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RubberJohnny posted:So non-Eve guy reading up on this war and one thing I don't get is why can't the Imperium fight back? Our faction is about 14k strong at the momentum + whatever the Russians and White Legion can provide in support. But were going up against basically the entire game. The current strategy is just contest with real fleets what we can and do our best to wear the enemy down as the get deeper into our space. They can't defend what they take.
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There's also the added bonus of denying CCP a war. If we gave one we'd be doing them a favor and we don't owe them poo poo to put it lightly.
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RubberJohnny posted:So non-Eve guy reading up on this war and one thing I don't get is why can't the Imperium fight back? Of the total number of dudes in our coalition, only X% will show up for any given fight because that's just how nerds work - people are in different timezones, there's alts, there's people who don't feel like playing right now, there's people who only log in to update their skillqueue, there's super pilots, et cetera. The other guys' 3000 are their X%, amplified by the sheer hurf they're huffing. Once the hurf subsides and they're down to uncontested entosising in moderate-high adm systems, the boredom will set in and they'll lose the hurf modifier, at which point the numbers will settle out. Once we have our not-mach doctrines (seriously I don't know whose idea this was - they're good and all but did nobody think that our consistent losing of the isk war was going to spin pubbie funmeters into overdrive?), we'll likely be able to grind their regular fleets down to minimal advancement while the wise men of the mountain figure out how best to manipulate fizzlesov into more of a fun-crushing experience. All this time, we'll have people resubbing because the audacity of pubbies thinking they can set foot on our doorstep is absolutely unacceptable, meanwhile the Men's Rights Coalition will (as usual) succumb to infighting as everyone remembers how much they hate each other. So yeah, give it time.
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Tim Jong-un posted:Im afraid the horn was tooted already. nah
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Glory of Arioch posted:if you've got the skills and the patience for it, production is going to poo poo loving isk for months because of the war If I train a mining or industry skill I'll actually die. It's a very rare medical condition.
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ChickenWing posted:Of the total number of dudes in our coalition, only X% will show up for any given fight because that's just how nerds work - people are in different timezones, there's alts, there's people who don't feel like playing right now, there's people who only log in to update their skillqueue, there's super pilots, et cetera. lol no need to crucify anyone for the yacht fleet horny whiteboy lifestyle, that was a different time. Sure it was only two months ago but it was a different time.
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Zephyrine posted:If PL sets foot on the gameboard of logistics and jump freighters then I very well may. Paging Globby.
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RubberJohnny posted:Because there's apparently ~3,000 enemies, and your faction is ~17,000 strong, and I get the ~300 people you're fielding is because you don't want to fight, but why?
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Apr 4, 2016 15:35
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ChickenWing posted:stuff If you have time, an alt in some renter alliance even russian drone one to keep afk farming or plexing or whatever they do there. Market atm provides some great speculation deals, selling SP from alts. Or alts farming lvl5 in lowsec. Most straight forward ways of farming.
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I think mittens should consolidate everyone that hasn't abandoned goons into deklein+fade+pb. Or has that ship already sailed and we are permanently staging in Saranen?
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GaussianCopula posted:asymmetric demobilization lol
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Denis posted:Or alts farming lvl5 in lowsec. I would hardly call lvl5 carrier blitzers "straight forward". You need a bunch of faction mission pullers, as well as a carrier (possibly multiple carriers depending on where you do it), as well as the know-how to avoid people trying to gank your missioning carrier.
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Altran posted:I think mittens should consolidate everyone that hasn't abandoned goons into deklein+fade+pb. Or has that ship already sailed and we are permanently staging in Saranen? There is no strategic reason for anyone to stage in nullsec. It is added risk of your assets for basically no benefit. Saranen is a nice halfway point from everywhere we would want to fight right now, and it sounds like that is where we will be staging for the long-haul.
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Altran posted:I think mittens should consolidate everyone that hasn't abandoned goons into deklein+fade+pb. Or has that ship already sailed and we are permanently staging in Saranen?
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ChickenWing posted:abrupt change of topic: I leveraged the insane spending I did a few years ago with multiple accounts and/or aggressive ratting for PLEX dollars (when the whole multiple character training thing came into play) to go from several characters (I think 8 or 9) down to just 4 total with extractors and injectors. I'm not sitting on a trader, two 30m sp characters, and my main with 15-20b so in ISK and 81 injectors. Can't quite reach a titan, but I can get one of my characters super trained (hell, maybe even a fresh character) and a super. gently caress my life two years ago and hopefully it doesn't happen again. Edit: Fleet Aux Question - Has CCP said/hinted at whether there is going to be a new skill book that existing carrier pilots will get automatically? I always planned on one Dread and one Carrier on separate characters, but kind of curious because if we'll get a free cap skillbook out of the transfer it'd be worth training the skill on my Dread character. nessin fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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I find it hilarious that the Mittani sent out the call for mobilization and only something like 200 goons responded.
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Tim Jong-un posted:Im afraid the horn was tooted already. Not yet,  was doing that for us
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Needs to happen soon. If anything, a good retvet drive (there are no newbies) will help cut down on the sheer number of aggro-gator ads 
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Mittens has just gentle caressed the horn of Goondor and whisper sweet nothings but no  yet.
