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Spiggy
Apr 26, 2008

Not a cop

Ojetor posted:

If you downgrade Vader to Adaptability for PS10 you can give the Inquisitor PTL instead of Juke, which is my current Imperial list. PTL is so drat good on the Adv. Prototype it's a no-brainer. At PS10, Vader still outskills pretty much everyone besides the occasional Poe.

I've been flying that list lately and having a good run with it. Then again, my local meta has a lot of ion turrets with low PS pilots that get shut down by the evade/focus combo.

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the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
Sounds good, now I just need a rebel list that can stand up for it so my gf doesn't ragequit.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
The TO from the store championship I went to finished uploading things to some website called List Juggler (mostly), so now I can actually see what lists people were using including folks I didn't get a chance to play against.

Some interesting things:
-Not just one but two people playing double Firespray lists.
-Only one person using the Ghost.
-A scattering of TAPs, but only one person using the Inquisitor (who placed overall 3rd). One person flew a 4x Baron of the Empire list with Guidance Chips and Proton Rockets
-Someone besides me actually brought Dutch Vander
-Literally no Omega Leaders
-Only the one list using JM5Ks
-Noa Pestana, who runs this blog here and who I gather I just squeezed out of the top 4, was running an interesting looking four ship Rebel list of two Red Squad Veteran T70s and a Green Squadron A-Wing, all with Crack Shot, and a Gold Squad stressbot build. I kind of wish I'd gotten to play against it to see how it did.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

the panacea posted:

Sounds good, now I just need a rebel list that can stand up for it so my gf doesn't ragequit.

Start with Jake Ferrell with Push the Limit, title, Veteran Instincts and Proton Rockets.

Alternately, you could give her the Imp list.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

the panacea posted:

Sounds good, now I just need a rebel list that can stand up for it so my gf doesn't ragequit.

Chopper in the Ghost with the autoblaster turret and accuracy correctors would be a good start. Mount a cheap Phantom and pair with Jake and the Imperials will have an uphill battle.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Looks like Miniature Market is doing a spring cleaning sale if anyone is interested.

They've got the TFA Core and Hound's Tooth going for $25 USD each, Falcons for $18, K-Wings for $12, and T70's for $9.

Goes til Sunday.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

I am new to X-Wing, but have some ships. I decided Scum sounded the most interesting since there's a lot of variety in the ship models. I am looking over the lists people have for a sense of what's good. I have a YV-666. Reading the card, Bossk sounds as though he is really mean to the opponent. Why do I not see many lists with him? Is he too expensive?

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

homullus posted:

I am new to X-Wing, but have some ships. I decided Scum sounded the most interesting since there's a lot of variety in the ship models. I am looking over the lists people have for a sense of what's good. I have a YV-666. Reading the card, Bossk sounds as though he is really mean to the opponent. Why do I not see many lists with him? Is he too expensive?

You have to get the crit through before you can change it to two hits.

Also the YV is not a great end game ship.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

Yeah, in a nutshell. The 666 is one of those big, sluggish ships that die to concentrated fire due to their low maneuverability and agility. Bossk's pilot ability is definitely good, it's just that to really capitalize on it you also want to load the ship up with upgrades and consume a huge chunk of the list's points. It's up there for one of the worst ships to have left alive at the endgame; Almost anything else has too easy of a time dropping in behind it and whittling it down, so a loaded 666 is kind of begging to get clowned on. I definitely like it more as a cheapo trandoshan slaver with some combination like Dengar and Gunner along with any of the other really good scum crew for a more reasonably priced piece that's still pretty intimidating and can afford to bring more support along in the form of other ships.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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Thanks for the lists! I'll make sure to post the results once we get a chance to play it. Can't wait!

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

AndyElusive posted:

Looks like Miniature Market is doing a spring cleaning sale if anyone is interested.

They've got the TFA Core and Hound's Tooth going for $25 USD each, Falcons for $18, K-Wings for $12, and T70's for $9.

Goes til Sunday.

Okay, this is now actually weird. I ordered a few ships from them last week; all the small ships were around 9.50, large ships were about 19. Two days ago, I looked again and all the small ships were 11 and large ships were 22.

Now a tiny selection are on sale again?

Gerdalti
May 24, 2003

SPOON!

homullus posted:

I am new to X-Wing, but have some ships. I decided Scum sounded the most interesting since there's a lot of variety in the ship models. I am looking over the lists people have for a sense of what's good. I have a YV-666. Reading the card, Bossk sounds as though he is really mean to the opponent. Why do I not see many lists with him? Is he too expensive?

