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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Sure, but the main inspirations were Welsh for Sindarin, and Finnish for Quenya. He was really into Kalevala at one point. The story of Turin Turambar is more or less Kullervo with elves and dragons.

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Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

doverhog posted:

Sure, but the main inspirations were Welsh for Sindarin, and Finnish for Quenya. He was really into Kalevala at one point. The story of Turin Turambar is more or less Kullervo with elves and dragons.

Yeah, his son's The Children of Húrin is really good. Especially the audiobook read by Christopher Lee.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Have read Keskeneräisten tarujen kirja which has the Narn i Hîn Húrin fragment but should definitely check out the new version some time.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
should've known you guys go crazy over children's books

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
they're not children's books MOOOM!

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
And you, dear Nauta, what do you go crazy for? Swedish avatars and a lack of femmas? Jokes aside must be ice hockey, go Leijonat.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
i hate ice hockey

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
It's okay to watch during world championships, but you didn't answer the question.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
wrestling, archery and horseback riding

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Did you know, elves are famous for both archery and mastery of horses. Check out Tolkien, you might like it.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

doverhog posted:

It's okay to watch during world championships, but you didn't answer the question.

same, i cant be arsed to watch sadomaso league

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Yesssss!!


Also, great job defending literal censorship itt

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
mikä tunnus on vasemmainpuoleisimmassa kilvessä

ja mikä on se trikolori suomen oikealla puolella

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Please quote the post in which someone defended it.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF

doverhog posted:

Did you know, elves are famous for both archery and mastery of horses. Check out Tolkien, you might like it.

i know, i've read them


Hogge Wild posted:

mikä tunnus on vasemmainpuoleisimmassa kilvessä

ja mikä on se trikolori suomen oikealla puolella

vasemmasta ei ole tietoa mutta tritetrakolori on saamelaisten lippu

Fushigi Yuugi fansub fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Apr 2, 2016

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Nauta posted:

i know, i've read them


vasemmasta ei ole tietoa mutta trikolori on saamelaisten lippu

eikö saamen lippu ole se missä on punaista ja pystyviivat

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
juu. en huomannu pikku viiriä

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

doverhog posted:

Please quote the post in which someone defended it.

Rexroom posted:

drat that YLE for denying our freedoms - even if it was the Kummeli guys who wanted to cut those sketches out. We need our casual racist Finnish humor, stuff like laplanders or gypsies.


Edit: and of course everyone who knee-jerk disagreed with Ligur

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Lol if people who make poo poo want it to be cut who the gently caress you are to say anything else? It's not like they are going with a mega-DMCA hunt through youtube, it's right there for anyone who lives in the 21st century to watch. I swear some people are the biggest crybabies ever


:qq: they should have sent a poet, well they did but we decapitated all of them because our skull pyramid wasn't nearly tall enough

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Apr 2, 2016

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
so are you saying that george lucas did the right thing?

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Are the old Kummelis being shown as historical artifacts, or as sketch shows. Why would you show old shows like that as legit sketch shows for today? That's the difference IMO on whether cutting or censorship is acceptable. So in this case I agree with ligur, shame.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Nauta posted:

so are you saying that george lucas did the right thing?

Like I don't agree with them in practice (though I get them in intent) but they are well within their rights to do whatever the gently caress they want with their own content.

That includes George Lucas. I've probably gotten more entertainment out of how lovely the prequels were then any halfway competent movie could have given me so it didn't turn out so bad

Too bad people actually think the latest Star Wars movie was good :(

doverhog posted:

Are the old Kummelis being shown as historical artifacts, or as sketch shows. Why would you show old shows like that as legit sketch shows for today? That's the difference IMO on whether cutting or censorship is acceptable. So in this case I agree with ligur, shame.

Kummeli is mostly pretty weak poo poo compared to some sketch shows on other countries being made right now, Finns are just so square. There doesn't need to be any context for it for anybody but the worst pearl clutchers.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Apr 2, 2016

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
SW talk: it was a reboot, and derivative and really obviously made to be an "apology" for the prequels, but as that, it was fine, and looking forward to the next one.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

doverhog posted:

SW talk: it was a reboot, and derivative and really obviously made to be an "apology" for the prequels, but as that, it was fine, and looking forward to the next one.

There is derivative and then there is holy loving poo poo am I dreaming or did I just loving pay for New Hope I II with a new paintjob hastily slapped on it.

Also they managed to find out the only person in the galaxy more whiny then Anakin loving Skywalker which is an accomplishment of sorts I guess

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Kylo Ren? He was one of the best parts, crazy rear end in a top hat who randomly breaks furniture or his dad because of his sad bad feelings. It was interesting and not like anything that was in New Hope.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

doverhog posted:

Kylo Ren? He was one of the best parts, crazy rear end in a top hat who randomly breaks furniture or his dad because of his sad bad feelings. It was interesting and not like anything that was in New Hope.

