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DarklyDreaming posted:Is 16,000 even close to what LambdaConf would need to recoup the loss from their sponsors leaving in droves? Status451 are now listed as a sponsor. As usually happens, when you invite a neoreactionary and declare you'll keep them for freedom of speech: 1. Everyone who isn't a reactionary leaves. 2. All the reactionaries flock to you. I mean holy poo poo, look at the comments on the blog post. Congratulations from reactionaries on not giving in to the SJW menace. Even Eric Raymond shows up. All of this is trivially predictable to anyone who's never encountered reactionaries before. Evidently the LambdaConf people haven't.
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divabot posted:All of this is trivially predictable to anyone who's never encountered reactionaries before. Evidently the LambdaConf people haven't. Ever, you mean. And yeah, the principal organizer's most recent post on the subject is so perfect it belongs in a textbook. I keep forgetting there are certain people for whom it seems completely obvious that judging everything and everyone by abstract principles alone is the best, and any time you do that case-by-case you are making a grave error, because, you see, other people might have made a different decision! He keeps on talking about trying to ~make a policy~...apparentlu he didn't even tell the attendants he polled who the person was, but some just figured it out. E: You're organizing a conference on functional programming. One possible speaker designed an outsider-art distributed computational system with a few odd embedded languages, but thinks society was on the whole better when women, unlanded men, and people of certain ethnicities weren't expected to politically self-determine. The other is David Nolen. HOLY poo poo PAGING KING SOLOMON ONLY DIVINE WISDOM CAN RESOLVE THIS ONE Doc Hawkins has a new favorite as of 20:29 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/joelgrus/status/715694032953876480 Well this libertarian pointed it out so I guess I was mistaken for bringing it up. EDIT: Also, none of these blowhards can prove that SJWs or whatever harassed any sponsors into quitting. But it's apparently clear that Moldbug was LambdConf was mobbed by people who wanted Moldbug "crushed" https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/716289796822417408 Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 21:37 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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It wouldn't take much to crush that stringbean, really. The weight of his unwashed metal hair could well snap his neck on a windy day. I do not mind bullying him. If he were bullied harder in high school he wouldn't be a problem now.
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Pope Guilty posted:The robocop menace? SA word filter on ess jay double-yew.
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Jack Gladney posted:It wouldn't take much to crush that stringbean, really. The weight of his unwashed metal hair could well snap his neck on a windy day. Being mean to the neoreactionaries on the internet is enough to count as crushing. And it's the leftists who're afraid of speech.
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I love how this is hailed as a victory, as if the Internet marxists (oh sweetie, they don't even know you exist) couldn't do the same thing in the same amount of time. "I got a bunch of idiots to pledge $16000 the revolution begins tomorrow!" Kind of want in on that revenue stream though, all you've gotta do is unironically love skulls/fedoras and hate people who aren't you.
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divabot posted:SA word filter on ess jay double-yew. Beautiful.
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^^quote:If I wanted to run an experiment to test how susceptible to scams the LW community actually was, this is exactly how I would do it. quote:Gotta give props to them for steelmanning their marks. Leswrong cant be the most gullible user base. quote:Let's not break our arms patting ourselves on the back, at least not until the data's in. At the moment we could be more, less, or equally susceptible to scamming than our demographics generally are. Sit down boys; I got some bad news for you all.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I want to thank this man and his dozens of like-minded friends or getting furious about stuff so many people think is normal and good and calling it Marxism: I think it's going to be good for the movement. good-bad-wolf-actually-the-same-you-loving-idiot.jpg
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Peztopiary posted:I love how this is hailed as a victory, as if the Internet marxists (oh sweetie, they don't even know you exist) couldn't do the same thing in the same amount of time. "I got a bunch of idiots to pledge $16000 the revolution begins tomorrow!" Kind of want in on that revenue stream though, all you've gotta do is unironically love skulls/fedoras and hate people who aren't you. Yeah it's not like a dirty
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Peztopiary posted:I love how this is hailed as a victory, as if the Internet marxists (oh sweetie, they don't even know you exist) couldn't do the same thing in the same amount of time. "I got a bunch of idiots to pledge $16000 the revolution begins tomorrow!" Kind of want in on that revenue stream though, all you've gotta do is unironically love skulls/fedoras and hate people who aren't you. Hell this month a bunch of people Clarkhat would call "Internet Marxists" (Who are probably not actually Marxists) raised $75,000 in less than a week as a response to their favorite TV character getting killed off* If you want an indicator of who is winning, that's it right there  *I am aware that is a massive oversimplification of what happened. I don't think I'll ever see someone shoot themselves in the foot harder than the executive producer of The 100 DarklyDreaming has a new favorite as of 01:05 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:Ever, you mean. And yeah, the principal organizer's most recent post on the subject is so perfect it belongs in a textbook
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Cingulate posted:Having read all of this guy's words on the subject, I'm starting to like the man so much, it makes me want to learn LISP. 