I'm just playing the YV-666 for the first time today actually, and having a lot of fun and winning games with this:

quote:

Dengar (33)
Predator (3)
4-LOM (1)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Punishing One (12)

Bossk (35)
Calculation (1)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Mercenary Copilot (2)
Recon Specialist (3)
Boba Fett (1)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Some Numbers posted:

Now a tiny selection are on sale again?

:shrug: Yah that seems kinda wonky.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




homullus posted:

I am new to X-Wing, but have some ships. I decided Scum sounded the most interesting since there's a lot of variety in the ship models. I am looking over the lists people have for a sense of what's good. I have a YV-666. Reading the card, Bossk sounds as though he is really mean to the opponent. Why do I not see many lists with him? Is he too expensive?

The best way to use him is as crew on the YV-666, either the Slaver or I like on Latts Rassi. Paired with a gunner crew then he can put out consistent damage for not too many points.

You can add an weapons specialist as well as that works woth Bossk as well

Spiggy
Apr 26, 2008

Not a cop

Some Numbers posted:

Okay, this is now actually weird. I ordered a few ships from them last week; all the small ships were around 9.50, large ships were about 19. Two days ago, I looked again and all the small ships were 11 and large ships were 22.

Now a tiny selection are on sale again?

Asmodee decreased the vendors discount for online stores, so the overall prices rose a few bucks. The new sale prices will likely be about the same as the old normal prices.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Spiggy posted:

Asmodee decreased the vendors discount for online stores, so the overall prices rose a few bucks. The new sale prices will likely be about the same as the old normal prices.

Well, I'm glad I ordered when I did then.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:

Gerdalti posted:

I'm just playing the YV-666 for the first time today actually, and having a lot of fun and winning games with this:

The HLC seems a major nonbo with the rest of the make crits loadout.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Speaking of me not liking the T-70's racing strip, if I wanted to repaint it would I need to do anything in terms of primer? I'm not very good at painting, having only painted some TIE's for Armada, but this seems simple enough to do, as long as masking tape or something for the lines is fine to use on the model. Also are there any rules against using a repainted model?

I also wish I was good enough to get Poe's proper X wing.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Apr 5, 2016

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Eimi posted:

Speaking of me not liking the T-70's racing strip, if I wanted to repaint it would I need to do anything in terms of primer? I'm not very good at painting, having only painted some TIE's for Armada, but this seems simple enough to do, as long as masking tape or something for the lines is fine to use on the model. Also are there any rules against using a repainted model?

I also wish I was good enough to get Poe's proper X wing.

They don't need primer, and you can paint them as gaudy as you like, it's only modifications to the model itself that have guidelines, if I recall correctly.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Devlan Mud posted:

They don't need primer, and you can paint them as gaudy as you like, it's only modifications to the model itself that have guidelines, if I recall correctly.

The specific rule says "Players may paint their ship models. They cannot modify a ship model in any way that would create confusion about which ship the model represents." which might be a prohibition against giving your Academy Pilots a First Order paint job.

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Poopy Palpy posted:

The specific rule says "Players may paint their ship models. They cannot modify a ship model in any way that would create confusion about which ship the model represents." which might be a prohibition against giving your Academy Pilots a First Order paint job.

RIP players who put first order schemes on TIE/ln when the trailers came out.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The lovely thing is that the guideline used to be "paint however you want, don't modify the model," which means that the "confusion" guideline potentially outlawed a bunch of /fo->/ln and /ln->/fo repaints that were perfectly legal before

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Hey, If someone I'm playing confuses my TIE L/N as a TIE F/O because I painted it as an F/O then mission accomplished? I should only be using it as an F/O anyway.

But it's not like I can't just not use it in tournament games where someone is easily baffled by its color scheme, because it's not like I don't have 8 other goddamn TIES.

AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Apr 5, 2016

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Am I allowed to paint my Aggressors with Langford basilisks in order to eradicate biological scum?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Poopy Palpy posted:

The specific rule says "Players may paint their ship models. They cannot modify a ship model in any way that would create confusion about which ship the model represents." which might be a prohibition against giving your Academy Pilots a First Order paint job.

I specifically want to paint the blue stripes red on a T-70...which would basically be the T-65 color scheme, would that be a problem?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Eimi posted:

I specifically want to paint the blue stripes red on T-70s...which be basically the T-65 color scheme, would that be a problem?

I think you're in the clear. There are substantial enough differences in the overall design that you can easily tell the difference (different wing shape, hemispherical vs circular intakes, etc)

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Eimi posted:

I specifically want to paint the blue stripes red on T-70s...which be basically the T-65 color scheme, would that be a problem?

