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mythicknight
Jan 28, 2009

my thick night

Guess this is Timeline 6 now. 7?

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Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I would be ok if some time wraiths murdered everyone in LoT.

Hartley being their friend was a good change.

You know Cold is on that show, right?

But yeah, if the Rogues as an organization/club aren't forthcoming (and we are thus doomed to a new speedster villain every season), then Hartley is much better suited to be a Flash Friend than a solo act. I hope he turns out to be a socialist.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Holy crap this was probably the best episode of the season. I'm really glad that this aired this week because the people tuning in from Supergirl get to see a not-poo poo episode.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

"So I can't talk to them because they're dead, so I read their old journals."
"Of course... It's not like Thawne had anything like a journal around that we've all somehow forgotten about. Guess that leaves time travel!"

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

BrianWilly posted:

Holy crap this was probably the best episode of the season. I'm really glad that this aired this week because the people tuning in from Supergirl get to see a not-poo poo episode.

Unfortunately, Barry had to carry the idiot ball for a bit to make things happen outside of the Time Wraith.

Longbaugh01
Jul 13, 2001

"Surprise, muthafucka."
Are Time Wraiths at all in some way from any of the comics involving speedsters?

(It did sorta of look like it was wearing a decayed Flash-style mask.)

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Longbaugh01 posted:

Are Time Wraiths at all in some way from any of the comics involving speedsters?

(It did sorta of look like it was wearing a decayed Flash-style mask.)

The Black Flash. It's a personification of death that tries to run down speedsters whose time has come.

Also I will never get tired of Barry loving with the timestream, especially if it leads to more Wells-Thawne :ughh: background reactions.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Longbaugh01 posted:

Are Time Wraiths at all in some way from any of the comics involving speedsters?

(It did sorta of look like it was wearing a decayed Flash-style mask.)

Yeeeeep

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
It vaguely looked like the Black Flash at times but never behaved anything like it does in the books.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Chokes McGee posted:

Also I will never get tired of Barry loving with the timestream, especially if it leads to more Wells-Thawne :ughh: background reactions.

WHY DID YOU KILL MY MOTHER THAWNE!

Cause I hate you Barry. You're a goddamn idiot and people still love you.


Eobard is Barry's Frank Grimes.

Longbaugh01
Jul 13, 2001

"Surprise, muthafucka."
Oh. I thought Black Flash was a Black Lantern thing.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Longbaugh01 posted:

Oh. I thought Black Flash was a Black Lantern thing.

No no silly thats Black Lantern Flash :smuggo:


EDIT: I think that was just Professor Zoom ? So yeah, undead Tom Cavanagh would be pretty dope.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Chokes McGee posted:

Also I will never get tired of Barry loving with the timestream, especially if it leads to more Wells-Thawne :ughh: background reactions.

CW Barry is incredibly dumb, yet still much smarter than comics Barry, who basically destroyed the DC universe. People should cut the show writers some slack, because they are trying so hard to get Barry to that level of stupidity, but it takes some time. Current estimate: S03E17.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Jack of Hearts posted:

CW Barry is incredibly dumb, yet still much smarter than comics Barry, who basically destroyed the DC universe. People should cut the show writers some slack, because they are trying so hard to get Barry to that level of stupidity, but it takes some time. Current estimate: S03E17.

S03 E16 : Crisis on Infinite Networks

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Longbaugh01 posted:

Oh. I thought Black Flash was a Black Lantern thing.

It's just an avatar of death, it had nothing to do with time travel.



Then, like so many other times, Geoff Johns appropriated it into his greater vision.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 20 days!
Barry is the worst time traveler.

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."

Grem posted:

Barry is the worst speedster.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

be fair, all the future speedsters get to read the "things Barry Allen screwed up" Wikipedia page.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
The writers are actually doing a pretty good job this season, if their goal is to finally make the viewers understand and sympathise with Thawne's motivation and efforts to destroy the menace that is Barry.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Oh, has the Supergirl crossover happened already? Worth checking out if I haven't watched the show?

Guy A. Person posted:

Can we just stay here in season 1 where everything is fun
Yeeeah, I'm kinda with you. I didn't realise how much I missed Reverse Flash. Cavanagh is great fun as Real Alt Wells, but gently caress he's SO COMPELLING in the original role. He was honestly the entire reason the first season was so good. I don't want them to bring him back or anything, it would feel dragged out and they'd make him too toothless and comedic like Barrowman or something, but man...It just makes me sad and nostalgiac.

Also the scene with the two Barrys (Barries?) and the group arguing was the best scene of the episode. The Wrath of Kahn stuff, Caitlin's hurried denial of the tranq dart, RF Wells badly wanting them all to Shut The gently caress Up, etc. I miss the cast getting to be that funny and angst-free.

The change with Hartley was cute too.

VagueRant fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Mar 30, 2016

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
You should watch Supergirl, because it's better than Flash this season.