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neonnoodle posted:Woah woah slow down there, let's not drag Lisp into this.
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Cingulate posted:Having read all of this guy's words on the subject, I'm starting to like the man so much, it makes me want to learn LISP.  Of course.I predict you'll take greater enjoyment from the experience of knowing Haskell instead. Luckily Lambdaconf's sole remaining "Diversity Sponsor," Haskell Programming from First Principles, is extremely good. Though my recommendations of it have become more muted of late, and I now have a better understanding of why most of my more functional co-workers expressed vague dislike of the author.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Ever, you mean. And yeah, the principal organizer's most recent post on the subject is so perfect it belongs in a textbook. my favorite part of this is "inviting someone to speak at your conference is EXACTLY THE SAME as if they walk in your door uninvited" quote:If someone shouldn’t speak at a conference because that would be “endorsing” the speaker’s views on topics they aren’t allowed to talk about, then they shouldn’t attend, because allowing someone to attend your conference is “endorsing” the attendee’s views.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Hell this month a bunch of people Clarkhat would call "Internet Marxists" (Who are probably not actually Marxists) raised $75,000 in less than a week as a response to their favorite TV character getting killed off* If you want an indicator of who is winning, that's it right there Wait, what the gently caress is this?
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Cingulate posted:Sorry, I don't get the joke? My reaction is only to your liking what the guy had to say. My recommendation of Haskell is genuine, though the community already has a reputation for ivory-tower obscurantism and arrogance.
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Doc Hawkins posted:My reaction is only to your liking what the guy had to say It must be terribly exhausting though. Doc Hawkins posted:though the community already has a reputation for ivory-tower obscurantism and arrogance.
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Patrick Spens posted:Wait, what the gently caress is this? So basically the guys behind The 100 told the fans it was cool, they were going to write lesbians who didn't end up getting brutally murdered/otherwise have a terrible fate at the end of show. This turned out to be a lie, that the people who'd assured the fans (like went into places where the fans gathered message boards/twitter/reddit/tumblr etc. and said "No it's cool, we get it guys") it absolutely wasn't going to happen knew to be a lie, etc. etc. etc. Dumb drama about a dumb tv show. *edit* The reason that it's dumb is the people who did have burnt a ton of goodwill and going forward they're going to be considered untrustworthy by fandom which is a thing that actually matters however much people may wish otherwise (because lots of fandom is crazy/dumb or crazy-dumb) Peztopiary has a new favorite as of 21:58 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Peztopiary posted:So basically the guys behind The 100 told the fans it was cool, they were going to write lesbians who didn't end up getting brutally murdered/otherwise have a terrible fate at the end of show. This turned out to be a lie, that the people who'd assured the fans (like went into places where the fans gathered message boards/twitter/reddit/tumblr etc. and said "No it's cool, we get it guys") it absolutely wasn't going to happen knew to be a lie, etc. etc. etc. Dumb drama about a dumb tv show. "I want to see people like me on television who don't exist to be murdered" is a pretty legitimate complaint.
