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JazzFlight posted:He boils down the movie to being worth it because him and Jason Mewes turned to each other after Batman's apocalyptic dream sequence and said "parademons" at the same time, as if just shoving an obscure DC element into the film redeems the whole thing. to be fair, if i saw this movie with jason mews i likely would have enjoy it too
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Apr 2, 2016 15:31
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Apr 2, 2016 15:32
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Apr 2, 2016 15:52
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they're an implicit 'heh, heh, heh' on the end of the title
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Apr 2, 2016 16:13
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Fucken LMAO 81% dropoff. http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/04/02/box-office-batman-v-superman-plunges-record-81-for-15-35m-friday/
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Apr 2, 2016 16:54
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Fucken LMAO lol
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Apr 2, 2016 17:07
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*revisits all the thinkpieces about Michael Bay and the end of the era of film criticism* *sends a case of champagne to RedLetterMedia and RottenTomatoes*
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Apr 2, 2016 17:14
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gently caress me The View women look more and more like Yoda every day.
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Apr 2, 2016 17:27
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Will MoS/BvS/[possible JL movie if it's even made I guess?] hold the same weight of failure as the Star Wars Prequels in the minds of people?
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Fucken LMAO there is a god. Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Will MoS/BvS/[possible JL movie if it's even made I guess?] hold the same weight of failure as the Star Wars Prequels in the minds of people? the problem is there were three good star wars movies before the prequels. the only good dc movies were the nolan ones. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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Apr 2, 2016 17:47
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Groovelord Neato posted:the problem is there were three good star wars movies before the prequels. the only good dc movies were the nolan ones. triggered af by all this shade being thrown on the Donner Superman flicks.
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i don't think those were offish dc flicks were they? superman 2 is a top 5 superhero movie.
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Otisburg posted:triggered af by all this shade being thrown on the Donner Superman flicks. Not only are the Donner films good as hell, but the completely awful Canon films are still delightfully cheesy and I defy anyone to have a bad time watching them. Also, DC / WB has the BEST animated film library in the world. The animated Batman and Superman movies are loving fantastic. I guarantee you if you took the animation staff and let them write/produce the live action film with a director that's not a Randroid this movie would have pulled at least a 95% RT score. Unfortunately WB sees this: Batman/Returns: A director who truly loves what he's doing working with an amazing cast to produce a product of love with a DARK tone Batman Forever/and Robin: studio hack making by the numbers cheap garbage with a light tone Green Lantern: studio hack making by the numbers cheap garbage with a light tone Dark Knight trilogy: A director who truly loves what he's doing working with an amazing cast to produce a product of love with a DARK tone So when it came time to make Superman / BvS / Justice League, WB decided "what we need to do is hire a studio hack that will make by the numbers cheap garbage with a DARK tone" because they missed the point by a trillion miles.
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Otisburg posted:triggered af by all this shade being thrown on the Donner Superman flicks. I think everyone just knows they're good as a given.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Fucken LMAO A GLISTENING HODOR posted:*revisits all the thinkpieces about Michael Bay and the end of the era of film criticism* I want to bet that it was social media and "word of mouth" that contributed more than film critics. If people listened to professional film critics, BvS would have had this bomb on the first weekend. It had to take some time to get the word out, although the podcasters and YouTubers probably had a hand in that. The thing is that there's nothing out there for it to compete with it until probably April 15. Like seriously, everything major has been out for about a month or more. I think Hardcore Henry might divert some dollars from BvS, since it's got a unique gimmick and it's looks like it's a hard R, but I doubt it'll unseat it from number one. BvS bleeding money in a period where it has no direct competition is going to be painful to WB execs.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Not only are the Donner films good as hell, but the completely awful Canon films are still delightfully cheesy and I defy anyone to have a bad time watching them. Marvel has that safe "file off all the harsh edges to make everyone happy" approach which is great for fun comic book superheroes. Unfortunately for Warner Bros, this time they rolled the dice and it came up snake eyes. Hell, half of the time as I was watching the movie, it felt like M. Night Shyamalan directed it. JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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Apr 2, 2016 18:28
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Fucken LMAO what i never got was that there was like 100 million in pre-sales. people were not just going to ditch that because of reviews. once they are gone and with horrible word of mouth, it took a huge hit. and also just by name recognition also.
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Apr 2, 2016 18:32
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JazzFlight posted:I dunno if I'd call Zack Synder a studio hack. He's pretty poo poo, but he has a very distinct style of his own that definitely doesn't feel like a safe middle of the road director that a studio might usually go with. I think that was DC's mistake, handing it off to someone with an auteur complex. But at the same time I'd like to know what WB/DC execs were telling Snyder before MoS and then before/during BvS. Did WB just put their hands up and say 'do whatever', or what ways did they actively contribute to this trainwreck? In a sense this isn't like the SW Prequels because there Lucas pretty much had total authority to do what he pleased. Here apparently the writers and Snyder managed to convince rooms full of powerful executives that making a Superman movie that was completely inaccessible to children was a great idea.
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I just saw this all the way through and it was pretty bad and such a missed opportunity. Holy gently caress, it was just a disjointed mess. Lex Luthor was an annoying oval office, Wonder Women was worthless, Superman was emo, etc. Agreed with everyone else though that Ben Affleck was the best part. Also, the "dream sequences"? Talk about random.... The doomsday fight was the most insufferably fake looking piece of CGI bullshit in a major movie since the The Hobbit.
