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thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Sober posted:

Isn't South Park on the very very very extreme? Like the dudes literally put the episode together the day it's supposed to air? Sounds interesting either way.

Yeah, it's an extreme edge case, but 6 Days to Air is one of the few cases where we can see how the sausage is made. And the South Park guys don't just fart them out, they have a fairly brutal schedule trying to get them to Viacom in time for the next episode.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Mar 30, 2016

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


South Park has been a weird case because of how it's all animated in house using computers and how small the voice cast meant they could push things to an extreme that other shows couldn't. Although in the last couple of seasons they've changed how they do stuff, they leave it open to adding some recent events but are focusing more on planning out season long arcs.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Sober posted:

Isn't South Park on the very very very extreme? Like the dudes literally put the episode together the day it's supposed to air? Sounds interesting either way.

For what kind of show it is, yes, but live or nearly so scripted comedies are often done on a tight schedule like that. There was a documentary on how SNL gets made in a week that came out in the last year or so that was pretty good.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

IRQ posted:

For what kind of show it is, yes, but live or nearly so scripted comedies are often done on a tight schedule like that. There was a documentary on how SNL gets made in a week that came out in the last year or so that was pretty good.

Definitely recommended viewing if you've ever been a fan of SNL. It's called Saturday Night, and it was shot and directed by James Franco. It featured a week in 2008 where John Malkovich hosted. It was cool to see what happens to pitches that don't make it vs. ones that do and how they get developed into what you see during the live broadcast.

EDIT: I believe it's on Hulu

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Gonz posted:

Not Safe is one of the best new shows on TV in general. That whole thing where they feed the lines to porn stars through an earpiece while they're loving is something that everyone should view.

It's a super-under apperacted show that should have a bigger following.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The Teachers pilot is pretty drat mediocre. Does it get any better?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

xcore posted:

The answer is always going to be "it depends". But a general overview would be, the showrunner has an idea of the stories they want to tell in the episode. The writers will all collaborate to flesh out the episode, decide on story beats and episode arcs, then the head writer for the episode will go off and write the episode. First draft will be complete and they will all meet up to tear the script apart. Rinse and repeat.

(this is all based off TV show podcasts I listen to. I have no actual experience)

There's some good writer blogs (including an article by the guy who ran the Middlemen and was a writer for Lost, forgot his name) that really get into it, but different shows have different approaches. X-Files, for example, had a pretty loose structure that allowed writers to basically produce their own episodes, from initial idea to casting to being on set during shooting to even editing. Then there are shows that are way more controlled by the showrunner, Mathew Weiner basically putting his fingerprints on every episode of Mad Men for example.

Vince Gilligan apparently would have a summit with writers where different things they would want to see would be put up on a whiteboard. Gilligan would then sketch out a vague arc to the season, then collaborate for each individual episode, assigning one writer to outline and flesh out a draft of an episode based on the input of the writers room. Then Gilligan would check it out, and send it back, and repeat. But its all a very fluid process.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
Dan Harmon described the writing of an episode of Community as basically, he would write the script, then take it to the writer's room, where the other writers would put in the jokes.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

boom boom boom posted:

Dan Harmon described the writing of an episode of Community as basically, he would write the script, then take it to the writer's room, where the other writers would put in the jokes.
I think that's generally true for most comedies, the room workshops the jokes more than the stories.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Might make a thread for The Path if nobody else does soon. Hulu drama about a cult starring Aaron Paul, Hugh Dancy, and Michelle Monaghan. First episode was very interesting despite some meh dialogue.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

I heard that show is real bad

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
jesus that was fast

anyway I like episode 1 but it was directed by Mike Cahill who is a talented dude so maybe later episodes will be less good? but I'm totally down for now.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Yeah every review I read for it seems to state that it's a boring cliched slog, which is all the more disappointing cause it's got Aaron Paul, one of my favorite actors ever

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Toxxupation posted:

Yeah every review I read for it seems to state that it's a boring cliched slog,

Actually those were reviews of your posts.


Escobarbarian posted:

Might make a thread for The Path if nobody else does soon. Hulu drama about a cult starring Aaron Paul, Hugh Dancy, and Michelle Monaghan. First episode was very interesting despite some meh dialogue.

Are they doing the weekly release sked or is it all up?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The first two are up now but it's going to be weekly.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I never thought I'd be saying this after how fantastic seasons 8 and 9 were, but... I think Trailer Park Boys jumped the shark.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
Did Sunday's episode of Quantico drop the f-bomb? "You're not a Muslim, you're a gently caress!" It didn't sound like she was saying "fake", so was that some Arabic word which only sounded like gently caress?

Also, I'm not sure if the complete anticlimax of "12 terrorists with automatic weapons breach the gate lock everything down!" / "They were all rounded up during the commercial break" was dumb or smart (because that place should indeed have massive security and not be vulnerable to just 12 guys shooting their way past the first gate).

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

Did Sunday's episode of Quantico drop the f-bomb? "You're not a Muslim, you're a gently caress!" It didn't sound like she was saying "fake", so was that some Arabic word which only sounded like gently caress?