I don't get this

He was the worst villain I've probably seen ever. How the gently caress are you supposed to take him seriously without the mask? He looks like a mixture between one of those Japanese freaks who never leave their mom's closet and a burgeoning pedophile, and sounds somehow worse then either. His backstory sounded like lovely fanfiction, honestly easily prequel level bullshit. I don't even know what was up with the carbon copy Emperor, but I guess he just showed up out of somewhere I didn't really care about him with all that high-octane level BAD right there

10/10 kids movie though, kids don't give a crap though if I was a kid watching these in order and you gave me that dweeb after Darth Vader I'd be a little offended

Also a goddamn great movie to watch drunk/high with your friends (so I did in a way get my money's worth)

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Apr 2, 2016

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
i can confirm that it's not a very good movie even when high

if you like marvel movies then it's right up your alley tho

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
The new Darth Vader being a silly brat is interesting, more interesting than him being turbo Darth Vader 2.0. You really hate Adam Driver's face, voice and acting, ok.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
a mopey emo can never be a believable villain, sorry

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Darkest Auer posted:

Also, great job defending literal censorship itt

Do you even know what censorship means?

Also the new Star Wars was an OK popcorn flick.

Buffalo squeeze
Dec 19, 2010

Oh noble brogy. Overflowing with meaty wisdom and secret sauce.
Oh look, 35 new posts, what is Ligur up to now? No wait, it's a discussion about a 15 year old semi-funny sketch and Star Wars talk.

Anyway, you guys usually find stuff pretty fast. One of the arguments in the ongoing ythteiskuntasopimus negotiations is that all the pressure is being put on the workers to pay for for everything so that employers and companies are free to create more job. It's said that this was already tried and where are these jobs now.

Has työnantajat, EK or whoever, ever disclaimed this with stats or something? A 'look how bad things COULD have been'. Or is it just disregarded as leftist nonsense.

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008

Buffalo squeeze posted:

Has työnantajat, EK or whoever, ever disclaimed this with stats or something? A 'look how bad things COULD have been'. Or is it just disregarded as leftist nonsense.
Nope. It all boils down to "We just haven't been right-wing enough!".

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Stats only cover what actually happened not what might've, so they can't really prove something like that in either direction.

Buffalo squeeze
Dec 19, 2010

Oh noble brogy. Overflowing with meaty wisdom and secret sauce.

doverhog posted:

Stats only cover what actually happened not what might've, so they can't really prove something like that in either direction.

I meant that they could show which jobs where actually created (if any) by the last cuts, but whose effects where of course eaten by the recession.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Cerebral Bore posted:

Do you even know what censorship means?

Removing parts of cultural history from the public because they aren't compatible with socialist values corrupt the morale of the youth are supposedly mildly offensive to the bomb-waving maniacs?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Darkest Auer posted:

Removing parts of cultural history from the public because they aren't compatible with socialist values corrupt the morale of the youth are supposedly mildly offensive to the bomb-waving maniacs?

This is wrong.

And even if it were correct, nobody has removed anything from the public.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
no actually your wrong

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Buffalo squeeze posted:

Oh look, 35 new posts, what is Ligur up to now? No wait, it's a discussion about a 15 year old semi-funny sketch and Star Wars talk.

Anyway, you guys usually find stuff pretty fast. One of the arguments in the ongoing ythteiskuntasopimus negotiations is that all the pressure is being put on the workers to pay for for everything so that employers and companies are free to create more job. It's said that this was already tried and where are these jobs now.

Has työnantajat, EK or whoever, ever disclaimed this with stats or something? A 'look how bad things COULD have been'. Or is it just disregarded as leftist nonsense.

Just a reminder that they got a billion euro sized tax cut a couple of years ago as well. There were arguments that it would increase employment and there was even the Laffer argument that it will actually increase tax revenue thanks to the economy picking up.

Good thing we don't actually need that revenue for anything, like our schools and universities.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Hogge Wild posted:

mikä tunnus on vasemmainpuoleisimmassa kilvessä

ja mikä on se trikolori suomen oikealla puolella

Vasemmanpuoleinen ainakin on liiviläisten lippu. Oikeanpuoleinen varmaan myös joku kolmen vanhuksen kulttuuri :iiam:
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liivil%C3%A4iset

e: se oikeanpuoleinen on Karjalan tasavalta

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Apr 2, 2016

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Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Also, former head of the libertarian thinktank Libera is running for leader of Kokoomus, because apparently Kokoomus isn't right-wing enough yet.

I actually remember more about her parliamentary aide than her herself, the guy illegally bought Ted Cruz election crap and he called unions terrorists.

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