No, because the wings look really different.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

Some Numbers posted:

Okay, this is now actually weird. I ordered a few ships from them last week; all the small ships were around 9.50, large ships were about 19. Two days ago, I looked again and all the small ships were 11 and large ships were 22.

Now a tiny selection are on sale again?

Asmodee bought FFG and forced online resellers to raise their prices on April 1st.

Travic
May 27, 2007

Getting nowhere fast

AndyElusive posted:

Looks like Miniature Market is doing a spring cleaning sale if anyone is interested.

They've got the TFA Core and Hound's Tooth going for $25 USD each, Falcons for $18, K-Wings for $12, and T70's for $9.

Goes til Sunday.

I'm still really new at this game, but I've been interested in the K-Wing and the T-70 expansion for a while. Are they good?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
I apologize if this is hopelessly naive, but why does it matter what prices people sell their products at?

Travic posted:

I'm still really new at this game, but I've been interested in the K-Wing and the T-70 expansion for a while. Are they good?

The T-70 is really really good.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Travic posted:

I'm still really new at this game, but I've been interested in the K-Wing and the T-70 expansion for a while. Are they good?

Yes. T-70 is a good space plane and comes with a nice mod for both X-Wings.

K-Wing comes with Miranda, who is solid, and 2 copies of TLT, which is arguably the best turret in the game.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Red Ace(T-70) is really fun and cool if you're like me and into tanky things. Miranda(K-Wing) is in that same vein, she comes with an ability to either sacrifice a shield to throw another die, or throw one less die to regen a shield. And the K Wing has a natural turret and turret slot, so it's very Twin Linked Laser Turret friendly. I haven't used Ello Asty, the other T-70 ace, but he looks fun because you can just do the special turn the T-70 has constantly while unstressed.

Asmodee says they think that online distributors are undercutting brick and mortar stores, so they want them to sell closer to MSRP. No idea how true that is in a real sense, but just what I understand their argument for doing it is.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Apr 5, 2016

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!

Some Numbers posted:

I apologize if this is hopelessly naive, but why does it matter what prices people sell their products at?

It's really hard to sit down and play a game of X-Wing with your friends at an internet store.

Basically, online retailers can undercut local stores on price, which can and does drive people to purchase online. Which means your local store makes less money and goes out of business, etc.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Eimi posted:

Asmodee says they think that online distributors are undercutting brick and mortar stores, so they want them to sell closer to MSRP. No idea how true that is in a real sense, but just what I understand their argument for doing it is.

Well, that much is certainly true. My FLGS sells small ships for 14.99 and both Miniature Market and CSI were selling them for 9.50.

Though weirdly, that same FLGS has an online store and they sell small ships for 10.50 there.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

The Gate posted:

It's really hard to sit down and play a game of X-Wing with your friends at an internet store.

Basically, online retailers can undercut local stores on price, which can and does drive people to purchase online. Which means your local store makes less money and goes out of business, etc.

I'm suddenly very glad I live in Seattle and Card Kingdom will never be in danger of going out of business.

overdesigned
Apr 10, 2003

We are compassion...
Lipstick Apathy
It's the "I want a place to play" that makes me buy at least a portion of my ships at MSRP from local stores (that aren't lovely ones I mean). Not EVERYTHING, but at least some. It's nice to have a place to play games.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


It helps for me that Xwing ships are cheaper. I kind of agonize whether to buy Armada stuff from my FLGS since it runs you 20$ minimum, but I don't mind spending 15$ here and there. Now for something like the Raider or whatever that is different.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

jeeves posted:

Asmodee bought FFG and forced online resellers to raise their prices on April 1st.

Not that it's super important but I'm pretty sure Asmodee just sells the products to online retailers at a higher price. Online retailers could charge what they used to charge but would make smaller profits.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

overdesigned posted:

It's the "I want a place to play" that makes me buy at least a portion of my ships at MSRP from local stores (that aren't lovely ones I mean). Not EVERYTHING, but at least some. It's nice to have a place to play games.

Same. I mean, I don't look down on someone whose local game stores suck and who does all their shopping online, but if a store is good and run by good people I'll buy through them when I can.

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Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Eimi posted:

It helps for me that Xwing ships are cheaper. I kind of agonize whether to buy Armada stuff from my FLGS since it runs you 20$ minimum, but I don't mind spending 15$ here and there. Now for something like the Raider or whatever that is different.

Even for the mid-tier large ships, the difference between 18 and 30+tax is pretty big.

It doesn't help that my state has a 10% sales tax.

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