Thug.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Ironically, the Thugs were Muslim.



This has been your useless fact of the day.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
There will be a live production of A Few Good Men airing on NBC early next year. Aaron Sorkin will produce and re-adapt his own play.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

LORD OF BUTT posted:

I never thought I'd be saying this after how fantastic seasons 8 and 9 were, but... I think Trailer Park Boys jumped the shark.

I don't know if I'd call it a "jump the shark" moment, but I couldn't really get into Trailer Park Boya anymore once they turned Leahey into a villain actively working against the boys again. I just liked the dude and his seasons' long build to redemption to just see them hit the reset button on him and it just soured me on the whole show from that point on.




Escobarbarian posted:

jesus that was fast

anyway I like episode 1 but it was directed by Mike Cahill who is a talented dude so maybe later episodes will be less good? but I'm totally down for now.

I haven't seen it yet, but I love cult stuff and I really don't care what reviewers say, a lot of them seem to just parrot whatever the early prevalent opinion is and just run with it from there. Unless something is an obvious trainwreck or soulless cash in, I just ignore what critics say

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

savinhill posted:

I don't know if I'd call it a "jump the shark" moment, but I couldn't really get into Trailer Park Boya anymore once they turned Leahey into a villain actively working against the boys again. I just liked the dude and his seasons' long build to redemption to just see them hit the reset button on him and it just soured me on the whole show from that point on.


I haven't seen it yet, but I love cult stuff and I really don't care what reviewers say, a lot of them seem to just parrot whatever the early prevalent opinion is and just run with it from there. Unless something is an obvious trainwreck or soulless cash in, I just ignore what critics say

Give the new season a shot, I like what they did with him

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Dunno if it's been on there a while but Hulu just recommended me the full series of In the Thick of It so if you haven't seen it yet, watch it.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


At least a little while because I wanted to watch it a couple years ago and got through the first 2 seasons and specials that way.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
In The Thick Of It's awesome. I knew absolutely nothing about the British political process, but you don't need to know, or even care, about that stuff to enjoy it and find it hilarious.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yes, Minister is a good primer on the English tv parliamentary system.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Did they rename The Thick of It for the US, or did you guys just get the name wrong?

Spoiler: main dude got locked up irl for paedophilia related charges, so no Huw Abbott after series 1

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Toxxupation posted:

Yeah every review I read for it seems to state that it's a boring cliched slog, which is all the more disappointing cause it's got Aaron Paul, one of my favorite actors ever

Reviews I read were favorable, noting the highlights were its use of imagery and Aaron Paul over dialogue and early plotting fwiw.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Danger posted:

Reviews I read were favorable, noting the highlights were its use of imagery and Aaron Paul over dialogue and early plotting fwiw.

Yeah, almost done with episode two, it's not amazing, but it's not terrible either. Aaron Paul is definitely the highlight.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

EL BROMANCE posted:

Did they rename The Thick of It for the US, or did you guys just get the name wrong?

Spoiler: main dude got locked up irl for paedophilia related charges, so no Huw Abbott after series 1

I think there's The Thick of It, and In The Thick Of It, and one is a movie and one is a series based mostly on the movie but with some new characters and some old ones changed around. Malcom Tucker is eternal.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

EL BROMANCE posted:


Spoiler: main dude got locked up irl for paedophilia related charges, so no Huw Abbott after series 1

drat that is method as hell.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
How in the god damned gently caress do people watch shows with frame interpolation on. And they don't even notice.

I'm like "hey, frame interpolation is on, that's why everything looks like poo poo" and they are like "what? it is? who turned it on?"

"How the gently caress should I know dad, I turned it off last time I visited over a year ago"

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

bring back old gbs posted:

I think there's The Thick of It, and In The Thick Of It, and one is a movie and one is a series based mostly on the movie but with some new characters and some old ones changed around. Malcom Tucker is eternal.

I don't know if that's what it's renamed as or if you're just confused. In The Loop was the name of the film.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
a good civil servant but a bad doctor

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Also watching Fringe with frame interpolation on makes it look like some lovely British scifi show.

Snak fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 31, 2016

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

It makes it look like the 100? Man that's some extensive frame interpolation

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
The 100 isn't British.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

BSam posted:

I don't know if that's what it's renamed as or if you're just confused. In The Loop was the name of the film.

I was absolutely confused, you are correct.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Snak posted:

How in the god damned gently caress do people watch shows with frame interpolation on. And they don't even notice.

I'm like "hey, frame interpolation is on, that's why everything looks like poo poo" and they are like "what? it is? who turned it on?"

"How the gently caress should I know dad, I turned it off last time I visited over a year ago"

I don't even kno what Frame Interpolation is

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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

It's an animation style where they draw a reduced number of frames and have a computer fill the frames in between them for the look of motion, as opposed to creating more frames of animation

Sorta like how they fill the space between opening and end credits with garbage and call it "an episode of the 100"

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