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Basically everything in that CO2 log happened with TEST. They came to us as a barely functional alliance, kept demanding things that they didn't deserve, kept blaming us for their own internal fuckups, etc. Their final straw of being pushed around by the CFC was when Mittani said "don't use our Jabber to plot to kill our ally FA".
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Magres posted:Whatever happened to sour things so much between test and goons? Short version: TEST became inundated with shitlers, most of Dreddit's good people fled to Fweddit, we murdered what was left of TEST in cold blood, and they've hated us ever since. Longer version: Montolio decided that he wanted power and prestige, and pulled TEST out of the CFC to start his own megacoalition in Fountain, the HBC (Honeybadger Coalition) -- and largely did it with our blessing, with the CFC keeping TEST blue. His megacoalition grew fast, but turned sour quickly. They started having border skirmishes with FA, which led to a mutual reset. Then, the R64 rebalance came in, we realized that Fountain was a gold mine and that we didn't really like TEST anymore, so CFC started an invasion of Fountain, which turned into the Fountain War, which we won. TEST was left without space and ended up putzing around Faction Warfare for years, then finally came to prominence again when Fozziesov came out.
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oh yeah i remember reading about montolio going loving bonkers didnt he have a complete meltdown over losing the fountain war or something E: to be clear it sucks that he was having problems like that, and i hope he's doing better it's also funny as poo poo when people have meltdowns over internet spaceships Magres fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Apr 1, 2016 21:03
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Magres posted:oh yeah i remember reading about montolio going loving bonkers i think it was his replacement booda that really completely lost it when they lost the war
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Magres posted:oh yeah i remember reading about montolio going loving bonkers He didn't go bonkers. He acted like a typical redditor. Entitled, socially stunted, and a lot dumber than his perception of himself. It is the fate of all reddit-based alliances. Eventually we'll have to put down the Karmafleet horse, years down the road.
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What happened to that whole "you don't leak diplo stuff because nobody will ever trust you" kinda thing?
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Apr 1, 2016 21:08
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when I fake logs I make sure to do three years of it
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SperginMcBadposter posted:What happened to that whole "you don't leak diplo stuff because nobody will ever trust you" kinda thing? Pretty sure when you betray longtime allies you are no longer entitled to be treated like anything other than a dead man walking.
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SperginMcBadposter posted:What happened to that whole "you don't leak diplo stuff because nobody will ever trust you" kinda thing? Oh no now co2 won't trust us!
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Apr 1, 2016 21:11
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man for like the first hour of reading about the war right after the poo poo with co2 happened i was really confused cause I kept reading about Circle Of Two and CO2 and going "wait who are these circle of two jerks and why is there a carbon dioxide alliance"
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So, goons winning this one?
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Arcsquad12 posted:So, goons winning this one? yep
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For those interested, there is a TL:DR/Epitaph at the end which summarizes most of the major points. If you want to find the best stuff it is easily the drama regarding ITAI. The rest of it is more of a narrative of growing greed.
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Arcsquad12 posted:So, goons winning this one? Yes. Our enemies are finding out the hard way that you can't just make Big Turnout Hurfposts and magically blob your way to a new nullsec. You actually need to coordinate your poo poo and show up to the right timers on time, properly account for TiDi, and win sov objectives as a result. For all the whinging about "goon blobbing" that our enemies harp, they always conveniently overlook the real reasons for our history of success in bloc warfare: our superior organization and strategy.
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Arcsquad12 posted:So, goons winning this one? Yup! We've gone back to our roots of being massive dicks and providing no fun allowed to elite pvp tryhards.
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A couple of questions? How long ago was the Fountain War? I remember I tried out Eve back then, but I can't remember how long ago it was Also, so I'm watching the TMC twitch stream, why is this guy wearing a weird hat? Is this delayed? He can't be talking about tactics in realtime, right? Also, is there a better stream to watch to keep up to date on this stuff? Similarly, everyone is talking poo poo about TMC, where should I go to get news about things that are going on (besides this thread)?
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I'll check back in when someone has lost 100 supers, worthless or not.
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dragonstalking posted:GigX and CO2 are retards and eastern euro scum, this isn't news and it's disingenuous to pretend it's just about what they're like on a personal basis. You might want to iron out your talking points with your valued allies in test alliance and your chosen community of reddit because they are hailing co2 as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Arcsquad12 posted:So, goons winning this one? Well they've lost Vale, Tenal, Tribute, and a gently caress load of ships, isk, and members. But hey they won 1 ihub timer today and have a station timer coming up so we'll see?
