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Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

That Old Tree posted:

A "dark ally" playbook doesn't have to be 100% turncoat Renfield, either. There're plenty of places you can take it, like jealous rival, estranged progeny, or inscrutable servant of a past or future Overlord.

I was thinking that the playbook could be expanded out to cover stuff like that, or a Boromir-type as spectralent mentioned. It could also be used for a renegade General the Fellowship befriends instead of kills!

Golden Bee posted:

Probably want a corruption track system similar to Urban Shadows.

But it's important to remember Gollum wasn't part of the Fellowship; he only appeared once it had splintered, and only to Sam and Frodo if I remember correctly. (It'd be fun to see Legolas and Gollum have a two person mission tho.)

If you're not going to count any time after the Fellowship split as part of their collective adventure, then technically the Fellowship wasn't what defeated the Overlord and this game is already diverging from a straight adaption of LotR. Either that or even while they were divided by hundreds or thousands of miles the individuals that formed the Fellowship were still united in a way through their shared goal to destroy the Ring of Power.

Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Mar 29, 2016

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Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Nuns with Guns posted:

It could also be used for a renegade General the Fellowship befriends instead of kills!

When I was reading the Forging Bonds rules, I realized I wanted this kind of thing to happen at least once during a game of Fellowship I run. Such good drama fodder.

Blind Azathoth
Jul 28, 2006
Dia ad aghaidh's ad aodaun... agus bas dunarch ort! Dhonas 's dholas ort, agus leat-sa!... Ungl unl... rrlh ... chchch...
One quick minor editing thing for the Dragon (which looks awesome, by the way, and I regret bemoaning it winning the vote): it should be "Treasure/Dragon's Hoard" instead of "Horde."

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

unseenlibrarian posted:

"Overlord's Beautiful Offspring", which could just be a weird twist on the heir, admittedly.

...Actually now I'm disappointed that this is not a direct option for the Heir's "Tell us about your people"

I'd allow it.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


When you activate That Wasn't Even My Final Form, is there any reason not to damage stats as your price? You ignore the Despair aspect and your stats get trashed after the scene is over anyways.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

It makes it somewhat easier to get Taken Out in the intervening time.

THE LESBIATHAN
Jan 22, 2011

The name Daria was already taken.
For the purposes of Natural Hermits, does a player with the Little Giant destiny count as a Giant?

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

THE LESBIATHAN posted:

For the purposes of Natural Hermits, does a player with the Little Giant destiny count as a Giant?

They do now! I have just added a bit to the Strong in the Real Way move to mention that.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??
I just got the last piece of art I was waiting on so I am prepping up for PDF release right now. I scrawled through the last three pages for some Review Quotes to put in the product page:



Let me know if you do not want me to use your quote, or if you want to be attributed as something other than "anonymous backer." Quotes used:

Golden Bee posted:

Yeah, our world is an Archipelago with Hawaiian Kobolds and Germanic Barbarian Halflings. The Empire is a far flung London-expy, the mer-elves control the sea lanes, and the Dwarves were created by the God of Battle. Unfortunately, the God made them too well; they ate him and live on the island of his hollowed-out scorpion body.

Covok posted:

It looks like the Fellowship Playbooks do something that a lot of roleplaying games do not: they plainly explain how to play a roleplaying game for newbies and give some good GMing advice. Like, having that all in the handout is wonderful!

Clockwork Gadget posted:

I'm very excited this thing is finally about to be out there for everyone to try. My one regret is that it's going to be basically impossible to get my actual play recording group to switch over to this IMMEDIATELY as our ongoing campaign.

