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Exmond
May 31, 2007

Writing is fun!

Cat Face Joe posted:

I rescind my statement about PanO being left out.

Ariadna say's hi, can we get some hackers? (I think we get the warcor hacker?)

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grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
You'll get the intern from Corregidor and you'll like it.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Exmond posted:

Ariadna say's hi, can we get some hackers? (I think we get the warcor hacker?)

You got the entire USAR.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


ariadna players are such whiny bitches even in this thread

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Re: Haqq: vanilla and QK look pretty left out in the cold, but Hassassins are getting a ton of new toys. I gotta admit that a mixed Muyib+Asawira Haris team sounds pretty amazing.

Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum

Not a viking posted:

Its still S2, which is kind of ridiculous. I can imagine having to swap it with the actual silouette so many times during a game that I'll just use the legate model instead of buying this.

Ah, so its actual weakness is that its unplayable because the model is... twice as tall as the silhouette?

Black_Nexus
Mar 15, 2007

Nurgle loves ya

Flipswitch posted:

ariadna players are such whiny bitches even in this thread

Not sure why, we have tons of toys

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Corbeau posted:

Re: Haqq: vanilla and QK look pretty left out in the cold, but Hassassins are getting a ton of new toys. I gotta admit that a mixed Muyib+Asawira Haris team sounds pretty amazing.

Tons of little leaks springing out. I'm like a junkie trying to hoover up my fix of information. What irks me a bit is people post on a forum some sort of incomplete info that's not even a coherent sentence. I mean, if you can't be bothered to use words, why are you bothering to tell people?

Seriously, tons of fresh interesting profiles, and some nice balance/profile changes that revitalise some more tired units.

EDIT: :siren: SENOR MASSACRE HARIS OR CORE LINK WITH JAGUARS :siren:

Genghis Cohen fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Mar 31, 2016

Hortism
Oct 25, 2010

Few photos popping up of a new ISS starter. Good lord was that overdue.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Teutons apparently get hosed though. Hospitallers get cheaper, Teutons get nothing at all.

alchahest
Dec 28, 2004
Universal Solvent
Teutons are cheap BS14, CC21 with berserk and exp ccw, decently tough. they're not really hurting, they just need a different set of tactics from the other military orders.

that's not to say that getting more profiles wouldn't be great, I just don't think the existing ones are particularly subpar. It's not really "Getting hosed".

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
They're utterly outperformed by Hospitallers, including on a cost basis. If by different tactics you mean "losing" then sure.

Teutons were legit pre-N3 because they were 4-4 and other knights were 4-2, but they didn't get as drastic a price cut as they'd need to compete with 4-4 specialist HI with stealth.

Corbeau fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Apr 1, 2016

alchahest
Dec 28, 2004
Universal Solvent
I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think it's as dire as you're stating. Maybe it's because I always get both shots out of my panserfausts, but they do some good work at BS14 on the way in, for me. I'm not saying that hospitaliers aren't better - they are. But there's a point cost difference involved too. We also tend to play with all kinds of terrain, not just urban, so your mileage might vary there as well. This isn't a hill I'm gonna die on, I appreciate your concerns with the profile and I would definitely not turn down buffing them (though I personally don't feel it's super required).

-edit-

I should note that I also play Morat, so I try to ensure we have lots of jungle terrain games. I want to get every bit of use out of my profiles.

alchahest fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Apr 1, 2016

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

Whassis I hear about Magisters linking with Up to 2 Hospitaller or Up to 2 Santiago Knights now?
Some something about them not being able to link without those Knights present?!
Why did I paint everything Teutonic?

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Laphroaig posted:

Ah, so its actual weakness is that its unplayable because the model is... twice as tall as the silhouette?

And wide by the looks of it. I can't imagine the pain of having it stand next to a building for cover.

MisterShine
Feb 21, 2006

Did the Druze ever get their White Stars Conpany or whatever? I've been out of this game for years and I loved the Druze models so bad and that poo poo has been coming "next book" for several books now I think

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Ahhahahhaha now Hospitallers get to link with Magisters to make their link even cheaper. Not to mention add Panzerfaust AROs to their link.

