services. Moderated by Rafal Rohozinski, SecDev Foundation.

Canada's Veterans Ombudsman, Guy Parent, hosts a public town hall in Kingston for Veterans, military and RCMP members and families to hear about the issues that concern them.

There were some tense moments in Washington yesterday afternoon as reports surfaced of an �active shooter� on Capitol Hill. That prompted a lockdown of both the legislative complex and the White House before Capitol Police confirmed they had shot and wounded a lone gunman and the situation was under control. One female bystander sustained minor injuries. �There is no reason to believe that this was anything more than a criminal act,� said Capitol Hill Police Chief Matthew Verderosa.

The shooter was identified as Larry Dawson, who was arrested last fall after disrupting a House session and yelling he was a "Prophet of God."

It�s safe to assume Fidel Castro is probably off the White House�s Christmas card list. [url=http://ipolitics.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=294c506fbf8132b713e48388f&id=3f2c67364f&e=408233c140Clearly not ready to jump on board with Barack Obama�s efforts to bury Cold War hostilities, he�s penned a 1,500-word response to the president�s three-day visit last week[/url] that was published by state media. Entitled �Brother Obama,� Castro�s letter takes issue with the �honey-coated� sweet talk Obama shared while he was there. Castro also reminded Cubans of the many U.S. efforts to overthrow and weaken the communist government, noting: �We don't need the empire to give us anything.�

Not that Apple was offering it up, but the FBI says it no longer needs the tech giant�s help to break into the iPhone belonging to the San Bernardino shooter.

Finally this morning, call it an Easter miracle: Donald Trump met his match yesterday in a Wisconsin radio host. The interview made for a cringe-worthy 17-minute-long speed bump for the blustering billionaire on his road to the Republican nomination. Which brings us to the bird. Given Trump�s experience with an eagle in his office, if #BirdieSanders is any indication, it�s obvious who Mother Nature is endorsing in all of this.

With that, have yourself a great day.

____________________

International

EgyptAir MS181 flight hijacked, lands in Cyprus (CBC News)
Taliban faction taunts Pakistan PM after Easter Day bombing (Reuters)
Brazil minister quits before vote on Dilma Rousseff's coalition (BBC News)

National

Justin Trudeau�s Senate surrogate Peter Harder has few power levers (The Globe and Mail)
Ottawa to temporarily suspend controversial LIFO policy, sources say (CBC News)
Bill Morneau prepares to refocus on CPP expansion (Ottawa Sun)

Atlantic

Finance Minister Bill Morneau taking budget sales pitch to St. John's breakfast meeting (CBC News)

Ontario

Scores pay final respects as Rob Ford lies in repose at city hall (Canadian Press)

Prairies

Saskatchewan Election 2016: Advance polls open Tuesday (CBC News)
Candidates discuss LGBTTQ issues (Winnipeg Free Press)
ER wait times, ambulance fees discussed in health care debate (CBC News)

Alberta

Alberta MP who died in his office suffered heart attack; Ontario coroner (Canadian Press)

British Columbia

Pricey meetings with premier helping fuel B.C. Liberal fundraising machine (The Globe and Mail)

North

Nunavut MLA, Pauloosie Keyootak, among 3 missing on Baffin Island (CBC News)
Arctic sea ice at record winter low: monitoring agency (CBC News)

# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:24

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

You do remember that Trump was a media personality not known for racism and authoritarian leanings until 8-9 months ago right?

Lol if you don't think O'Leary is taking notes.

He sort of tipped his hand with the birthed nonsense, actually.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:33

Constant Hamprince: Oct 24, 2010; by exmarx; College Slice

Kafka Esq. posted:

Jim Hillyer died of a heart attack at 41. I'm going to the gym.

He wasn't overweight or anything, it was almost certainly a heart condition in which case exertion could actually make it worse.

RBC posted:

a dead conservative is a good conservative

Please, he had a family. *Sticks fifth ace into pocket and lights up steampunk cigar.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:34

brucio: Nov 22, 2004

Why does anyone, CPC or not, think Peter MacKay is remotely competent? His time in every ministry he held was unremarkable at best.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:14

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

brucio posted:

Why does anyone, CPC or not, think Peter MacKay is remotely competent? His time in every ministry he held was unremarkable at best.

Because he's not a fuckup, like his main competition all are.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:20

Seat Safety Switch: May 27, 2008; MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.; Pillbug

PT6A posted:

Because he's not a fuckup, like his main competition all are.