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Curvature of Earth posted:"I want to see people like me on television who don't exist to be murdered" is a pretty legitimate complaint. Uhh... what?
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Uhh... what? The idea is that a lot of the time, minority characters (including/especially sexual minorities) are written into movies and TV in order to be killed later. Think about it like this: who does worse in a horror movie? Black guy, gay guy, lesbian woman, or lily-white fraternity bro type? This annoys and upsets people who belong to those groups because we're not in that much media to start with. I've got no opinions on this particular case, but in general it's a mildly upsetting trend. It happens a lot to lesbians specifically going back a decade or more. This ties in to the dark enlightenment because by asking content creators not to fictionally murder people who are part of the same social or sexual or gender minorities as us quite so often, we are members of the cathedral, mindkilled by Cthulhu and oppressing the free speech rights of somebody or other.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahdoingthing/status/716828082951168001 Royally peeved. Their style of argument is so reliant on subjective/indemonstrable/false information that if their opponent tries to nail down facts/definitions/axioms, "You're a butthurt idiot who is afraid of having your dogma scrutinized. Go away!", is a response that allows them to simultaneously disengage from an unwinnable debate while accusing their opponent of being defeated by their superior rhetoric. ... So then, the talent agent sits there speechless for a few seconds. Finally, he takes out a handkerchief to wipe the diarrhea from his glasses and says, "That sounds like one hell of an act. What do you call it?" "The Reactionaries!"
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SolTerrasa posted:The idea is that a lot of the time, minority characters (including/especially sexual minorities) are written into movies and TV in order to be killed later. Think about it like this: who does worse in a horror movie? Black guy, gay guy, lesbian woman, or lily-white fraternity bro type? This annoys and upsets people who belong to those groups because we're not in that much media to start with. I've got no opinions on this particular case, but in general it's a mildly upsetting trend. It happens a lot to lesbians specifically going back a decade or more. No I mean what the hell does "I want to see people like me on television who don't exist to be murdered" mean, like I can't parse that
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:No I mean what the hell does "I want to see people like me on television who don't exist to be murdered" mean, like I can't parse that While I did not watch this particular televisual spectacle I am guessing that there were some lesbian characters who the writers suggested were totally getting treated right and were part of the cast and were not just going to be killbait or whatever, and then that was not true and they were murdered in some tragic manner. Now as with a lot of things, the issue is not so much that it is somehow wrong to have a murder victim or a crazy killer who is an LGBT person of some kind in an individual, specific case. But having the gays be dead or crazy is pretty much the typical trope, and it is wearying on a lot of LGBT folks to have their stories constantly implying that their role is to die or be insane.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://theviewfromhellyes.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/why-is-freedom-of-speech-important/ NRx still pissed at XKCD comic the world has long since forgotten. Speaking of butthurt the comic they're referencing works great with goatkcd:  https://goatkcd.com/1357/sfw :iamafag:
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Nessus posted:It is commonly felt by many LGBT folks that if LGBT people are on a TV program, they will either be tragically killed, turn out to be psycho killers themselves, some combination of A and B, or perhaps occasionally get to be the wacky gay friend. (Men only.) Alternately they will "get over their gayness." Yes I get the issue at hand the sentence is poorly constructed and I was going to make fun of it lightheartedly but now it is ruined and the joke is dead and I'm sorry.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yes I get the issue at hand the sentence is poorly constructed and I was going to make fun of it lightheartedly but now it is ruined and the joke is dead and I'm sorry.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahdoingthing/status/716828082951168001 Royally peeved.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Jerking off in a subway makes a better analogy for gross speech: it might technically harm no one, yet only creeps and idiots will defend it on that basis. "I may disagree with your taste in anime children tentacle rape but I will defend to death your right to fap publicly to it" - Voltaire probably
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yes I get the issue at hand the sentence is poorly constructed and I was going to make fun of it lightheartedly but now it is ruined and the joke is dead and I'm sorry. Reactionaries promised me SA was a Hugbox of the Cathedral, and instead I get criticized to my face. How dare you.
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