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Nerdrock posted:Exactly this. I wouldn't pay a guy who doesn't know you can't just "put server on a workstation" 30k a year, let alone let them make any changes. Especially to a dipshit kid who plays Halo on the clock. On the other hand, if I were getting paid next-to-nothing for a scummy douche in an environment like Turtlicious has, I'd probably play games on the clock, too.
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Can we also please keep in mind that I still can't get anyone to call me by my name? I'm currently CT in the office still, that's 500+ people, and none of them will call me by my name. Situations is hosed 12 ways from Tuesday.
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Kashuno posted:I played videogames at work once. I got here at 5AM when I am scheduled for 8AM and fixed an issue in 10 minutes, and I was the only person in the office. Even then I felt kinda uncomfortable about it. I feel uncomfortable just browsing SA at work. I can't imagine how playing a video game at work would make me feel.
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Sefal posted:I feel uncomfortable just browsing SA at work. Whoa now, let's not be crazy.
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Turtlicious posted:Uh guys, 14.70 * 2080/work hours a year = 30k Everyone starts somewhere. The thing with the money is that you already worked there for a certain amount. I can't think of a single employer I've ever had that wouldn't have laughed in my face if I asked them to double my salary. The point of this isn't to make money now, it's to learn valuable skills and have fun breaking poo poo so you can make more money elsewhere. Turtlicious posted:Can we also please keep in mind that I still can't get anyone to call me by my name? I'm currently CT in the office still, that's 500+ people, and none of them will call me by my name. Situations is hosed 12 ways from Tuesday. Please don't sign a 2 year noncompete. That place sucks, you'll want to leave in 6 months.
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a Jr sysadmin is not the same as sysadmin
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Turtlicious posted:Can we also please keep in mind that I still can't get anyone to call me by my name? I'm currently CT in the office still, that's 500+ people, and none of them will call me by my name. Situations is hosed 12 ways from Tuesday. Your situation is awful and based on what they want from you $64000 sounds great. You appear to be the sole it person responsible for everything. My point was if you have a meeting with the boss and explain how hosed everything is and get them on board, then an hour later you're fragging newbs in halo you aren't doing much to help your cause.
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Kashuno posted:a Jr sysadmin is not the same as sysadmin I went base line based on multiple sites, and I'm feeling like you didn't read the whole thing. I pointed out that a sysadmin makes close to 6 figs, and even a junior sysadmin makes 64k Bigass Moth posted:Your situation is awful and based on what they want from you $64000 sounds great. You appear to be the sole it person responsible for everything. I was offered 30k, not 64k. Either way, I'm taking the money, but going to try and negotiate on the non-compete. unclenutzzy posted:Please don't sign a 2 year noncompete. That place sucks, you'll want to leave in 6 months. If they stick on it, I'm going to take it, I'm young, I can afford to learn a few lessons the hard way. Besides the money will make the crazy ok.
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I'd kill to be making almost 6 figs as a sysadmin
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Where do you live? Depending upon location 31k can can range from decent to below the poverty line. Salaries from the Bay Area/NYC/Dc aren't really good to go off of because the cost of living in those areas is astronomical compared to like Texas or some place. e: Also those benefits are pretty ridiculous.
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psydude posted:Where do you live? Depending upon location 31k can can range from decent to below the poverty line. Salaries from the Bay Area/NYC/Dc aren't really good to go off of because the cost of living in those areas is astronomical compared to like Texas or some place. 31k is less than teachers make in texas.
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Kashuno posted:I'd kill to be making almost 6 figs as a sysadmin Also never sign a 2yr contract
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Turtlicious posted:Besides the money will make the crazy ok. If it's crazy money like that dude working for the neurotic Israelis, maybe. The offer thrown at you sounds more reasonable given what you're dealing with, except I wouldn't put up with such a dysfunctional organization. Also yeah, where are you located?
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Sickening posted:31k is less than teachers make in texas. Probably because they're teachers and not a fresh new IT guy working for a lovely company.
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Mar 30, 2016 15:23
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East Bay San Fran.
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Turtlicious posted:East Bay San Fran. Oh boy. Can't you make 30k in San Fran working at mcdonalds?
