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Waffleman_ posted:Hagakure had to have passed the entrance exam somehow. It wasn't a sneaking mission. As I've said before, we can probably take it as a given that the point-scoring robots are defeatable by any reasonably competent martial artist. There's plenty of folks who've passed the exam and have non-combat (or non-damage-dealing) powers. Plus, invisibility is pretty powerful in combat. She could just walk up to a robot, remove a hatch, and start tugging wires out.
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Darth Walrus posted:As I've said before, we can probably take it as a given that the point-scoring robots are defeatable by any reasonably competent martial artist. There's plenty of folks who've passed the exam and have non-combat (or non-damage-dealing) powers. Plus, invisibility is pretty powerful in combat. She could just walk up to a robot, remove a hatch, and start tugging wires out. That's what I've been figuring she did. Since it's all recorded, they'd have been able to see when she took one out by finding all the robots that just start spontaneously coming apart.
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Apr 5, 2016 13:38
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What about those Rescue points? It's how Deku passed the exam.
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Apr 5, 2016 15:10
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Well, considering that he was the only one to pass on just Rescue points, we know that everyone else had to have taken out at least one of the machines.
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FH_Meta posted:Well, considering that he was the only one to pass on just Rescue points, we know that everyone else had to have taken out at least one of the machines. I believe they said he's the first one to do so in a while too. There had to be at least some robots who could be beaten with a good punch or something since Ojiro also passed and he just has a tail. Perhaps they all actually have a self destruct button you can mash if you get past their defenses.
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Tollymain posted:what if you just had the person showing up in the background of the comic doing things all the time but nobody ever comments on it or notices Mind = blown.
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Gyges posted:I believe they said he's the first one to do so in a while too. "Just" a tail? Have you seen how muscular that thing is?
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Apr 5, 2016 19:56
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Turns out Ojiro's Quirk isn't his tail - he's just a guy with a thick-rear end tail.
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Countblanc posted:Turns out Ojiro's Quirk isn't his tail - he's just a guy with a thick-rear end tail. I bet it's his eyes. His quirk is being drawn differently from everybody else. HellishWhiskers fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Clarste posted:There is also a Touhou character like this. Naturally, she's one of the most popular characters in the franchise. Imp from Worm also has a power like this.
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About the anime...did anyone else feel like DekuMom knew he didn't have a Quirk from the start? They emphasized her reaction to "When I get my Quirk, I want to be just like him!". She did that in the manga too, but it was more subtle.
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Vengarr posted:About the anime...did anyone else feel like DekuMom knew he didn't have a Quirk from the start? They emphasized her reaction to "When I get my Quirk, I want to be just like him!". She did that in the manga too, but it was more subtle. She probably knew that all the other kids had gotten theirs way earlier, and she herself had developed it earlier. It seems like it'd be common knowledge that kids always develop quirks by a certain age, and Deku was just too young to know that. So for her, going to the doctor was just confirmation of what she already suspected (and that's why she even bothered taking him in to get tested). Compare it to a mother worrying that her kid hasn't learned to read yet and then getting a diagnosis of some learning disability.
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Apr 6, 2016 02:11
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While enjoying my 3 day probation vacation I caught up on the manga. Holy poo poo. What a ride.
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Silver2195 posted:Imp from Worm also has a power like this. like most powers in worm, this power is used in terrifying ways
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Vengarr posted:About the anime...did anyone else feel like DekuMom knew he didn't have a Quirk from the start? They emphasized her reaction to "When I get my Quirk, I want to be just like him!". She did that in the manga too, but it was more subtle. Also she probably knew at least something about the heredity of powers. Assuming that her power has a hard weight limit and dad's was like putting alcohol in your mouth a blowing on a match (only better because there's no prep involved), then neither one is a high end power for a hero. And most of the combinations aren't that great. Being able to attract fires to yourself is nice, but if you have to do it by breathing in.... That's a bigger limitation than size is, honestly. Attraction breath is less good than just being straight up able to pull them in. And so forth.
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I don't think you usually get a combination power, I think Todoroki is explicitly special in that regard. Watching the first episode of the anime, they say that a child usually gets the power from one of their parents.
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We don't know the actual genetics of it (and for good reason), but I was pretty sure that the doctor said by age four a child has usually manifested one of the parent's quirks or a combination. I'm gonna go check and will edit this soon. EDIT: Yeah. The doc's words are that normally Deku would have manifested one of his parent's quirks or a combination of the two. I think that Shouto's uniqueness comes in that his father was going for a combination that was self-offsetting. FH_Meta fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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That's kind of strange, though, because clearly the first generation of quirk-havers would just have random quirks, since none of them would have parents who have quirks. It seems like quirks would effective "dilute" into a bunch of really bizarre poo poo that isn't useful after a few generations if people only inherited either one of or a combination of their parents' quirks.
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Ytlaya posted:a bunch of really bizarre poo poo that isn't useful isn't that kinda how they are though? I mean almost everyone has a quirk but not everybody is a superhero so most regular folks probably just have some dumb thing that either works like a semi-useful but mundane talent and/or just makes life more annoying
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Hopefully, MHA is like Tiger & Bunny where it's not generally concerned with the why or how of the superpowers, but more focused on the characters that have them.
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I thought it was interesting that the anime made it more explicit that the ice girl in the opening is probably related to Todoroki. Makes me wonder if the the chubby telekinetic is going to show up at some point.
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We saw a classmate in the first chapter his only power it appears was to pull his eyes out of their sockets.
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MonsterEnvy posted:We saw a classmate in the first chapter his only power it appears was to pull his eyes out of their sockets. I was reminded of the episode of Tiger & Bunny (going back to that again) that featured a bunch of people who kinda had useless powers like that, like one of them could sweat a whole lot.