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Apr 2, 2016 18:51
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The only person I know IRL that liked it is this guy. He wore a Superman shirt to the theater and even though we've broken him down and he knows that 99.99% of this movie is steaming hot liquid dog poo poo, it's still such a great movie because of the awful YouTube clips of Cyborg and Aquaman and a reference to Darkseid. Honestly, your need to make him not enjoy the movie he enjoyed is probably more unhealthy than his love of Aquaman.
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Apr 2, 2016 18:54
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:But at the same time I'd like to know what WB/DC execs were telling Snyder before MoS and then before/during BvS. Did WB just put their hands up and say 'do whatever', or what ways did they actively contribute to this trainwreck? In a sense this isn't like the SW Prequels because there Lucas pretty much had total authority to do what he pleased. Here apparently the writers and Snyder managed to convince rooms full of powerful executives that making a Superman movie that was completely inaccessible to children was a great idea. well i mean it was a smashing success opening weekend The Dork Knight Rises did 160mil opening weekend, age of ultron did 190 and BvS did 166. Its right on par with the other super production superhero movies It remains to be seen if it keeps rolling in the dough the next few weeks but it's been doing well so far Kids arent the main demo for superhero movies nowadays btw, it's 20 somethings
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BvS just suffered an 81% drop, lol. It's dad.
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Zzulu posted:well i mean it was a smashing success opening weekend Making it accessible for kids and targeting it towards kids are, like, different things.
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Isn't 81% the single biggest drop off for a superhero movie ever? EDIT: Derp, its the first line. Didnt want to bother with disabling adblock to actually read the article
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I saw it last night and it sucked dick but I have this semi-serious thing to say: this definitely can't be laid at the feet of Zach Snyder when it's pretty obvious that the problem is the loving writers above all
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I don't even want to TALK about this movie. I mean, I WILL, but I spoke to 3 different people yesterday after seeing it and they'd asked what I'd been up to that day and at no point did I even mention, "By the way, just saw Dawn of Justice...." Even Fantastic Four last year I could talk about and say good/bad things about, issues I had with the movie, etc. It's got good 'scenes', but as a whole they don't work out well together. We're all sort of holding out hope that the R-rated extended cut will fix things, but my guess is that the biggest difference will just be a bit more blood and Wonder Woman actually punched in the face or something a few times. On a hype/budget/interest/etc. scale, this is one of the most disappointing comic book movies I've seen in recent years. I'm trying to think of anything I've seen along these lines since 2000 that has been as non-engaging this. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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MiracleWhale posted:I saw it last night and it sucked dick but I have this semi-serious thing to say: Interesting idea but no sorry its Zack Snyder first and foremost. David Goyer was also the writer for Nolan but Nolan was smart enough to toss his script in the trash.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Interesting idea but no sorry its Zack Snyder first and foremost. you know these garbage movies are made by committee and it's that special committee kind of terrible that oozes from every pore of this movie
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it takes a village to make a complete disaster of a superhero movie
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MiracleWhale posted:it takes a village to make a complete disaster of a superhero movie There was an interesting article comparing how Marvel and DC plan their franchises and tone and it basically shows why DC is doomed. While the whole Edgar Wright thing sucked, Kevin Feige runs a tight ship and makes sure everything stays "on vision" DC's boardroom is basically just throwing things together to get movies out there without asking if they will fit or be good.
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Going to see it tonight because I haven't seen my buddy in a while and it seems like a good excuse to smoke some weed and laugh at a movie.
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So, during the Turkish Airlines commercial, Bruce Wayne is a seething, simmering jar of angry piss ready to explode and kill Superman during the entire thing? Sitting on a plane next to him must be really uncomfortable during that flight. I mean, Lex will just take poo poo off his plate and put it in your mouth, maybe even absent-mindedly touch himself during the in-flight movie because he thinks he's at home. Bruce might have nightmares where he'll wake up and react violently.
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JediTalentAgent posted:We're all sort of holding out hope that the R-rated extended cut will fix things, but my guess is that the biggest difference will just be a bit more blood and Wonder Woman actually punched in the face or something a few times. I have so much morbid curiosity about what's going to be in the R version. Isn't it an extra 30 minutes long? I mean there's basically no chance that 30 minutes will flesh out the story or give Superman some sort of purpose- if they had scenes like that they would have been in the actual movie. So what will it be? Superman banging Lois Lane? More bizarre references to future movies only huge DC fans will get?
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Apr 2, 2016 19:42
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I wanna see Amy Adams take her clothes off
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Apr 2, 2016 19:45
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MiracleWhale posted:I wanna see Amy Adams take her clothes off The bathtub scene was as close to nudity as you could get without doing it.
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FizFashizzle posted:The bathtub scene was as close to nudity as you could get without doing it. Do they take a bath fully clothed
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Clark does, dirty boots and all, but Lois had some murky, slimey, soapy water in there to cover her dirty pillows.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Honestly, your need to make him not enjoy the movie he enjoyed is probably more unhealthy than his love of Aquaman. Do you not talk to friends about movies? Homeboy fucken LOVED poo poo like the Doomsday fight and we're all like "really?" because it was bad and dumb and he realized he was just nerding out and an awful cgi zombie-Zod is actually a terrible way to present something you wanted to see on film.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Clark does, dirty boots and all, but Lois had some murky, slimey, soapy water in there to cover her dirty pillows. The biggest crime of this movie imo
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