He's better than Bernier was at least, since MacKay didn't have a biker gang girlfriend looking through his files.

I'm surprised he wants the job, I figured he would have slunk away to Argentina or something.

e: gently caress, wrong girlfriend story

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:34

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

brucio posted:

Why does anyone, CPC or not, think Peter MacKay is remotely competent? His time in every ministry he held was unremarkable at best.

He was the leader of the PCs that merged with Harper's Canadian Alliance. If Jack Layton was as humble as Peter Mackay there never would have been a conservative majority.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

He let his biker gang girlfriend look at confidential defence files?

Wrong CPC leadership candidate

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:34

Seat Safety Switch: May 27, 2008; MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.; Pillbug

Oops. Now I'm surprised Bernier is running. I would have figured a lapse like that would have submarined his chances forever.

Then again, Tony Clement is there. His riding's gazebo must need a new coat of paint.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:40

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

The Manitoba Liberals released a 5 year financial plan outlining how they expect their budgets to run if elected. Apparently it was a poorly made spreadsheet missing a whole fiscal year with no lines showing how much their promises will cost going forward.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-liberals-release-budget-fiscal-plan-1.3509283

# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:06

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

OLP caught in lie about heinous allegations regarding "shower" prison cells.

quote:

Ontario�s jails don�t stash inmates in damp, smelly showers and they�re going to stop doing it immediately, says Provincial Community Safety and Correctional Services Minister Yasir Naqvi.

The Ottawa Centre MPP made a humiliating climbdown on Saturday after having called both Ontario�s top public-service union leader and his ministry�s New Democrat critic liars over claims that the Ottawa-Carleton Detention Centre made inmates sleep in shower rooms because there wasn�t space for them in proper cells.

Ontario Public Service Employees Union president Warren (Smokey) Thomas emerged from a tour of the jail on Innes Road in February appalled by the practice. Naqvi responded by saying directly that Thomas was speaking falsely. Then New Democrat community-safety critic Jennifer French took a tour of her own and reported the same thing. They both said they�d seen the shower-room beds with their own eyes.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/david-reevely-yasir-naqvis-credibility-on-jail-reform-in-pieces-after-shower-cell-admission

Edit: Lots of OLP news today

quote:

Kathleen Wynne�s Liberals will rake in roughly $3 million in a single fundraiser Wednesday night.

At their sumptuous Heritage Dinner, �Victory Tables� are priced at $18,000 for corporate high-flyers, and the biggest donors are feted at a private cocktail reception by a grateful premier. But that�s only half the story of how the governing party raises big money.

...

The two most marketable ministers are Charles Sousa, the minister of finance, and Eric Hoskins, who helms the province�s $52-billion health care budget. Both are expected to bring in as much as $500,000 a year, well-placed sources have confirmed.

Sousa�s control of the provincial treasury, tax policy and auto insurance makes him a prime target for lobbyists in the banking and insurance industries. But Hoskins is also in high demand because of his regulatory authority over drug companies and nursing home conglomerates.

Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:09

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

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brucio posted:

Why does anyone, CPC or not, think Peter MacKay is remotely competent? His time in every ministry he held was unremarkable at best.

Pretty much the only things anyone remembers about him are that he used military helicopters as his own personal chauffeurs and called his ex a dog after she crossed the floor. Considering the weakness of the Conservative field I doubt either are disqualifying.

It's not like they have a lot of good options. The list makes the Republican primary field look like murderer's row.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:23

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Ikantski posted:

OLP caught in lie about heinous allegations regarding "shower" prison cells.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/david-reevely-yasir-naqvis-credibility-on-jail-reform-in-pieces-after-shower-cell-admission

The OCDC is loving horrible.

Don't worry though we won't have them sleep in the shower anymore, we'll just bunk them 4 to a cell (designed originally for 1, refitted for 2, routinely housing 3 on weekends).

# ? Mar 29, 2016 16:07

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Constant Hamprince posted:

He wasn't overweight or anything, it was almost certainly a heart condition in which case exertion could actually make it worse.

Please, he had a family. *Sticks fifth ace into pocket and lights up steampunk cigar.

Hillyer had cancer in the past and had undergone intensive chemo. Chemo takes a huge toll on your body.