How is this not the most blatant dumpstering of Teutons? I literally cannot think of a reason to bring a Teuton link over a Hospitaller/Magister link.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


You own Teutons and not Hospitallers and live in a bizarre no proxies allowed meta is the best I've got. Wish Hospitallers had some good sculpts though.

I am digging the amount of mixed unit links CB is bringing into the game.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
I really like Teuton fluff, but I've been proxying them as Hospitallers since the first few weeks after N3 dropped.

Now... that will probably never change. Or, more likely, I'll buy some Hospitallers when they're resculpted and just proxy my Teutons as Magisters.

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

I live with a hateful and devastating disability; I am much more inclined to bash my head against un-optimized units in preference to proxying.
Also, like Corbeau, really like the Teuton fluff.

I chose them in N2 because 4-4 and I didn't much care for Armour; now they are just lackluster.

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

Scrying this information from a bad photo was a pain; I retyped what I could and I think that this implies that Teutons aren't linkable anymore.
From Bad to Worse.

Am I incorrect?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Holy poo poo I took one look at the Yu Jing improvements :awesome:

Celestials get a BS FO option
Baos seems slightly discounted, major changes in loadouts, some trade MSV2 for Biometric Visor L2
Kempeitai get Number 2 and are linkable with Keisotsu
Pheasant: gets MA2, CC+2, DACCW and is discounted like 2 points, also Free Agent in standard. Tons of new profiles, Red Fury option, Marksmanship X on sniper
Raiden gets Courage, HRL one gets minelayer with standard mines
Shang Ji get Duo, HRL profile, Tinbot B profile
Domaru get Duo, also with Oyama, oyama has pistol upgraded to breaker pistol and is cheaper
Karakuri lose explode, get Dogged, additional combi profile with Haris skill
Shikami - new unit (already mentioned), JSA ODD HI specialist CC murderers with climbing+, superjump, and Duo
Su Jian gets Duo
O-Yoroi gets MA1 (stealth!) and CC21, including the pilot
Kanren - new unit, ISS holo2 skirmisher with chain-colt, MA1 and monoCCW, Madtraps, predeployed Sniffers, cheap specialist options
Sun Tze 2.0 Mov 4-2, +1 BS, +3 BTS trades X2 Visor for MSV1 and Marksmanship 1, gets nanopulser and flash pulse on everything, +7pts
Zhanying get 2 new profiles (HRL?)
Yan Huo 2ML gets a profile with Tinbot C - Neurocinetics!
Wu Ming get new profiles - HRL/LS, Duo combi/EMitter, Duo chain/SMG
Hac Tao killerHD
Ninja bow+killerHD (TO specialist for 29/0! :neckbeard:)
Dakini back to AVA2 in ISS

Yummy linkables:

Pheasant + Bao haris
Hsien + Zhanying haris
1-3 Cranes + CG Core
1 Zhanying + Wu Ming core
Kuang Shi linkable with their controller
Kempeitai + Keisotsu
Karakuri haris
1-2 Domaru in Haramaki core
Neko Oyama linkable with Domaru, Haramaki, or mix

:china::hf::japan:

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Apr 1, 2016

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

I am really digging the way that CB is using the "Linkables" combinations to amp up the flavour of the armies; I saw similar awesome combinations from my mate talking about his Caledonians.
Super pleased with HSN3 so far, even if may not be able to link Teutons anymore, and cannot have a core link of Magisters without using up my Confrere allotment...wait.

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
So, out of curiosity, how does Executive Order on the Hac Tao actually function? Does it work if you use Hidden Deployment (which would put you into LoL I assume)? Do you have to deploy as a marker to get it to work? Can he take charge in a later turn if he pops out of hiding and you're not already in LoL?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Full transcribed AVA Tables:

http://pastebin.com/raw/k4Q3Zb9X

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

Holy poo poo I took one look at the Yu Jing improvements :awesome:

Celestials get a BS FO option
Baos seems slightly discounted, major changes in loadouts, some trade MSV2 for Biometric Visor L2
Kempeitai get Number 2 and are linkable with Keisotsu
Pheasant: gets MA2, CC+2, DACCW and is discounted like 2 points, also Free Agent in standard. Tons of new profiles, Red Fury option, Marksmanship X on sniper
Raiden gets Courage, HRL one gets minelayer with standard mines
Shang Ji get Duo, HRL profile, Tinbot B profile
Domaru get Duo, also with Oyama, oyama has pistol upgraded to breaker pistol and is cheaper
Karakuri lose explode, get Dogged, additional combi profile with Haris skill
Shikami - new unit (already mentioned), JSA ODD HI specialist CC murderers with climbing+, superjump, and Duo
Su Jian gets Duo
O-Yoroi gets MA1 (stealth!) and CC21, including the pilot
Kanren - new unit, ISS holo2 skirmisher with chain-colt, MA1 and monoCCW, Madtraps, predeployed Sniffers, cheap specialist options
Sun Tze 2.0 Mov 4-2, +1 BS, +3 BTS trades X2 Visor for MSV1 and Marksmanship 1, gets nanopulser and flash pulse on everything, +7pts
Zhanying get 2 new profiles (HRL?)
Yan Huo 2ML gets a profile with Tinbot C - Neurocinetics!
Wu Ming get new profiles - HRL/LS, Duo combi/EMitter, Duo chain/SMG
Hac Tao killerHD
Ninja bow+killerHD (TO specialist for 29/0! :neckbeard:)
Dakini back to AVA2 in ISS

Yummy linkables:

Pheasant + Bao haris
Hsien + Zhanying haris
1-3 Cranes + CG Core
1 Zhanying + Wu Ming core
Kuang Shi linkable with their controller
Kempeitai + Keisotsu
Karakuri haris
1-2 Domaru in Haramaki core
Neko Oyama linkable with Domaru, Haramaki, or mix

:china::hf::japan:
what about for factions people actually like the players of?

But lol@ Neurocinotics Yan Huo, that is pretty rude.

E: Orcs are Haris linkable in NCA.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Apr 1, 2016

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Flipswitch posted:

what about for factions people actually like the players of?
CA is next :v:

Then the rear end in a top hat factions aka pano/aleph/ariadna.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


don't forget nomads, nobody likes those guys *hides case full of Bakunin and Corregidor*.

Pre-ordered my book today at my LGS, our pre-order numbers are a bit :stare:.

Signal
Dec 10, 2005

*sits in the corner with his Haqq mans, forgotten*

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


I should really assemble this Marut I bought a year ago.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Signal posted:

*sits in the corner with his Haqq mans, forgotten*

:(:hf::(

Can we get a third sectorial? How about the tag that was in the first N3 book?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Deviant posted:

I should really assemble this Marut I bought a year ago.

I should really assemble anything I bought a year ago :v:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Yu Jing and CA changes from the new book:

http://pastebin.com/raw/HFU2QXif

ed: PanO:

http://pastebin.com/raw/KPmtBTiz

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Apr 1, 2016

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Waite, the new CA TAGs have wounds? I'm assuming thats a c/p error.

A cheap Lt in the form of the nexus operative is going to be useful in a CA sectorial without any G:Mnemonica.

What does Albedo do?

Thanks!

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Not a viking posted:

Waite, the new CA TAGs have wounds? I'm assuming thats a c/p error.

A cheap Lt in the form of the nexus operative is going to be useful in a CA sectorial without any G:Mnemonica.

What does Albedo do?

I double-check, and yes they do in fact have W in the book. Makes sense, Batroids are part-organic.

Albedo is a personal White Noise effect (makes you invisible to MSV units) for one turn.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Pierzak posted:

Albedo is a personal White Noise effect (makes you invisible to MSV units) for one turn.

For one round - starts at deployment and goes for 2 player turns.

It seems like sectorials in general were the big winners here, with better link team options boosting them. Ariadna doesn't seem to have got many profile changes, although CHA got massively boosted by all its new fireteam options.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

What is Acontecimento's best choice for a hacker in N3? I presume a Naga?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

dishwasherlove posted:

What is Acontecimento's best choice for a hacker in N3? I presume a Naga?

Basic N3, or HSN3? They get some fun options like Scylla or a Regular LGL hacker with FastPanda.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Pierzak posted:


Kuang Shi linkable with their controller


:china::hf::japan:



ahahahahaha get loving dunked on every other faction that is some BS right there

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dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

Pierzak posted:

Basic N3, or HSN3? They get some fun options like Scylla or a Regular LGL hacker with FastPanda.

Oh yes I forgot about the Greeks.

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