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ullerrm posted:Short version: TEST became inundated with shitlers, most of Dreddit's good people fled to Fweddit, we murdered what was left of TEST in cold blood, and they've hated us ever since. The lead up to the test war was AMAZING and the most fun I've ever had in eve online. Black Ops was deployed and we were loving massacring TEST's blues while still blue to TEST. We were taking TEST's own JB system to hunt down their allies. There were quite a few hilarious moments where we'd kill one of TEST's blues on their own jump bridge and TEST would lock us all up like they were gonna shoot first but never did.
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crew posted:You might want to iron out your talking points with your valued allies in test alliance and your chosen community of reddit because they are hailing co2 as the greatest thing since sliced bread. What do you expect from a reddit-based alliance? "They're great now so they've always been great!"
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Lets say I want to roll around entosising the systems that get taken. What's the best ship to do it in? Interceptor? Seems like anything else will just get caught and blobbed eventually.
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dragonstalking posted:Well they've lost Vale, Tenal, Tribute, and a gently caress load of ships, isk, and members. Since your goal is the destruction of the Imperium you still have a lot of work to do. But I know how this is going to play out: You will lose interest in about 2 weeks and go to somewhere else while declaring victory. The usual stuff.
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ranbo das posted:Lets say I want to roll around entosising the systems that get taken. What's the best ship to do it in? Interceptor? Seems like anything else will just get caught and blobbed eventually. You can't entosis in an interceptor. The boats of choice for basically both sides are the Prophecy or Drake, Maller if you're cheap.
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Hubbl3 posted:Since your goal is the destruction of the Imperium you still have a lot of work to do. But I know how this is going to play out: You will lose interest in about 2 weeks and go to somewhere else while declaring victory. The usual stuff. Would you say we're not winning fast enough?
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scandoslav posted:Yeah it takes a real wordsmith to plagiarize a press release. I made $300 a month off TMC doing that  GaussianCopula posted:Is it just me or does Mittani do a really, really good Hardcore History Dan Carlin impression? It's just you. Speaking of, Blueprint for Amageddon is super good.
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Endie posted:Would you say we're not winning fast enough? endie it turns out you have some great friends in co2
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Endie posted:Would you say we're not winning fast enough? You have fought countless wars against the people you are now flying with. You know them better than I do. SO this time it is going to be different?
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If the attackers end up taking the UQ9 station timer and freeporting the station, will FCON still receive ADM bonuses from holding the iHub when the station next becomes vulnerable to attack, or will it be a case of no auto-regen on nodes and starting the entosis battle at 50%? e: nevermind, found an explanation from CCP: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203649402-Station-Freeport-Mode LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Rhymenoserous posted:Tone and delivery can really change perception. Jersey Johnson could have written the same articles Sion has in his own language and with his particular sense of humor and gotten a radically different response. Honestly, I'm surprised people actually enjoy my EVE ~diplomatic update~ videos or whatever you want to call them. I think I sound boring as gently caress. Nietzschean posted:MEGATHRONS MOTHERFUCKER DON'T YOU EVER FORGET Baltec vs Baltec Fleet 
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Hey, don't respond to that dragonstalking guy
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Endie posted:Would you say we're not winning fast enough? Given how goons always get off to slow starts in wars before showing their ~true form~... Yes? 
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Endie posted:Would you say we're not winning fast enough? Endie come back why would you think life amongst the pedophile apologists of PL and TEST is better
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dragonstalking posted:Well they've lost Vale, Tenal, Tribute, and a gently caress load of ships, isk, and members. After the fairly dramatic change of events during the fountain war, I would have thought TEST members would avoid counting chickens before they've hatched, but why change what works?
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Unfunny Poster posted:Honestly, I'm surprised people actually enjoy my EVE ~diplomatic update~ videos or whatever you want to call them. I think I sound boring as gently caress. For me, I'm just happy to have an EVE videographer who has an accent that I can comprehend.  (Seriously I like delonewolf's stuff, but more than half the time I can't make out what he's actually saying and after a few minutes the constant rising of pitch thing he does at the end of every sentence makes me want to gouge my ears out.  )
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Deofuta posted:After the fairly dramatic change of events during the fountain war, I would have thought TEST members would avoid counting chickens before they've hatched, but why change what works? Oh god that first month of losing HAM caracals to kiting talwars....
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Fix Lag posted:endie it turns out you have some great friends in co2 I know right: ctrl-f "Endie" (you would, too) "2 mentions wtf blawrf gets 73?!?" But I got on the first page because in some alliance update in four years ago I am the great traitor and I said they were loyal allies THE PROSECUTION RESTS. That whole 100 page heap of logleaks struck me as deeply idgi.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Honestly, I'm surprised people actually enjoy my EVE ~diplomatic update~ videos or whatever you want to call them. I think I sound boring as gently caress. I was just about to point out -- Baltec1 is one of Endie's boys.
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