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Alain Post posted:The lower series are awful, yeah, mainly due to the awful field quality lately. Haven't caught up on WTCC or DTM lately but the XFinity series might actually be the worst racing series in the world right now. The current Formula V8 3.5 roster is a sight to behold, including Johnny Cecotto jr who spent 15 years in GP2 with a total of four wins. edit: and a 50-year-old hotel owner funeral fag fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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funeral fag posted:The current Formula V8 3.5 roster is a sight to behold, including Johnny Cecotto jr who spent 15 years in GP2 with a total of four wins That series will probably collapse within 2 years.
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Mar 30, 2016 15:22
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Human Grand Prix posted:That series will probably collapse within 2 years. how optimistic of you
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we're like two years removed from people thinking formula renault 3.5 had comparable driver talent to GP2
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Mar 30, 2016 16:11
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be nice wicka posted:we're like two years removed from people thinking formula renault 3.5 had comparable driver talent to GP2 It was pretty good.
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Mar 30, 2016 16:12
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that's because pay drivers end up diluting the whole field to complete uselessness when they hear that series X is where it's at to get noticed by a cash-strapped F1 team
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Mar 30, 2016 16:24
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I do wonder why some of the useless drivers who rarely win in these series don't quit and do something cheaper and more fun like autocross, instead of pootling around for years on end going nowhere fast
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Mar 30, 2016 16:30
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WSBR was probably better than GP2 in like, 2013.
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Mar 30, 2016 16:33
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Alain Post posted:WSBR was probably better than GP2 in like, 2013. Losing the Renault backing hurt them, and some of their teams (like DAMS) have jumped ship. There are some decent drivers still in the series but no-one that would make it to F1 by merit alone. It looks like a slightly better version of Auto GP as of right now.
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Mar 30, 2016 16:37
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The ladder to F1 is a loving mess.
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learnincurve posted:lol it's funny because you have never been to a UK race event. Firstly that shirt will never be sold in any size smaller than XL and will have egg dripped down the front. Secondly it will be worn by sweaty 40 year old virgins who will sit themselves next to any woman who seems to be on her own, and will be torn between creeping on her or wanting to make themselves feel superior by explaining every little thing that is going on. There are two types of UK race fans. This is the most accurate post that has ever been posted on the internet.
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Human Grand Prix posted:The 27 different competing ladders to a year of F1 backmarker status followed by a steady career in WEC are a loving mess.
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You are all aware of course that DTM is now the place for young /F1 test drivers to be now that it's owned by a large sinister Austrian fellow who suddenly appeared on the scene 5 years ago and now seems to be everywhere. and yet his wife still couldn't get a DTM drive
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learnincurve posted:sinister Austrian fellow who suddenly appeared on the scene 5 years ago and now seems to be everywhere Historically, this does not bode well
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learnincurve posted:You are all aware of course that DTM is now the place for young /F1 test drivers to be now that it's owned by a large sinister Austrian fellow who suddenly appeared on the scene 5 years ago and now seems to be everywhere. And yet somehow DTM manages to create races almost 10 times as boring as a WTCC race but with considerably more budget.
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It's a place for Germans in the car industry to hang around in hospitality and do business with each other while German youths desperately try to get sponsorship from them so they don't have to resort to the red bull young drivers program. The actual racing is unimportant and only there so that Boring McDougal and Timo Glock can act as control drivers while getting thoroughly whomped by 18 year olds on their way to a superlicence .
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learnincurve posted:It's a place for Germans in the car industry to hang around in hospitality and do business with each other while German youths desperately try to get sponsorship from them so they don't have to resort to the red bull young drivers program. The actual racing is unimportant and only there so that Boring McDougal and Timo Glock can act as control drivers while getting thoroughly whomped by 18 year olds on their way to a superlicence . are you talking about DTM or F1
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Timo Glock owns.
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Who is this Timo Glock fella? He related to Tim O'Glock, the fastest Irishman??
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Riso posted:Who is this Timo Glock fella? He related to Tim O'Glock, the fastest Irishman?? I think that's the Hungarian flag dude.
