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You know I kinda like this part of the plot working with Ivy against scarecrow. It makes some attempt at sense, if the cloudburst goes off it could damage the plants so Ivy has a reason to listen, and even if it is stupid as hell it's at least interestingly stupid. This is something you wouldn't predict.
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I know what happens, I've played this game and done all the non-dlc sidequests. I was trying not to spoil later points. Even with it getting stupider I still enjoy this aspect of the plot.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:They don't know, which is unbelievably ridiculous. What do they think he's going to Wayne Tower for? He's either Bruce Wayne or getting support from Bruce Wayne. "No loving way Wayne is Batman when he could pay someone else to be" But yeah, Wayne bankrolling Batman should now be out of the bag, unless Batman inc. happened in the Arkham games too in which case the point is moot.
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Just played the game recently, great to see it getting LPed (and with all the overpriced DLC to boot!). It looks like I’m in the minority here, but I love the story in this game*. Not what happens in the plot, which isn’t anything special, but the undertone of Batman starting to fall apart. It works because it asks “what kind of weirdo would spend millions of dollars to stalk the night in a rodent costume, looking for muggers to punch in the face?” and responds with “this weirdo.” Batman is clearly in terrible mental/emotional shape in AK. The Joker points it out, repeatedly, but so do Batman’s allies. You get the sense that it’s very much the end of the series—Batman is trying to do what good he can with what little time he has left, before he breaks completely from the emotional strain of being Batman. *Except Barbara getting fridged and Catwoman’s role being limited to damsel-in-distress. That’s some bullshit, and I’m not even going to try to justify it. fake edit: CuwiKhons posted:So that thug mentioned that all the villains pooled their money for Scarecrow and the Arkham Knight's army - that's what I'm talking about when I say this whole thing really feels like a last stand for the villains. They're putting everything they've got into this and if it fails? There's nothing left. All the villains feel desperate and angry, and I think they're scared. It's never really made clear exactly why Gotham's assorted criminals all decided that yep, this was the plan they were willing to lay down their money on and it was time to finally unite and end it all, but I've got a guess and I think it's because of Joker. This is another thing that helps the “end of the series” feel.
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BioEnchanted posted:You know I kinda like this part of the plot working with Ivy against scarecrow. It makes some attempt at sense, if the cloudburst goes off it could damage the plants so Ivy has a reason to listen, and even if it is stupid as hell it's at least interestingly stupid. This is something you wouldn't predict. Reminds me of working with Freeze in City and I'm guessing it will have a similar payoff. "Oh, thanks for helping me out Batman, now for my inevitable betrayal"
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It does have that sense of finality that you can only really do in these divergant adaptation series. Obivously, in the comics, Bruce Wayne can never have a proper ending, but in stuff like this, The Nolan films and the DCAU, you can, it feels like this version of Batman has grown and changed over the course of the Arkham series - something comic Batman can't do to that much of a degree.
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Man, Freeze's boss fight was so amazing, though. Indestructible from the front, keeps tracking your footsteps by their heat so you can't camp, and keeps adapting his tactics to stop yours so you need to pull out every trick in Batman's arsenal to stop him. That was good game design.
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Omobono posted:"No loving way Wayne is Batman when he could pay someone else to be" It wouldn't surprise me if the Arkham Knight just sent the milita to Wayne Tower without telling them why they were assaulting the building. "You have your orders. Go do them!" Dumb, but not out of character.
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Quiet Python posted:It wouldn't surprise me if the Arkham Knight just sent the milita to Wayne Tower without telling them why they were assaulting the building. "You have your orders. Go do them!" Dumb, but not out of character. I hope they go into that as part of the mirror between the Knight and Batman. They both tell their allies next to nothing, but Bruce's come to help him anyway because they're good people and the militia isn't. Especially if they make that the only reason Batman wins.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:They don't know, which is unbelievably ridiculous. What do they think he's going to Wayne Tower for? He's either Bruce Wayne or getting support from Bruce Wayne. Maybe Batman's getting tech support from Bruce Wayne.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:19
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During Grant Morrison's Batman Incorporated run, Bruce Wayne outed himself not as Batman directly, but Batman's financial supporter. The Tony Stark route (for years, Tony pretended he wasn't the same guy as Iron Man for legal reasons, even remote-controlling his suit to "rescue" him once)
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I liked Tony's tactic in the first Iron Man movie: Now a lot of you may have heard weird rumours relating to me and Iron Man, and I'm here to lay those rumours to rest. The truth is: I am Iron Man. 
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Apr 6, 2016 06:35
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I feel like Bruce admitting "Yeah, I'm bankrolling the illegal vigilante." would have some serious legal repercussions.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:37
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I think in some comic versions Bruce has publically come out and admitted he funds batman with his tools.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:40
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I feel like Bruce admitting "Yeah, I'm bankrolling the illegal vigilante." would have some serious legal repercussions. Yeah you'd think that but it never really did. Until a combination of Gotham getting attacked by the League of Assassins and DC wanting to clear the slate in the wake of their then-recent reboot led Bruce to shut down Batman Inc., leading everyone to ask once again where does Batman get those wonderful toys?... because comic folk are dumb.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:53
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I think if they did something different with Catwoman it should have been her as a buddy for the Two-Face stuff. There's bound to be a good reason for her to fight him, maybe she wants to rob them at a later date and is using two-face as a cover to case it whilst helping Batman out. It certainly couldn't be worse than the Riddler plot line they gave her.