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I loving hate that dumb aggregator site and its stupid bait ads
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Stormgale posted:Tell me more about holes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMu42uUbWYg You live in this space called wormhole space, that normal people never travel to, and on occasion, you pop out and remind them that no matter where they hide, if you happen to get an exit near where they live, you can wreck their poo poo.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I find it hilarious that the Mittani sent out the call for mobilization and only something like 200 goons responded. the only call any bittervets like me got was that ccp email and a resub deal
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Arcsquad12 posted:I find it hilarious that the Mittani sent out the call for mobilization and only something like 200 goons responded. Except Mittani never sent out a call for mobilization? CCP did.
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Arcsquad are you done googling what I meant by delta
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Is it really back? Groon is being Phoenixed as we post! Our leadership kinda burned out after an efforty and abysmal AT last year. Active member corps left and joined Rote or Tishu, Groons mostly joined Hole Squad. I came back ~ a month ago, inherited the corp, and reset everyone to start over. Members are trickling back in, slowly but surely, and Syndicate is willing to fight our alliance ticker once again! The PVP JUGGERNOT is rising in the west.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Paging Globby.  it's a whole bunch of  , but if there is a rich benefactor involved anything is possible  Siets posted:I would hardly call lvl5 carrier blitzers "straight forward". You need a bunch of faction mission pullers, as well as a carrier (possibly multiple carriers depending on where you do it), as well as the know-how to avoid people trying to gank your missioning carrier. try one puller, one carrier (or supercarrier) per system (1-3 total) and you're set 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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This thread is moving really fast, but back on the subject of the 'world war bee' name, it only caught on because it was the first actually good piece of propaganda from the war. GSF used to be amazing at producing quality propaganda but hasn't really put much out yet, other than some cool (but not really ~effective~) battle footage.
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Bought some multi char trainer passes so that I can train my alt to be a miniluv pilot and not have to jc my main back and forth during war. God drat they are expensive.
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Why we ever moved away from the greatest corp name of all time SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO[LODRA] I'll never know. Not marketable enough either I guess.
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Empires of Eve book is available on amazon now for folks who didn't get in on the kickstarter. Can't get it shipped to canada though 
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Altran posted:I think mittens should consolidate everyone that hasn't abandoned goons into deklein+fade+pb. Or has that ship already sailed and we are permanently staging in Saranen? I've been screaming into the void about staging everyone in a lvl 5 mission hub in lowsec and keeping 1-3 regions for ratting and then whatever r64s we can hold on the fringes. gently caress entosis bullshit, gently caress stations. Plop down a max of 5 citadels with thè sole purpose of docking your ratting Ishtar/procurer Right now the biggest problem is we are the only game in town if you want to force fights by attacking someone that has set down roots in nullsec. We approach sov like it is the end goal in and of itself rather than a tool to facilitate wealth creation. Our regions are so spread out that we can't mutually defend one another. This has been a problem in the past because there were more players in the sov game, so if this was n3 attacking us, there would be Russians snatching up their r64s and making n3 renters Russian renters. We're in a post scarcity world now. A large amount of the pvp player base has old money, pve alts, or are simply white collar workers in their thirties who can simply buy plex to sell. Why deal with holding sov when your members no longer need to generate their fortune, when you can offset your few losses with r64 money and by only taking favorable engagements? Another thing is just how interconnected the older pvp groups are. Tishu has members who were in BL, PL, NC., HK etc. simply due to how long they've been around. They aren't really blues, but when they have a chance to gank their old corp member or team up with their old coro member to dunk on BNI, it's easier and funner to go for the sure victory. Any new group that tries to put down roots will simply make itself a target that can be attacked thus forcing fights, while not having the social ties outside of their own group to get help. PookBear fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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RubberJohnny posted:So non-Eve guy reading up on this war and one thing I don't get is why can't the Imperium fight back? We also have lost around 7000 dudes in the last month due to corps leaving.
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pugnax posted:This thread is moving really fast, but back on the subject of the 'world war bee' name, it only caught on because it was the first actually good piece of propaganda from the war. GSF used to be amazing at producing quality propaganda but hasn't really put much out yet, other than some cool (but not really ~effective~) battle footage. The RMT records stuff has been amazing, but I'll admit we've been a bit underwhelming on other fronts Distribution problems probably contribute to that. The enemy has reddit to widely display their propaganda to the public whereas we only really have our internal propaganda subforum which isn't even that well trafficked
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nessin posted:I leveraged the insane spending I did a few years ago with multiple accounts and/or aggressive ratting for PLEX dollars (when the whole multiple character training thing came into play) to go from several characters (I think 8 or 9) down to just 4 total with extractors and injectors. I'm not sitting on a trader, two 30m sp characters, and my main with 15-20b so in ISK and 81 injectors. Can't quite reach a titan, but I can get one of my characters super trained (hell, maybe even a fresh character) and a super. gently caress my life two years ago and hopefully it doesn't happen again. I don't think there is going to be any new skills you'll need other than the fighters for the combat carriers which they already added in a few weeks/months back.
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Like, I get we're getting help from russians, but hoping reddit goes full napolean/hitler and dies trying to take useless space seems like a dumb strategy. Then again, I sucked at EVE, so maybe its an amazing strategy and I just don't know enough about the cold space winters 
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