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Also, slightly different topic to my previous post:GaussianCopula posted:Well, I don't think Judaism has changed all that much, as it never was brutal and warmongering outside of "leave us alone or else JHWH is going to make you regret loving with us". They are also the only Abrahamic religions that does not have a mission to proselytize. It's okay when Moses did it, but it's bad when Muhammed did it? Remember when Elisha killed a bunch of children for calling him bald? No? 2 Kings 2:23-24
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Tesseraction posted:Better hope your daughter has never ridden a bike then, because Deuteronomy 22:21-22 says if there's no blood on the sheets she should be stoned to death by the village men. Totally in line with the laws at the time and I'm not aware of a single Jew that wants to stone people anymore. Maybe you can tell me about those? Tesseraction posted:As to your proselytising, perhaps, but it also says in Deuteronomy 13:1-11 that apostasy should be punished by stoning. It is seen as betraying your family and people, but again, please show me the Jews that still believe that people should be stoned. Moreover those laws are only about how Jews should act and behave and not about how Jews should force everyone else to behave. Brainiac Five posted:Psalm 137:8-9 Well, as I said, loving with the Jews is prohibited in the Bible and enslaving all Jews and destroying the first temple definitely falls under that definition.
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You're a child murderer but also historically and biblically wrong. If all the Jews had been enslaved, who exactly were the people who rebuilt Jerusalem under Ezra and Nehemiah? Not that your rotted brain will understand this question.
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GaussianCopula posted:Totally in line with the laws at the time and I'm not aware of a single Jew that wants to stone people anymore. Maybe you can tell me about those? Actually I was hoping you would ask me to show you examples of Jewish people advocating it, because by this you agree that the text of the book has little relevance to the practices observed in the modern world. So, we can take it that the text of the religious book is no guarantee of dangerous, illiberal or violent behaviour. To this extent, why is Islam singled out as a religion of repressive laws that cannot liberalise in the modern world?
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Brainiac Five posted:You're a child murderer but also historically and biblically wrong. If all the Jews had been enslaved, who exactly were the people who rebuilt Jerusalem under Ezra and Nehemiah? Not that your rotted brain will understand this question. I don't really get where your problem lies. The first sentence in the book spells it out that the Jews are ruled by Cyrus, king of Persia. quote:Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia [that is, the first year he ruled Babylon], in order to fulfill the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah [the prophet], the Lord stirred up (put in motion) the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying:
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GaussianCopula posted:I don't really get where your problem lies. The first sentence in the book spells it out that the Jews are ruled by Cyrus, king of Persia. Do you not understand what slavery is? I suppose that you are a slaver as well as a child-murderer.
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Are you guys seriously arguing over what 2000 or 1300 year old religious scripture is worse? Gaaahahahaha! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Let's add fuel to the fire! Air France faces staff mutiny in headscarf row
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Ligur posted:Are you guys seriously arguing over what 2000 or 1300 year old religious scripture is worse? Religion in TYOOL 2016: best taken in homeopathic amounts.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Let's add fuel to the fire! I'd sue the gently caress out of my employer.
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Let's add fuel to the fire! I agree with a French union... I feel so dirty.... must wash...
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blowfish posted:I'd sue the gently caress out of my employer. Why sue when you can, you know, ~ STRIKE ~
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Why sue when you can, you know, Why not both? 
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Let's add fuel to the fire! "Those that don’t want to [adhere to the dress code] must be able to say they don’t want to work on those flights.” - union spokesperson Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.
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Gotta love the French when it comes to secularism, it seems like that's their one strong suitquote:When the interviewer suggested certain women made the decision of their own free will to cover themselves, Rossignol replied: “Of course, they are women who make the choice … there were also … American negroes who were in favour of slavery.”
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GaussianCopula posted:Gotta love the French when it comes to secularism, it seems like that's their one strong suit Why do Europeans spend so much time on slavery in the US? Wasn't the slave trade in the Caribbean and Brazil much more brutal in terms of life expectancy? Shouldn't she be referencing Haiti instead?