I had a boss who beat cancer but died of pneumonia two years later, and she was younger than Hillyer. Unfortunately, it happens.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 16:13

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Hillyer had cancer in the past and had undergone intensive chemo. Chemo takes a huge toll on your body.

I had a boss who beat cancer but died of pneumonia two years later, and she was younger than Hillyer. Unfortunately, it happens.

Yeah, from what I hear, most chemo is basically "we hope this kills the cancer faster than it kills the rest of you!" It's brutal poo poo.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 16:18

David Corbett: Feb 6, 2008; Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

Marco Muzzo was sentenced this morning. Contrary to the expectations of many in this thread, who expected him to walk free or near enough to it on account of his family's wealth and connections, actually received a relatively stern sentence of 10 years' time in prison followed by a twelve year driving ban.

This feels appropriate to me.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 16:57

Patrick Spens: Jul 21, 2006; "Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"; Pillbug

David Corbett posted:

Marco Muzzo was sentenced this morning. Contrary to the expectations of many in this thread, who expected him to walk free or near enough to it on account of his family's wealth and connections, actually received a relatively stern sentence of 10 years' time in prison followed by a twelve year driving ban.

This feels appropriate to me.

He'll be out in three. But that's more to do with how lax our justice system is in general.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:02

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

David Corbett posted:

Marco Muzzo was sentenced this morning. Contrary to the expectations of many in this thread, who expected him to walk free or near enough to it on account of his family's wealth and connections, actually received a relatively stern sentence of 10 years' time in prison followed by a twelve year driving ban.

This feels appropriate to me.

Patrick Spens posted:

He'll be out in three. But that's more to do with how lax our justice system is in general.

We apparently don't do punitive sentences, but I agree he will be out in 3-4 years max.

edit: Let me also add the driving ban is very punitive on normal people, but he's rich so it doesn't apply. If his council can work his sentence through appeals, he may even be eligible for a pardon :downs:

Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:04

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

He probably won't be out in three, that's not generally how we do prison sentences.

I am glad of the driving ban.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:07

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

David Corbett posted:

Marco Muzzo was sentenced this morning. Contrary to the expectations of many in this thread, who expected him to walk free or near enough to it on account of his family's wealth and connections, actually received a relatively stern sentence of 10 years' time in prison followed by a twelve year driving ban.

This feels appropriate to me.

Me too. It denounces the act pretty strongly with a 10-year sentence and a significant driving ban, and it rewards the early PG with something less than the max.

jm20 posted:

edit: Let me also add the driving ban is very punitive on normal people, but he's rich so it doesn't apply. If his council can work his sentence through appeals, he may even be eligible for a pardon

Greenspan said straight-up that Muzzo accepts the sentence, and wisely so. He's done.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:14

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Jordan7hm posted:

He probably won't be out in three, that's not generally how we do prison sentences.

I am glad of the driving ban.

Applies to Canada only. He can simply uproot and move to Europe once his probation restrictions are over.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:15

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

PT6A posted:

Yeah, from what I hear, most chemo is basically "we hope this kills the cancer faster than it kills the rest of you!" It's brutal poo poo.

And even if the chemo doesn't affect your health long-term, you have to be on guard for the cancer returning. My cousin was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma when she was 24, and it's something she always will have to think about.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:16

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Jordan7hm posted:

The OCDC is loving horrible.

Don't worry though we won't have them sleep in the shower anymore, we'll just bunk them 4 to a cell (designed originally for 1, refitted for 2, routinely housing 3 on weekends).

I remembered your video when I heard it on the news. Yasir was on CFRA yesterday morning, it was pretty frustrating to hear him blaming the system.

flakeloaf posted:

Me too. It denounces the act pretty strongly with a 10-year sentence and a significant driving ban, and it rewards the early PG with something less than the max.

He'll serve a maximum of 2.5 years per life taken, seems right.

Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:17

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Ikantski posted:

He'll serve a maximum of 2.5 years per life taken, seems right.

I think 2-4 years is about the average for a guilty plea on a manslaughter charge. Not saying it's right, but there it is.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:28

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

jm20 posted:

Applies to Canada only. He can simply uproot and move to Europe once his probation restrictions are over.

Be that as it may, it means he won't be driving in Canada for the next 22 years. I might prefer a lifetime ban but it's still a pretty strict punishment.

Ikantski posted:

I remembered your video when I heard it on the news. Yasir was on CFRA yesterday morning, it was pretty frustrating to hear him blaming the system.