And Melissa Benoist is a national treasure.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

at least we know now where Barry got that contraption from that he was wearing in Supergirl, didnt remember it was the Tachyon-whatever thing that RF had on his suit to charge him up

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer

Teron D Amun posted:

at least we know now where Barry got that contraption from that he was wearing in Supergirl, didnt remember it was the Tachyon-whatever thing that RF had on his suit to charge him up

You don't remember Eobard Thawne's most evil act, goatseing the entire audience?

Comfortador
Jul 31, 2003

Just give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have.

Wait...wait.

I worry what you just heard was...
"Give me a lot of b4con_n_3ggs."

What I said was...
"Give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have"

...Do you understand?
All this episode did was make me pine for Cavanaugh's Reverse Flash. Now there is another break? I'm almost done with this show.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Comfortador posted:

All this episode did was make me pine for Cavanaugh's Reverse Flash. Now there is another break? I'm almost done with this show.

It could be worse, it could be Arrow.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Felicity is still better than Barry.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Comfortador posted:

Now there is another break? I'm almost done with this show.

They're trying to give that dumb looking virus show as many new episodes of the Flash as a lead in as they can get. Which makes sense from a programmers perspective, but sucks from ours.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Aphrodite posted:

Felicity is still better than Barry.

nope

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?

Aphrodite posted:

Felicity is still better than Barry.

Let's not say things we can't take back.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
In the Supergirl crossover, there's a bit where Kara is lamenting how she failed her city and how they hate and fear her, and Barry says, "Don't worry - I've been there." When did that happen to Barry? I've forgotten.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Wheat Loaf posted:

In the Supergirl crossover, there's a bit where Kara is lamenting how she failed her city and how they hate and fear her, and Barry says, "Don't worry - I've been there." When did that happen to Barry? I've forgotten.

Probably the whole "Oops I accidentally a singularity that is sucking the entire city in to the sky" bit at the end of season 1.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
But they gave him a key to the city when he did that!

Maybe it's the whole "Iris's new editor hates and fears the Flash" angle that didn't / hasn't really gone anywhere, except the writers think that was a big impactful thing the Flash had to deal with, like Jay apparently being this great mentor to Barry.

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 30, 2016

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

Whatever.

mythicknight posted:

Guess this is Timeline 6 now. 7?

What I find funny about this is that the audience just generally goes along with the fact that the people they've been following throughout the show have been wiped from existence and replaced by similar people, I guess because the characters never bring it up. I guess it's to be expected when the timeline can be changed, but it would nice for someone in the show to complain about it.

Something from Cisco like... "Well wait Barry, if you change the past what happens to us?... You'll come back and find another Cisco, what about this timeline me? I like existing..."

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Teek posted:

What I find funny about this is that the audience just generally goes along with the fact that the people they've been following throughout the show have been wiped from existence and replaced by similar people, I guess because the characters never bring it up. I guess it's to be expected when the timeline can be changed, but it would nice for someone in the show to complain about it.

Something from Cisco like... "Well wait Barry, if you change the past what happens to us?... You'll come back and find another Cisco, what about this timeline me? I like existing..."

They did bring it up in this episode and it was resolved with "if nothing changes then everyone's going to cease to exist anyway".

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Wheat Loaf posted:

In the Supergirl crossover, there's a bit where Kara is lamenting how she failed her city and how they hate and fear her, and Barry says, "Don't worry - I've been there." When did that happen to Barry? I've forgotten.

Probably when Zoom beat the poo poo out of him and dragged him all over Central City to show how weak he was.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Wheat Loaf posted:

But they gave him a key to the city when he did that!

They did, yea, but then he spent like the first 5 something episodes in season two being super emo because OMG PEOPLE THINK IM A HERO BUT IM A BAD MAN THAT CAUSED TEH SINGULARITY AND KILLED RONNIE. So I guess not really the same as Supergirl's case, but close enough in Barry's head.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

Whatever.

computer parts posted:

They did bring it up in this episode and it was resolved with "if nothing changes then everyone's going to cease to exist anyway".

Yeah, I just find it funny how some shows and movies treat timeline changes fairly flippantly. You never really see much concern from the characters after reality has been reshaped unless it's some catastrophic new alternate reality.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Teek posted:

Something from Cisco like... "Well wait Barry, if you change the past what happens to us?... You'll come back and find another Cisco, what about this timeline me? I like existing..."

When Barry was considering wiping them all out (along with all of humanity) to save his mom they gave him their blessing and acted like what he was doing was noble. They're used to it by now and if they'll condone it for that he doesn't really need their permission for yet more dimensional fuckery frankly.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Stunt Rock posted:

Kara and Barry BestSuper Friends Forever

Fixed.

So I'm guessing the next ep is where Cisco and Caitlyn make a tachyon generator using the information, Barry uses it to try and go to Earth-2, but ends up in Earth-CBS first.

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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Wheat Loaf posted:

In the Supergirl crossover, there's a bit where Kara is lamenting how she failed her city and how they hate and fear her, and Barry says, "Don't worry - I've been there." When did that happen to Barry? I've forgotten.

You remember when he turned evil because of Red kryptonite rainbow eye beams, beat up Eddie and the police formed an anti Flash task squad?

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