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Mar 30, 2016 18:12
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Oh dear god. Someone actually thought to run the 2017 changes through a simulator. Slower on the straights, considerably faster in the corners. Not only will the brakes not work but also they corner at 5.5G which is too much for both the drivers and the nice new big tyres.
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learnincurve posted:Allow me to enable you - This weekend it's the first Hankook 24H Silverstone and it's going to be awesome. (and I can't go Plus RoC wildcard Brad Philpot is in a Peugeot. And would probably freak the gently caress out if you pretend to recognise him. Human Grand Prix posted:That series will probably collapse within 2 years. If that, they haven't even reached round 1 yet and 2 teams who didn't pull out when Renault did have now pulled out.
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learnincurve posted:Allow me to enable you - This weekend it's the first Hankook 24H Silverstone and it's going to be awesome. (and I can't go monkeytennis posted:WEC starts in April with ELMS supporting I think. That's an epic weekend for £40 (that was what we paid last year). I was going to go to the WEC last year but ended up not bothering, I'm vaguely interested in WEC though as it actually has some names I'd recognise  Thanks both, will possibly check them out
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learnincurve posted:Oh dear god. Someone actually thought to run the 2017 changes through a simulator. Slower on the straights, considerably faster in the corners. Not only will the brakes not work but also they corner at 5.5G which is too much for both the drivers and the nice new big tyres. hahaha loving  Formula 1: Stay for literally everything but the racing (we're sorry about the racing)
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Ship those 2017 regs now. I'd watch it.
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learnincurve posted:Oh dear god. Someone actually thought to run the 2017 changes through a simulator. Slower on the straights, considerably faster in the corners. Not only will the brakes not work but also they corner at 5.5G which is too much for both the drivers and the nice new big tyres. Okay, so reduce downforce and we have a good formula. Solves every "negitive" here.
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Norns posted:Okay, so reduce downforce and we have a good formula. Solves every "negitive" here. Pretty much. The worst thread solved F1.
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It's like paddle shifters or the new engines they add absolutely nothing to the show but they were still implemented because that's what the big companies wanted.
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Mar 31, 2016 03:56
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drat I love looking at F1 tech.
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El Hefe posted:It's like paddle shifters or the new engines they add absolutely nothing to the show but they were still implemented because that's what the big companies wanted. semi-auto gearboxes were implemented because a team (the Scud) thought it was an engineering advantage
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Alain Post posted:semi-auto gearboxes were implemented because a team (the Scud) thought it was an engineering advantage Exactly it doesn't provide any benefit for us the viewers who are ultimately the reason the sport exists today. How do the new engines improve the racing? they don't but yet billions were spent on them
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the sport isn't interesting if teams aren't trying to beat each other by building cooler cars. a bigger problem is development restrictions imo, not "the engines aren't the same ones they used in the 90s"
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also the Ferrari 640/641 is one of the most fondly remembered F1 cars of the era and being the first semi-auto gearbox car was part of it's legend, so idk how you can say that the viewers don't care about that kind of thing
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Because it doesn't improve racing, plain and simple.
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if people care so much about "the racing" why are they clamoring to bring back the 80s and 90s
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El Hefe posted:Exactly it doesn't provide any benefit for us the viewers who are ultimately the reason the sport exists today. You are having a laugh. 90% of the sport doesn't provide a benefit to the viewers, what did FRIC do to 'enhance the show'? Stop being hung up on that.
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Because back then it was actually a challenge to drive the cars not like these days were Nico can win a race and come out of the car looking as pretty as a princess.
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teams doing cool poo poo to try to build the best car in the paddock isn't "just for the big companies", it is, in fact, part of the entire appeal of the sport. if people wanted Good Racing they'd watch the Indycars instead (they don't)
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El Hefe posted:Because back then it was actually a challenge to drive the cars not like these days were Nico can win a race and come out of the car looking as pretty as a princess. 
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1500quidporsche posted:You are having a laugh. 90% of the sport doesn't provide a benefit to the viewers, what did FRIC do to 'enhance the show'? Stop being hung up on that. And maybe that's exactly why F1 is so poo poo then
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