It's frustrating stuff. I didn't think there would be real changes under the Liberals but I had hoped Naqvi himself might be a bit more like he was in our interview than he has been in the media over the past week. I don't see the point of denying stuff like this. Even empty long term promises with some short term solutions are better (ie what we got after he got called out).

Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:31

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Jordan7hm posted:

Be that as it may, it means he won't be driving in Canada for the next 22 years. I might prefer a lifetime ban but it's still a pretty strict punishment.

15 to 22 years

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:33

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

If you commit vehicular manslaughter, especially if drunk, you should have an automatic lifetime driving ban. You had your chance, you hosed it up, now get used to walking and taking the bus.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:35

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Jordan7hm posted:

I don't see the point of denying stuff like this. Even empty long term promises with some short term solutions are better (ie what we got after he got called out).

Is there a chance he genuinely didn't know and was just talking out of his rear end?

e:

PT6A posted:

If you commit vehicular manslaughter, especially if drunk, you should have an automatic lifetime driving ban. You had your chance, you hosed it up, now get used to bribing a shady dealership to borrow their plates and insurance card

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:36

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

jm20 posted:

15 to 22 years

Thought it was 12 years after his sentence is served. In any case, it's significant either way.

This is a pretty solid sentence and the guy seems genuinely remorseful. That doesn't even remotely excuse his actions, but I don't see a lot to complain about here. It was in line with what the crown was asking for.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:38

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

flakeloaf posted:

Is there a chance he genuinely didn't know and was just talking out of his rear end?

Sure. But he's the minister and the local MPP and he's pretty involved in OCDC stuff.

Ignorance is not better in this case.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:40

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad!

Dreylad posted:

And even if the chemo doesn't affect your health long-term, you have to be on guard for the cancer returning. My cousin was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma when she was 24, and it's something she always will have to think about.

Pretty much same as my case. Every bump, ache, or headache gets the old panic button hit

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:48

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Jordan7hm posted:

It's frustrating stuff. I didn't think there would be real changes under the Liberals but I had hoped Naqvi himself might be a bit more like he was in our interview than he has been in the media over the past week. I don't see the point of denying stuff like this. Even empty long term promises with some short term solutions are better (ie what we got after he got called out).

The frustrating part on the call was that there was no short term solution. Just "don't sleep people in showers anymore". The host asked him 3 or 4 times where they're supposed to put the overflow people now and Naqvi just Liberaled on about how he was getting his deputy director to do a full inquiry task force investigation and how appalled he was at the system but no solutions.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:51

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Ontario NDP: Still the worst

https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/714857242160406528

https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/714857448440537088

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:32

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

I am glad that Notley apparently helped separate idiots in Ontario from their money.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:35

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

The Ontario NDP is all tactics and no strategy. And the tactics aren't very good.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:54

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Ontario NDP: Still the worst

https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/714857242160406528

https://twitter.com/btaplatt/status/714857448440537088

quote:

http://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/pcs-lead-ontario-horwath-most-popular-leader/

PCs Lead Ontario, Horwath Most Popular Leader
February 22, 2016

Among Decided and Leaning Voters: PCs 36% (-4%), Ontario Liberals 33% (+5%), NDP 26% (+1%), Greens 5% (-2%) � compared to the results from November 1st.

Patrick Brown: 32% Approve, 26% Disapprove, 42% Not Sure. Approval � Disapproval: +6
Andrea Horwath: 43% Approve, 26% Disapprove, 31% Not Sure. Approval � Disapproval: +17
Kathleen Wynne: 29% Approve, 60% Disapprove, 11% Not Sure. Approval � Disapproval: -31

I'm honestly not sure why they like her.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 19:06

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# ? May 15, 2024 09:22

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

She's a successful woman, which is a nice change from how male dominated politics was until recently. She's blandly inoffensive and she never stakes out positions that risk alienating any significant part of the electorate. Her main issues are that she's against corruption and in favour of making life more affordable. She has the full resources of a modern political party trying to sell her. She isn't perceived as likely to win and therefore isn't particularly threatening to a bunch of soft conservative voters who probably would like anyone who said bad things about the liberals. Anyway, approval ratings don't closely predict political support in a three party system during a non-election year, and getting the approval of four in ten voters isn't super impressive anyway.

Also notice which direction her support is trending. (Edit: to be clear the answer is nowhere, cause she's been stuck at that level for a while)

Helsing fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 19:24

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