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Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Troposphere posted:

yeah that made me laugh. in what
world is this in anyway true, I wonder...

I honestly wouldn't have said anything if people didn't keep complaining that omg people aren't freaking out about Denise that just proves my point!!! checkmate!! so if you all want me to shut up about it maybe stop making terrible wrong posts?

"I'll stop talking about this if you will all stop being OBJECTIVELY WRONG and agree with me."

:rolleyes:

Really? Good luck with that.


The Iron Rose posted:

then you're an idiot, because that's not what people are saying.


If there were a proportional amount of LGBT characters in TV shows then killing them off wouldn't be a problem. There are not only not a proportional amount of LGBT characters in media, especially wrt lesbians, but we get killed off at significantly higher rates.

Basically what I'm saying is that we're criticizing "the black dude dies first" and y'all are bitching about it.

I'm curious as to what metric The 100 is failing in "proportional representation"? There seem to be a larger number of homosexual main, secondary, and guest characters on this show than on any other I've seen on the air today. Some people say 10% of the population is gay. Some conservatives say it's far less. What would be correct for a show like The 100 to be at a point where they could have gay characters without plot armor? 30% gay characters? 50%? The Post Apocalyptic L-Word?

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hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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WarLocke posted:

The 100 (s3) - Two Lesbians Enter, One Lesbian Leaves

(I'm so sorry)

LGBT Thunderdome

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

Make them fight for the role of token queer, the survivor gets plot immunity.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Astroman posted:

I'm curious as to what metric The 100 is failing in "proportional representation"? There seem to be a larger number of homosexual main, secondary, and guest characters on this show than on any other I've seen on the air today. Some people say 10% of the population is gay. Some conservatives say it's far less. What would be correct for a show like The 100 to be at a point where they could have gay characters without plot armor? 30% gay characters? 50%? The Post Apocalyptic L-Word?

Exactly.

Another point is that all LGBT characters are portrayed as good characters. Not a single one of them has been "evil," and in fact every single one of them is chock full of positive qualities, which is irrepresentative of the population at large. And every bad poo poo they do is ultimately justified (by the story) in one form or another.

Clarke - Hero and main character, has done bad poo poo but always because she was carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders and had no choice. Bisexual.
Lexa - Badass warrior queen, smart leader, amazing fighter, betrayed Clarke in S2 but only because she wanted to protect her people. Bisexual.
Miller - Reliable henchman loyal to Kane, i.e. he's on the "good side". Gay.
Bryan - Miller's boyfriend, overall nice dude, even if he's not on the "good side" he also isn't actively evil. Gay.
Niylah - Trader who risks her own life to protect Clarke, is obviously "good". Lesbian/Bisexual.

On the other hand, Finn massacred a village full of civilians and he was straight. Cage was an evil mountain vampire and he was straight. Pike is a fascist warmonger and he's straight. Ice Queen was blatantly "bad" and she was straight. Etcetera. Basically if a character is an antagonist there's 0% chance that they will be LGBT. Yet, as far as I know, no one raises hell about this unrealistic representation.

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I like the "Two Lesbians Enter, One Lesbian Leaves" but it's been made very clear that Clarke doesn't count as a lesbian because she's just part time. Which, okay, yes, I understand the difference between a bisexual woman and a lesbian woman but on the other hand she's had more sex with girls than boys on the show, and I am not actually starting the conversation again what am I doing someone please stop me help help So what about that crazy Jaha, huh?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I'm looking forward to the next episode of this porno / Lifetime soap opera.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



steinrokkan posted:

I'm looking forward to the next episode of this porno / Lifetime soap opera.

Get your rage ready for when the gay black guy dies.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

hollylolly posted:

I like the "Two Lesbians Enter, One Lesbian Leaves" but it's been made very clear that Clarke doesn't count as a lesbian because she's just part time. Which, okay, yes, I understand the difference between a bisexual woman and a lesbian woman but on the other hand she's had more sex with girls than boys on the show, and I am not actually starting the conversation again what am I doing someone please stop me help help So what about that crazy Jaha, huh?

The second she kisses Belamy the internet is going to explode again.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Rhyno posted:

The second she kisses Belamy the internet is going to explode again.

The internet is a series of tubes, powered by a series of rapid consecutive explosions.

:iiaca:

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

TheCenturion posted:

I want to find out that after getting the chip, the Commander is constantly surrounded by virtual manifestations of the previous Commanders and they never shut up. Constantly commenting, suggesting, criticizing, complaining and so on.

This is absolutely the direction they should go.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

MacheteZombie posted:

This is absolutely the direction they should go.

Also it means that Lexa is actually alive.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

steinrokkan posted:

Also it means that Lexa is actually alive.

Alive in the sense of being a digital AI reconstruction of consciousness making it one of those "what counts as life" arguments.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

steinrokkan posted:

Also it means that Lexa is actually alive.

And then in the finale they plug the Commander's AI chip into ALIE's backpack repeater thing and every Commander that's lived so far charges into the City of Light in a huge melee.

