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AFAIK selling stolen mission slaves to Robigo still works. So... uh. I have no idea where to ask this, so I might as well ask here, maybe someone came fiddled with this before. My throttle has two detents on it. AFAIK, they can be moved around if I take the thing apart with a screwdriver, but I'd rather leave that as a last resort. What I want to achieve is have the ship on full reverse when throttle is at 0, stopped on the first detent, blue zone forward on the 2nd and full throttle at 100. Is there any way to achieve this in elite itself that I'm not seeing? If not, does anyone have a solution to this? I found some joystick curves thing on the webs but while it's very nice it only works correctly for -50 - +50 axis (i.e. pitch/roll) axis and not for 0-100 ones, because it modifies both extremes of an axis. e: Of course after I ask this I find out moving the deadzone of the throttle in control panel also moves the "center". Good enough for now. Truga fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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KakerMix posted:You'd figure that Imperial-built outposts would always accommodate Imperial-specific ships. Imagine you are some Duke of Imperialisms and you are going to an outpost somewhere to check up on your slave holdings. Are you really telling me that I can't land my pimped-out Clipper at my outpost? Imps must not be as ostentatious as they think they are. Sir, I'm sorry there's nothing we can do. Sir, please stop screaming.
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RabidWeasel posted:They hosed up hard with the limited amount of granularity on module sizes - going up or down a size class on FSD or power distributor or hardpoints is a huge jump in effectiveness so there just isn't that much 'play' in the system for them to make a variety of effective ships. This is why unladen hull mass is such a clusterfuck stat, because it's the only way that they can make ships have meaningfully different jump ranges (like taking an asp from C5 to C4 FSD makes it go from 30+ LY range to ~14-15LY) The only mechanics in the game that doesn't rely on hidden magic numbers for each hull are the FSD stuff and cargo. Maneuverability, power plant, speed are all pure magic number. Their fitting system and the stats behind the ships are probably the biggest lingering time bomb in the game right now.
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Mar 31, 2016 04:51
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tooterfish posted:It's python sized. It's not mass that makes it "large" (it's lighter than the python AFAIK), it's the nacelles. Both the Panther Clipper and the Beluga Liner look nice and make me wish they were already in the game. Especially the Beluga Liner.  Of course, I have no idea how the Panther Clipper is supposed to fit through the mail slot, isn't the Type-9 already filling it out almost completely? And the Panther Clipper is even larger.  Edit: Or the picture isn't entirely accurate, because I'm sure the Federal Corvette is a lot smaller then this shows.
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Mar 31, 2016 11:43
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It's an old picture, the ships coloured green are just guestimates (read the key!).
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The Type 9 is only about 10 meters wider than the Clipper. The Beluga could be a good 60 meters wider than that and still have plenty of room in the slot for a Cobra to squeak by on the side while flying sideways. For anyone interested in actual ship dimensions: http://www.elite-dangerous-blog.co.uk/Blog/2016/2/19/elite-ship-sizes-to-scale-for-all-ships-post-horizons-launch
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Libluini posted:Both the Panther Clipper and the Beluga Liner look nice and make me wish they were already in the game. Especially the Beluga Liner.
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Truga posted:AFAIK selling stolen mission slaves to Robigo still works. What kind of joystick do you have?
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Phi230 posted:What kind of joystick do you have? It's a saitek x-65
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So I know I'm one of the most zealous posters about how We Do Not Buy Saitek, but, uh... http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x56.html Right now I think a T-16000M and a CH throttle is the best thing for elite, but I can personally testify to how it sucks to not have trim dials in an atmospheric flight sim like War Thunder or DCS. A hotas that can do both space sims and flight sims sounds really nice 
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What they should have done: - Remove the pointless LEDs - Reshape the stick for better ergonomics - Add a two stage trigger and CMS hat like the Warthog - Replace the lovely mini-stick on the throttle with a good one What they actually did: - Doubled down on the pointless LEDs - Put another, probably still lovely, mini-stick on the joystick (what is this even supposed to be used for?) - It's blue now Mad Catz, you god drat idiots.
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Mar 31, 2016 20:11
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The mini stick on the x55 (and x52s) are lovely mouse widgets. They have zero sensitivity, If the mini stick on this new one is actually a mini stick like on a CH throttle, then that's actually pretty loving sweet. It enables analogue control of directional thrusters.
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For the love of all that is holy do not preorder that Saitek stick.
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Mar 31, 2016 20:24
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No danger of that, I already returned three faulty x55s. Like the man said: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me three times, go gently caress yourself. I'm just saying, mini sticks are sweet!
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tooterfish posted:If the mini stick on this new one is actually a mini stick like on a CH throttle, then that's actually pretty loving sweet. It enables analogue control of directional thrusters. I admit I assumed this was the case already. If they put up all this talk about 6dof space games and didn't make one of them a real actual mini stick, I'll travel to wherever they hail from and shove the thing down their stupid throats
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:So I know I'm one of the most zealous posters about how We Do Not Buy Saitek, but, uh... http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x56.html That HOTAS looks disgustingly awful anyway. If I was planning on replacing my CH stick (I'm not) then I'd wait for the next round of VKB preorders.
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DancingShade posted:That HOTAS looks disgustingly awful anyway. VKB? That's not on my radar, I don't even know what that means
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They're a peripheral/joystick company from the motherland, comrade. They make this, probably the best budget joystick out there (including the T16000): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsrt_Sc4Seo They make higher quality joysticks too, on par with the more expensive Thrustmaster stuff. And they're apparently developing a new modular HOTAS, although it doesn't look all that spectacular tbh. edit: more info.