EscortMission posted:

Things my group did in the game I just ran
1. Fired the halfling out of a cannon so he could fistfight a renegade space angel
2. Said halfling tore around on a bear yelling about how great he was until villagers asked the party meekly to stop him
3. Threw a flashbang in the Overlord's face immediately after his "I'm doing this for the greater good" monologue and made off with his sword in the confusion
4. Arranged for the Overlord to sit in mashed potatoes immediately after his "I'll get you next time" monologue
5. Other things

This is a Good Game. :allears:

Clockwork Gadget
Oct 30, 2008

tick tock

gnome7 posted:

Quotes used:

I'm still working on securing the switch! At the very least, I'm determined to get them to agree to testing it as a one-shot.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
I'm good with my quote being used. You can credit as "Nicholas Arroyo," if you decide to credit.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??
And Fellowship is now for sale in PDF. Kickstarter update with backer download links will be up within the hour.

gnome7 fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Apr 7, 2016

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
That links to a mediafire download of the game. You might want to change that asap.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

Covok posted:

That links to a mediafire download of the game. You might want to change that asap.

Yeah I just noticed before I posted the same link in the Dungeon World thread, it has been fixed.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Congratulations gnome! I am going to push hard for my group of relative newbies to try this at our next game night.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


gnome7 posted:

And Fellowship is now for sale in PDF. Kickstarter update with backer download links will be up within the hour.

Congratulations on releasing a cool game and helping ensure my thus far flawless KS record.

Can't wait to get off work and give it a read.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

gnome7 posted:

And Fellowship is now for sale in PDF. Kickstarter update with backer download links will be up within the hour.

Congrats! I missed out on the KS so I'm pumped to get to finally read the full thing

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Will we only be getting the medifire links or will we be getting a dtrpg coupon?

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??
There will also be a coupon but I need to do some setup stuff to mail those out. I have put starting on that off until tomorrow.

madadric
May 18, 2008

Such a BK.

gnome7 posted:

And Fellowship is now for sale in PDF. Kickstarter update with backer download links will be up within the hour.

Purchased!

Congratulations Gnome, I'm really excited to get deep into this game.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Congrats, Gnome! I'm going to run this for some folks on IRC, but I hope to do a game for some Real People soon!

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Gratz gnome, good work.

JesterOfAmerica
Sep 11, 2015
Congrats on another kickstarter fulfilled!

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
Hurray.

Weird the old Squire art is now the Heir!

Banana Man
Oct 2, 2015

mm time 2 gargle piss and shit
Bought it. Can someone provide more examples of Finishing Them using wisdom? I'm having trouble coming up with situations that make sense unless like Aragorn getting the forsaken ghost guys on his side qualifies as that.

potatocubed
Jul 26, 2012

*rathian noises*
Yeeeesss. Now to sequester some time, round up the usual suspects, and see if they want to play it.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Banana Man posted:

Bought it. Can someone provide more examples of Finishing Them using wisdom? I'm having trouble coming up with situations that make sense unless like Aragorn getting the forsaken ghost guys on his side qualifies as that.

When you bring in their loved one who they thought lost to plead with them to turn away from the path they're on, that's finishing them with Wisdom.

When you help a ghost achieve the goal that bound it to the place it's haunting, allowing it to peacefully pass into the afterlife.

When you engage them in a philosophical debate and reveal the hollowness of their beliefs...

Etc.

Banana Man
Oct 2, 2015

mm time 2 gargle piss and shit

unseenlibrarian posted:

When you bring in their loved one who they thought lost to plead with them to turn away from the path they're on, that's finishing them with Wisdom.

When you help a ghost achieve the goal that bound it to the place it's haunting, allowing it to peacefully pass into the afterlife.

When you engage them in a philosophical debate and reveal the hollowness of their beliefs...

Etc.

Ah ok thanks

Banana Man
Oct 2, 2015

mm time 2 gargle piss and shit
I really like this btw.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
I'm thinking of making a quick article to promote the game's release. Mind if I use an image or two like the cover?

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

Covok posted:

I'm thinking of making a quick article to promote the game's release. Mind if I use an image or two like the cover?

Sure! Feel free to screencap anything you want from the book, too, I find it useful for showing how things work.

Pyradox
Oct 23, 2012

...some kind of monster, I think.