Where's my check CW

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
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WarLocke posted:

And then in the finale they plug the Commander's AI chip into ALIE's backpack repeater thing and every Commander that's lived so far charges into the City of Light in a huge melee.

Where's my check CW

But then people would cry that they stole this plot from StarTrek Voyager.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Dalael posted:

But then people would cry that they stole this plot from StarTrek Voyager.

What the gently caress Voyager episode had anything like that?

Not calling you a liar, maybe it happened and I erased the memory from my brain

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
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WarLocke posted:

What the gently caress Voyager episode had anything like that?

Not calling you a liar, maybe it happened and I erased the memory from my brain

Something similar. There's a bunch of Borg drones that have found some kind of happy place when they regenerate, away from the prying eyes of the Queen. The crew of Voyager get themselves assimilated so they can help those drones. At one point the Queen finds that place and send drones in and the voyager crew also goes and there's a big virtual fight.

Not quite the same but close enough imho.

Chuf
Jun 28, 2011

I had that weird dream again.
I understand the hate for Lexa's death in and of itself but not the hate for the way it was done. Sure it bears some similarity to Tara in Buffy but Lexa's wasn't a meaningless death; it was accidental, yes, but the letting us know about the commander AI is a pretty huge plot point and her death serves a valuable purpose of both moving the plot forward and providing us with insight into grounder history and beliefs.

I'm betting the next Commander is that ice nation girl so a) they/we don't have to endure a child actor and b) so they can get Roan back in the picture.

How long until the next episode? :ohdear:

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
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Robutt posted:

How long until the next episode? :ohdear:
Probably not until the internet isnt mad anymore.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting
Or soon. You never know!

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
Should be tonight.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Antifreeze Head posted:

Should be tonight.

The show has literally been off so long that I forgot that it airs on Thursdays and not Wednesdays.

Chuf
Jun 28, 2011

I had that weird dream again.
drat I won't be able to watch until tomorrow. Here's hoping that the inevitable Bellamy redemption arc isn't as poorly handled as his weird Pike idolatry.

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Jun 5, 2009

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:siren: S3 E9 Stealing Fire :siren:

Clarke makes a shocking discovery, and Octavia must make a decision that could lead to devastating consequences.

New episode! Wonder who's gonna die tonight.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
Apparently there are still eight or nine episodes to go this season? Have we met the group that is going to get genocided yet? Or will Clarke turn on her own people and demolish all of Arkadia with an apocalyptic killdozer?

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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In a shocking twist, no groups are genocided this season! :eek:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
The farm station people have been genocided already, as has one of the tribal settlements including their army.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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True enough - Farm Station was almost completely destroyed, and the Trikru 300+ army was murdered. What more do people want?

Gaussian
Sep 20, 2001

I'll give you a box of chocolates if you kill me.




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hollylolly posted:

True enough - Farm Station was almost completely destroyed, and the Trikru 300+ army was murdered. What more do people want?
300+ seems to be the going rate for genocide on this show. Face it folks, we may have already met our genocide quota for the season.

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Jun 5, 2009

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Personally I'm really hoping for more Prince King Roan this season. More Asgeda! With the ascension of a new Commander and Asgeda having a pocket Nightblood available (who is older than all the other Nightbloods) I assume that we'll see them tonight.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

What do you guys think the pidgin etymology of Asgeda is?

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zoux posted:

What do you guys think the pidgin etymology of Asgeda is?

According to the Trigedasleng (tri = tree, geda = gathering, sleng = language/slang) wiki "az" = ice, and "geda" = gathering. They spell it Azgeda.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Good work, gumshoe!

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Antifreeze Head posted:

Apparently there are still eight or nine episodes to go this season? Have we met the group that is going to get genocided yet? Or will Clarke turn on her own people and demolish all of Arkadia with an apocalyptic killdozer?

We have already met Arkadia :twisted:

I hope they die.

Chuf
Jun 28, 2011

I had that weird dream again.
Arkadia can loving burn after electing Pike. But please let Kane live :ohdear:. If any death could make me stop watching the show it would be sweet old Desmond.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001




Here we go again!

Spergatory
Oct 28, 2012
Welp, not that it wasn't before, but it's definitely clear now why Octavia winds up beating the unholy christ out of Bellamy.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
This show is just loving dumb now. Jason and the rest of the writing team so obviously bought into all the fan and media hype around the show being so dark and mature for a network TV show in the aftermath of Season 2. I remember following his and the writing team's twitter last summer and fall and they were all constantly retweeting every article about how the 100 was darker and more deadly than Game of Thrones and poo poo like that. They have completely lost the plot by trying to constantly one-up themselves at being as grimdark edgy as possible and it shows.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
I don't think this episode was any more edgy or grimdark than the show has been from from the start. By episode four we had a 10 year old girl kill a guy, let another guy get hung in her place, and then commit suicide.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Clarke is right that their succession plan is really stupid. Get all the rare blooded kids and have them battle royale to the death.

Haha Murphy peeping the new commander.

:rip: Titus and Lincoln

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Jan 21, 2015

Haha... Lincoln and the rest of the entitled children are dead. That loving rules.

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