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hypnorotic posted:Why do Europeans spend so much time on slavery in the US? Wasn't the slave trade in the Caribbean and Brazil much more brutal in terms of life expectancy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
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hypnorotic posted:Why do Europeans spend so much time on slavery in the US? Wasn't the slave trade in the Caribbean and Brazil much more brutal in terms of life expectancy? Shouldn't she be referencing Haiti instead? Haiti and Brazil are not cultural superpowers flooding every part of the planet with their history and pop culture.
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is there any such imposition for flights going to Saudi Arabia or any of the other cover-up nations?
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GaussianCopula posted:Gotta love the French when it comes to secularism, it seems like that's their one strong suit Yeah I sort of agree with her point here.
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I agree, women covering their hair is an affront to feminism. Or did you not read the article and see she was referring to abayas and hijab generally?
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waitwhatno posted:Haiti and Brazil are not cultural superpowers flooding every part of the planet with their history and pop culture. They are, however, systems imposed by Europeans that were abolished after independence.
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computer parts posted:They are, however, systems imposed by Europeans that were abolished after independence.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Doesn't change the fact that US cultural dominance is so powerful that it assimilates people outside its border, to the point that US history is as natural a reference point as their own, if not more. Or it could just mean Europeans don't want to point out their own shameful poo poo, like the  types here.
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computer parts posted:They are, however, systems imposed by Europeans that were abolished after independence. You're kind of making a completely bullshit connection between their independence and the Abolition of slavery, except for Haiti of course. Like seriously, the Brazilians were super attached to slavery to the bitter end. computer parts posted:Or it could just mean Europeans don't want to point out their own shameful poo poo, like the Your are singularly obsessed with whinging about Europe aren't you?
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Does anyone know what is in the association treaty with Ukraine? Us dutchies are having a referendum on it but the arguments are all over the place and super vague..
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Brainiac Five posted:Or did you not read the article and see she was referring to abayas and hijab generally? I'm being lazy.
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khwarezm posted:Your are singularly obsessed with whinging about Europe aren't you? Well yeah, it is the Europe thread.
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computer parts posted:Well yeah, it is the Europe thread. We could be in Heavy Petting and you'd find the time to go 'Heh, Europeans  ' every two posts.(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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computer parts posted:Or it could just mean Europeans don't want to point out their own shameful poo poo, like the A modern Brit is not that much more related to the 18th century British Empire than a modern American. Both are remote descendants of it. You don't just get to distance yourself from your European roots and all the horrible poo poo that our ancestors did. Stand by you stupid, inbred European family branch. 
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khwarezm posted:'Heh, Yurpeans ftfy
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waitwhatno posted:A modern Brit is not that much more related to the 18th century British Empire than a modern American. Both are remote descendants of it. Ok, but the Mexican part of my family might not like that.
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computer parts posted:Or it could just mean Europeans don't want to point out their own shameful poo poo, like the
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computer parts posted:Ok, but the Mexican part of my family might not like that. Spaniards are Europeans too.
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computer parts posted:Ok, but the Mexican part of my family might not like that. They better be full blooded native Americans who can't speak any Spanish otherwise you need to answer for the Caste war of Yucatan. Unless they're Nahuatl because then people can go 'What about the Aztec empire?'
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GaussianCopula posted:Spaniards are Europeans too. They're Mestizo. A Buttery Pastry posted:It's actually because we dislike cultural imperialists like you denying the way your cultural dominance strips other cultures of their history. A European calling someone else a cultural imperialist is ironic.
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In case you are not aware, tomorrow the first ~200-250 illegal migrants will be shipped from Greece to Turkey. Given that these illegals have proclaimed that they will rather drown than being shipped back to Turkey, we can expect some pretty nasty pictures. Let's just hope the Greeks don't muck this up.computer parts posted:They're Mestizo. So part European.
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It's cute to see people talk about Haiti and Brazil when France and the UK still controls several islands in the West Indies populated by the descendants of African slaves.
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computer parts posted:A European calling someone else a cultural imperialist is ironic.
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