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Flash Sweat is really good if you're up against a pyromancer, though.
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They haven't explained the hereditary passing on of quirks, but in Todoroki's case isn't he the youngest of his siblings? Implies to me that getting a quirk combo in a kid is less common than just one quirk passing down. I'm getting Pokemon breeding PTSD all of a sudden.
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Shinjobi posted:They haven't explained the hereditary passing on of quirks, but in Todoroki's case isn't he the youngest of his siblings? Implies to me that getting a quirk combo in a kid is less common than just one quirk passing down.
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Shinjobi posted:They haven't explained the hereditary passing on of quirks, but in Todoroki's case isn't he the youngest of his siblings? Implies to me that getting a quirk combo in a kid is less common than just one quirk passing down. Todoroki has like 6 brothers and sisters and think a few are younger than him though.
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Even if he was a huge dick about it, Endeavor's idea to get rid of the limit of his quirk in one of his children was very clever. Up until recently, All Might could just keep going and going which is probably one of the major advantages he had over Endeavor. You know, aside from not being a huge dick but whatever. Todoroki has no limit to his quirk use, provided he uses both aspects. It doesn't even seem to tire him out.
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1: it's kinda a major plot point how all might can no longer keep going. 2: Jesus christ todoroki is a shiny.
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SirKibbles posted:Todoroki has like 6 brothers and sisters and think a few are younger than him though. He looks to be the youngest actually.
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Endeavor's eugenics program predates All Might's disability. He wasn't trying to beat the current, frequently useless All Might; Endeavor was trying to beat All Might in his prime. It isn't just Endeavor- just about everyone seems to have a limit on how long they can use their quirk, but All Might did not. .
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Serious Frolicking posted:Endeavor's eugenics program predates All Might's disability. He wasn't trying to beat the current, frequently useless All Might; Endeavor was trying to beat All Might in his prime. It isn't just Endeavor- just about everyone seems to have a limit on how long they can use their quirk, but All Might did not. . I wonder if that's going to be a plot point in the future; All Might's limit on OfA is based on his injuries and now having passed it on to Midoriya, and every time Midoriya uses it his body gives out before his ability to keep OfA active. Maybe that's an inherent quality to OfA, or perhaps it's something to do with the fact that it isn't their natural quirk? Obviously the topic of the hows and whys of quirks is something nobody really wants to come up in the story but OfA is such a special case I imagine if it has some unique limitless nature to it there will be a chapter about it at some point.
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Oh, I thought of another person whose quirk is endless: Mt. Lady, because that rear end never stops.
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Everything Burrito posted:isn't that kinda how they are though? I mean almost everyone has a quirk but not everybody is a superhero so most regular folks probably just have some dumb thing that either works like a semi-useful but mundane talent and/or just makes life more annoying No, I mean in the sense that they would all blend together into something incomprehensible. As the generations increase, you'd end up with people with quirks that are the combination of like 10 other quirks, which in most cases probably wouldn't even conceptually make sense. Like, it's easy enough to imagine a combination of, say, Midoriya's parents' quirks, but what if you try to them combine "ability to attract small amounts of fire" or whatever with some other hybrid quirk? And then combined two of those doubly-hybridized quirks? And so on? Personally I prefer the idea that quirks are just totally random, with maybe a somewhat higher tendency for the child to have an ability related to one or both of his parents' abilities. So Todoroki might have a larger chance than the average person to have a quirk related to fire or ice, but could also just end up with anything random.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Oh, I thought of another person whose quirk is endless: Mt. Lady, because that rear end never stops. 
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Ytlaya posted:No, I mean in the sense that they would all blend together into something incomprehensible. As the generations increase, you'd end up with people with quirks that are the combination of like 10 other quirks, which in most cases probably wouldn't even conceptually make sense. Like, it's easy enough to imagine a combination of, say, Midoriya's parents' quirks, but what if you try to them combine "ability to attract small amounts of fire" or whatever with some other hybrid quirk? And then combined two of those doubly-hybridized quirks? And so on? You might prefer that idea but it isn't accurate.
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Quirks might've originally been random but since then it's become apparent they can get passed down genetically with the occasional mutation, dead end, or surprise twist. That said, I feel like this discussion is taking the premise of the comic to logical extremes it was never meant to entertain. Not saying there's a problem with talking about this kind of stuff, but this is very much an issue where suspension of disbelief takes priority over worrying about the state of a fictional world in two hundred years.
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Ytlaya posted:No, I mean in the sense that they would all blend together into something incomprehensible. As the generations increase, you'd end up with people with quirks that are the combination of like 10 other quirks, which in most cases probably wouldn't even conceptually make sense. Like, it's easy enough to imagine a combination of, say, Midoriya's parents' quirks, but what if you try to them combine "ability to attract small amounts of fire" or whatever with some other hybrid quirk? And then combined two of those doubly-hybridized quirks? And so on? They could also conceivably improve, though; what if, rather than "attract small amounts of fire", the quirks combined to become proper pyrokinesis? It's still the essence of both abilities, and there's no reason the quirks have to get worse necessarily; after all, Todoroki's quirk is superior to Endeavor's and his mother's. The quirks may get weirder, but that doesn't mean they're going to become meaningless or bizarre over time. For everyone, at least; obviously some people will wind up with lackluster quirks, or none at all, but that's how it is already.
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Actually that's why the aliens awakened humanity's quirks in the first place. So that over time, across the generations they would merge and unify into a single ultimate quirk.
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My God! It makes sense now! It's all a plot by aliens to breed the Kwisatz Haderach, and Endeavor is actually an alien in disguise! WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
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