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tooterfish posted:They're a peripheral/joystick company from the motherland, comrade. Oooooh right, I remember these guys. They make the rad poo poo that's always sold out everywhere
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:So I know I'm one of the most zealous posters about how We Do Not Buy Saitek, but, uh... http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x56.html As a former owner of an X-52 pro (which I loved but replaced with a HOTAS Warthog) I can personally testify to how lovely those dials are for trimming an aircraft. They don't have nearly enough range or sensitivity and will send you porpoising all over the sky. You get much better results using the hat switch.
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tooterfish posted:If the mini stick on this new one is actually a mini stick like on a CH throttle, then that's actually pretty loving sweet. It enables analogue control of directional thrusters. It's wonderful, so wonderful for the directional thrusters. Easily my favorite part of the CH gear when it comes to ED.
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I eventually found the mouse joystick in my device manager and disabled the thing because for no reason and at random it would go 'lol your head will look down now until you reboot' X52 maybe, Pro? I think not.
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My favorite thing about that x56 page is that both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous are listed twice in the games list. Gotta be honest it looks pretty sweet from an aesthetic standpoint but that's probably just because I'm a sucker for customizable LED backlighting.
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Comments on the X56 from the company on Reddit. If legit then that's cool. https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/4cpv6m/saitek_x56_pro/ "every part in the HOTAS has been completely retooled in order to fine tune the tolerances even further." "the new X-56 has been completely re-engineered from the ground up to address feedback received from the simulation community and incorporates new materials, increased switchgear life cycles and new graphics." ... "Trust me: we're listening" "We've included a removable hand rest that pushes your hand up further and brings everything more comfortably into reach."
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Hamelekim posted:Comments on the X56 from the company on Reddit. If legit then that's cool. It would be best to reserve judgment until someone buys one and does a teardown review so we can see the internals.
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Yeah, prudent to wait. Some youtube "reviewers" in the sim community shilled pretty hard for the x55 when it came out. I remember the words "I like it so much I don't even use my CH products stuff any more", which was obviously complete loving bollocks in hindsight.
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Eh, I guess it's fairly subjective. I love my x65 and it's good as gently caress, but yeah, it also has a mini stick, not just the dumb mouse nipple.
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The X65 was also from before MadCatz bought them, and in general was a cool as hell stick that was just too weird to live.
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What is the point of LEDs on a stick that's "Ideal for use whilst wearing a HMD"?
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DreadLlama posted:What is the point of LEDs on a stick that's "Ideal for use whilst wearing a HMD"? Especially when it's already covered in blue accents that can't be changed and will clash horribly with about half the colors you can set those LEDs to. I thought that was a really weird choice
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It's like putting guns on an exploration ship. You may have space for them, but it's just extra expense.
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Heh, truth. I would happily take a discounted version with no LEDs. Still gonna wait for a teardown before ordering, but the reddit thread does make it sound promising. Speaking of the X55's stupid mouse nipple... A friend offered to lend me his spare X55 throttle for free, so I'm considering sending my CH throttle back. It's still within amazon's return window, and while it's better than the X55 throttle, I don't know if it's $130 better. Are there any workarounds to get the mouse nipple working like a proper mini stick in Elite? I thought I read something about someone getting it to not totally suck at lateral thrust control
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:I thought I read something about someone getting it to not totally suck at lateral thrust control You need to do some regedit things to disable some other axis to make space for the x and y axes of the mini stick (because most games seem to support only 8 axis and 32 buttons per joystick (except star citizen, don't ask why I know this)). Then you disable the mouse functionality in the pro flight software and it behaves like a normal joystick I don't have the link to it right now but I'll try to find it in about... 30 minutes.
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Truga posted:You need to do some regedit things to disable some other axis to make space for the x and y axes of the mini stick (because most games seem to support only 8 axis and 32 buttons per joystick (except star citizen, don't ask why I know this)). Then you disable the mouse functionality in the pro flight software and it behaves like a normal joystick My hero 
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So, I'm tempted to try to get this game to check it out, but the $60 price tag seems a little steep--I know the base game is $30, but from what I've read it's more expensive than the double pack or something if I wanna upgrade later? So, is it worth it, or should I wait for a sale? Edit: And is there a good steam controller config for this? I pretty much use my computer from the couch so I've got a wireless keyboard/trackpad combo that's not the best for gaming. DMW45 fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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A steam controller is probably your best bet for couch play, because it's the unholy result of a hatefuck between an Xbox controller and kb/m. As with all titles, expect to loving hate it until you find that perfect layout, at which point you'll wonder why this isn't the only way you play anything (until the next time you have to come up with a layout)
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:My hero Oh hey, good news - you don't have to unmap any axis on the x-55 for it to work: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/2rudl0/xpost_rhotas_how_to_turn_x55_mouse_ministick_into/ e: For anyone on an x52 or x65 wanting to do this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1060705&postcount=12 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1060211&postcount=1 I *think* the x52-pro uses the same values as the vanilla x52, but I'm not sure. If it doesn't you just have to find what your device ID is in the device manager and edit the .reg appropriately, though. Fairly easy stuff. Truga fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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I sorta gave up on the idea of using the X52 mouse nub for lateral trusters because it's just not very good at reading angles. It's ok for headlook if you don't try to move in diagonals too much. Analog for thrusters is really nice for precise maneuvering around landing pads but not such a big deal elsewhere I think.
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I finally uploaded some old screenshots I made. Since I don't want to spam this thread like mad, I decided to spread them apart a bit. Also I'm posting them on my blog, so if pictures of deep space annoy you, you won't even need to scroll past my post! The Day of the Clipper
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