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It'd be another callback to Arkham City, as well.
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Scruffy quick question. Is it okay to post some pictures of some Jokerized billboards that I've come across in game that we haven't seen in the videos? I've found a few that are pretty neat.
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IBlameRoadSuess posted:Scruffy quick question. Is it okay to post some pictures of some Jokerized billboards that I've come across in game that we haven't seen in the videos? I've found a few that are pretty neat. Go for it. I'm posting them when I remember to take pictures but they go by pretty quick at times.
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By the way, scruffy...have you told Robin the bad news yet?
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Discendo Vox posted:By the way, scruffy...have you told Robin the bad news yet? Like two videos from now, yeah.
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Alright, I got some shots of billboards from various points in the game and I don't think there's any spoilers in them, but just to be safe I'll put them behind a link. I also included two references I don't think Scruffy has brought attention to yet, one is the Black Canary Club on Miagani's main street, and the other is a poster for the Solomon Grundy movie starring Burt Westen. Some of the billboards I got were in odd angles since they change back if you look away for too long.
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The random thugs are the best characters.
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The title says it all, my short attention span attacks. This is pretty much taking out watch towers and checkpoints. Screwing Around, Mostly/PolsyI'll be doing another Season of Infamy sidequest next video.
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Listening to encouragement and "PROTECT HER" from Ivy, of all people, feels a bit weird, even if I really dig the general idea of the slightly less evil villains of the rogues gallery helping Bats out 
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Alexeythegreat posted:Listening to encouragement and "PROTECT HER" from Ivy, of all people, feels a bit weird, even if I really dig the general idea of the slightly less evil villains of the rogues gallery helping Bats out That said, when are game devs going to realize that having characters constantly nag us to do something we're already doing is incredibly irritating?
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Polaron posted:That said, when are game devs going to realize that having characters constantly nag us to do something we're already doing is incredibly irritating? Yes, it should definitely be a bit less frequent
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Another reference that was glossed over a few videos ago was a sign for Kord industries (Ted Kord being the second Blue Beetle aka the one who didn't really use the scarab).
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Alexeythegreat posted:Listening to encouragement and "PROTECT HER" from Ivy, of all people, feels a bit weird, even if I really dig the general idea of the slightly less evil villains of the rogues gallery helping Bats out Honestly, Batman does go to the rogues when he has to for their advice. Just because they're the "bad guys" doesn't mean they're not experts in their field. Scarecrow is a genius at biochemistry and psychology. How else could he custom make gasses the way he does? Ivy is a world class botanist and probably an organic chemist as well. Hell, given her split from Joker in the New 52, I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Harley for advice on how to stop him or protect people against a new formula of Joker gas. Of course, that all depends on writers realizing that aspect of Batman. He's the world's greatest detective, after all. Part of the PI game is nurturing contacts who can help you in your investigations. That might make for an interesting aspect of the Telltale Batman game. Maybe as Batman you cut a deal with a villain to get information and later have to juggle funds as Bruce Wayne to accommodate, even if that might mean missing out on a big deal in the corporation's best interests.
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You're assuming the Telltale game will have any meaningful decisions at all, which has not historically been the case.
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As a note, Batman goes to Two-Face for information during the tie-in Arkham City comics. Two-Face even helps him, since the good head comes up. I wish we got to see more of that kind of thing in these games.
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Mzbundifund posted:You're assuming the Telltale game will have any meaningful decisions at all, which has not historically been the case. That's basically all I ask from them
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I love how the Militia and Knight are all on about 'we totally get how to kill THE BAT!' but primarily consist of unarmed men who attempt to engage a legendary master of hand to hand combat in fisticuffs. 
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Night10194 posted:I love how the Militia and Knight are all on about 'we totally get how to kill THE BAT!' but primarily consist of unarmed men who attempt to engage a legendary master of hand to hand combat in fisticuffs. Knight spent all his money on tanks, what do you want? Penguin to just GIVE guns to his ally?
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A smarter man would've manned every tank so Batman couldn't use guns against them. His thanatophobia is his weakness!
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dscruffy1, you mentioned at the end of the video that you didn't realize the electrical gun operated that way on the charged enemies - that's actually the way I dealt with them through the whole game, I had no idea the grapple gun would remove their charge in addition to yanking them over to you. Anyway, fun to watch this even though I recently played through - you're way better at hand-to-hand combat in the Arkham games than I am, I tend to get overwhelmed with all the various enemies requiring their own specific counters and fighting moves and just get dogpiled.
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Discendo Vox posted:Part 23 Notes: It is, you can see the question mark-covered entrance zoom by right before Batman says it.
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