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An idea. Have the manufacturers come in with IndyCar and reach an agreement that the car should be divided into a lot of "aero zones" that can be fiddled with, like the current aero boxes. But instead of giving each manufacturer free reign to do whatever they want in that box, you have some sort of auction or draft (heh) pick system to determine which boxes of the car a manufacturer is allowed to develop that season. You can "spend big" on a major aero component and sacrifice the rest of the car, or know that you can make up gains by picking and choosing a lot of small components that may add up to a big gain. This would make the cars look different, because the manufacturers are being forced to alter different areas of the car. No clue how this would work in practice, or if the common safety cell would make it impossible to implement. But it is a thought.
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VikingSkull posted:physics dictate how a car looks regardless of what boxes you're allowed to mess with that's fine, i'm not blaming the manufacturers for reaching similar solutions. but the point of the aerokits, in part, was to make the cars look different. and it doesn't do that. you even have chevy teams saying we're just paying money to have less competitive racing. so they either gotta say, "dallara provides the monocoque, you do everything else," or scrap it entirely, because it really provides no value in its current form.
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WindyMan posted:An idea. That's basically the token system.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I think it may be time to retire the aerokits in the near future. Riley and Scott doesnt exist. That company broke up. Riley still exists under a new company. Also they didnt do the Chevy aerokit. That was Pratt and Miller, who also don't actually manufacturer the kit, they just designed it. Also getting rid of aerokits isnt going to make the crashes any less scary at ovals. They are hauling rear end, the crashes are gonna be bad. If they want to slow them down to help that, they can do that with or without the aerokit. The manufacturers, including and especially Honda, wanted aero competition back. I don't really feel sorry for them if they are behind, this is what they wanted.
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Keep the kits please. Honda is behind because they hosed their initial design and it's not like Chevrolet stood still.
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Cygni posted:The manufacturers, including and especially Honda, wanted aero competition back. I don't really feel sorry for them if they are behind, this is what they wanted. This IOwnCalculus posted:Bentai and KingShibby are not, in fact, axe murderers. And this The race tonight will boil down to tire degradation and pit stop strategies. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a late-race caution where those that take tires at the end will have a significant advantage at the end like RHR had in 2014 at Iowa. Considering buying a ticket for the Turn 3 hill area since IndyCar in their infinite wisdom denied me a photo vest but I didn't bring a chair with me  EDIT: They're not selling tickets to the T3 hillside area 
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http://i.imgur.com/mf65VWa.jpg Pretty great vantage point from the Bobby Allison suite.
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No idea, but Zach Veach in the #5 is on a goddamn mission.
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CactusWeasle posted:What the gently caress was the pace car doing Kind of a Scott Goodyear moment there
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#5 did well to drag his car to an 8th place finish from starting in last. Burned the tires and had nothing left at the end.
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If you're looking for something else to kill time before the race, Formula E from Long Beach is starting shortly on FS1. I'm going to hang out in #ics to chat.
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Derek Daly swung by the suites and spent a good chunk of time talking about old races and possible team strategy tonight.
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K&N East is the lead-in to ICS on NBCSN now if you're bored. Racin'!
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Alright everybody. Come pile in IRC. #ics@synirc
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Minto Took posted:Alright everybody. Come pile in IRC. #ics@synirc
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The crowd here is a lot bigger than I expected
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It's filling in nicely
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Reminds me of my first outlaws race where the track was complete poo poo and no one could pass each other, even the leader passing lapped cars. Seems like once again we have shown, downforce is Satan to racing.
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Bentai mentioned it to me, but this race needs speedway wings
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This event is totally salvageable for the next running. I have faith.
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That sweeper truck 
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KingShibby posted:Bentai mentioned it to me, but this race needs speedway wings every oval needs speedway wings
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The CART short ovals they ran with speedway wings sucked rear end, fwiw.
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Apr 3, 2016 03:34
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please racing Jesus give me a Max Chilton win
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loving Carpenter.
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go3 posted:please racing Jesus give me a Max Chilton win
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Not loving picking Special Ed in Fantasy again. 
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CBJSprague24 posted:Not loving picking Special Ed in Fantasy again. go3 posted:lets take bets on how Special Ed fucks this up
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(Visible debris on the frontstretch with 8 to go.) (No caution.) (IndyCar calls a caution with 3 to go.) "This changes EVERYTHING!" -Rick Allen "Do you take tires here?" -Townsend Bell (IndyCar has no GWC, nobody at NBC knows this.) 
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That was a giant wet fart of an ending to a pretty dull race.
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Jimmie Johnson Scott Dixon Sebastian Vettel Three greatest drivers currently in a car in their respective series today. Incredible. How the hell do you beat a guy like Dixon?
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Aim for the kneecaps.
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Uh, that was a race I guess.
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Hope these first two races arent setting a precedent for the season. I am legitimately impressed with Chilton.
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Bentai posted:I assume people saw that sweeper on TV right? I'm guessing not? In case it didn't make the cameras, SeaBass nearly T-boned a sweeper cutting across pit exit.
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Hey let's talk about Rahal qualifying 19th and finishing 5th. He did this all last year too!
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At least it was short. I wonder if Dixon will have his lucky horseshoe removed from his rear end when he retires?
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