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Turtlicious posted:East Bay San Fran. Yeah then 31k is ridiculous and you should ask for more.
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Wait did I misread this and they offered you 31k..in total?
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Hell we start our helpdesk people who just answer the phone and enter tickets all day between 35-40k in Orlando.
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psydude posted:Probably because they're teachers and not a fresh new IT guy working for a lovely company. My point was that even in texas that would be getting close to making almost nothing. And lol at fresh new IT guys not making 31k in texas. Teachers also don't make jack poo poo for a degree required occupation and that is basically the low bar example I laid it out as. Turtlicious posted:East Bay San Fran. I am in a well, help.
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Please don't do this Turtle.
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Turtlicious posted:East Bay San Fran.  I was expecting midwest or the south, bless your heart.
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Get the hell out of that place now.
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ok Strawpoll, how many thinks that 31k is a good offer? http://strawpoll.me/7227707
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So I work in Boston and helldesk gave me 40k+ for my IT job ever with just an A+ cert. What they want you to do is way beyond the scope of that. Get a new job.
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Turtlicious posted:ok Strawpoll, how many thinks that 31k is a good offer? You're missing the option to get out and find a job that isn't completely giving it to you in the rear end.
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Sickening posted:Teachers also don't make jack poo poo for a degree required occupation and that is basically the low bar example I laid it out as. Ah. Teachers here make pretty good money.
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Yeah holy poo poo what the gently caress?
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Turtlicious posted:East Bay San Fran. You are aware that you will soon be making less than minimum wage, right? Ok, well, in 5 years you will be. But minimum wage is going up from 10/hr to 15/hr in california... Also, I'm making 50k a year and have full benefits as a helpdesk person in Santa Cruz. Also, what kind of noncompete contract is it? Just "no working in a competing industry" or "no working in a similar job"? First one you can laugh at after you get some resume building done, second one is "gently caress no".
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My life is boring compared to Mr turtles. I saved my company over 250k over the last few months, the project is a month ahead of schedule, and I am now in talks to get a much larger raise than normal. I wish I had wacky adventures for this thread. 
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FireSight posted:You are aware that you will soon be making less than minimum wage, right? Ok, well, in 5 years you will be. But minimum wage is going up from 10/hr to 15/hr in california... I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand.
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You can, and should, quit. Assuming you have some sort of fallback plan. There has to be a help desk job out there that pays better.
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Turtlicious posted:I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand. Last time I checked, California is an employment at will state and you should read up on what that means. We're all on your side here and we all want to help. e: vvv 
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Turtlicious posted:I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand. Did not realize indentured servitude was still legal in the states.
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Turtlicious posted:I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand. Oh yeah totally
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Lol back in 2004 I was making 13$/hr doing call center IT work. You are being paid almost less than a guy working the phones for 1000x the responsibility.
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ratbert90 posted:My life is boring compared to Mr turtles. How do i prepare myself for a raise talk? I'm thinking about leading with this; "Hey, the company gave a very good review about me. They are very happy with me. I've migrated the wsus,DHCP and the Domain controller to 2012R2. I will no longer answer the helpdesk phone or do tier 1 tickets starting in april, I will only work on tier 2 escalations and make changes to the infrastructure. I've become MCSA Server 2012 certified. But i'm at the lowest of the low with regards to my salary. Can we do something about that?" Is that a good way to lead things? But the thing i have against me is. I don't even have 1 full year of experience. I started in July 2015. Could that be a problem?
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Sefal posted:How do i prepare myself for a raise talk? Keep a running tab and wait out the year IMO. Bring everything you have done to save the company money if you want a bigger raise. A employee is just somebody who sucks money from the company, make them see why you are valuable and making the company money.
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ratbert90 posted:Keep a running tab and wait out the year IMO. Bring everything you have done to save the company money if you want a bigger raise. A employee is just somebody who sucks money from the company, make them see why you are valuable and making the company money. I have a performance review coming up in june. Would that be a good moment? The last performance review I had was very positive I'm expecting this to be the same/better.
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Turtlicious posted:I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand. I think I see the cause to your dilemma, you are a loving gullible idiot.
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