Congrats! I need to start building characters ASAP.

kalonZombie
May 24, 2010

D&D 3.5 Book of Erotic Fantasy
So quick question which may have already been addressed: Generals, for the most part, just act exactly like their minion counterparts except they are Threats To The World. I get that. But do Threats To The World get any special rules about not getting immediately chumped by a 10+ Finish Them roll? I feel like if you build a General, and they're a big threat, it's kind of... silly and against the spirit of the thing that a Fellowship member can just immediately put them down at the very start of an encounter.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

kalonZombie posted:

So quick question which may have already been addressed: Generals, for the most part, just act exactly like their minion counterparts except they are Threats To The World. I get that. But do Threats To The World get any special rules about not getting immediately chumped by a 10+ Finish Them roll? I feel like if you build a General, and they're a big threat, it's kind of... silly and against the spirit of the thing that a Fellowship member can just immediately put them down at the very start of an encounter.

Well, they need an Advantage, which hypothetically should be hard to get against a terrifying foe such as a General, though I can see an Orc with the weapon-breaking move just unloading on a dude from the go, which does seem like it could be kind of anticlimactic.

RSIxidor
Jun 19, 2012

Folks who can't handle a self-reference paradox are real suckers.
YASSSSSS

I'm quite excited. I guess I"ll be reading this now instead of fixing people's networks.

kalonZombie
May 24, 2010

D&D 3.5 Book of Erotic Fantasy

spectralent posted:

Well, they need an Advantage, which hypothetically should be hard to get against a terrifying foe such as a General, though I can see an Orc with the weapon-breaking move just unloading on a dude from the go, which does seem like it could be kind of anticlimactic.

Even with the advantage, a general is typically such a big target that party members would be working together to bring him down, so the start of a fight could potentially go: Player 1 goes to Keep Them Busy with a 10+ result, next player uses the advantage to Finish Them with a 10+ result, the general immediately goes down and has to retreat / be destroyed. I'm just wondering that if it's better that, for generals specifically, it's better to treat a 10+ Finish Them as damaging two stats instead of just out and out "killing" them.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
My read is that Fellowship takes fictional positioning very seriously, so you probably should reasonably exacting about how they accomplish their Keep Busy and Take Out and be exacting about if it counts. But, then, we haven't played properly yet.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

gnome7 posted:

Sure! Feel free to screencap anything you want from the book, too, I find it useful for showing how things work.

How does this look to you?

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

That looks great!

kalonZombie posted:

So quick question which may have already been addressed: Generals, for the most part, just act exactly like their minion counterparts except they are Threats To The World. I get that. But do Threats To The World get any special rules about not getting immediately chumped by a 10+ Finish Them roll? I feel like if you build a General, and they're a big threat, it's kind of... silly and against the spirit of the thing that a Fellowship member can just immediately put them down at the very start of an encounter.

Generals do not have any special protections, no. The Overlord and Set Pieces only take damage if they'd be Destroyed, but Generals can be Destroyed as normal. This is the main reason they should have minions with them - once you reach them, while they are scary and will make you pay for attacking them, a General isn't any tougher than anyone else.

If you want a General to stand alone as a big scary terminator threat, I don't see any reason you couldn't make Destroying Them only deal damage, like it does to the Overlord. But I'd only make that change for a loner General who doesn't rely on minions to get things done.

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Astus
Nov 11, 2008

kalonZombie posted:

So quick question which may have already been addressed: Generals, for the most part, just act exactly like their minion counterparts except they are Threats To The World. I get that. But do Threats To The World get any special rules about not getting immediately chumped by a 10+ Finish Them roll? I feel like if you build a General, and they're a big threat, it's kind of... silly and against the spirit of the thing that a Fellowship member can just immediately put them down at the very start of an encounter.

Remember that every time the Overlord could advance their plans, they could instead get a new General, so they are somewhat replaceable. Generals aren't really dangerous because of how powerful they are, but because they represent the Overlord and extend their master's influence. They can also form bonds with the Fellowship, and use Heart of Iron to make a player automatically fail a roll, and then the General both gets the spotlight and Twists the Knife against that player, which always lets you make a Hard Cut against them. So a General isn't dangerous because he can fight off the entire Fellowship on his own (he probably can't), but because he doesn't actually need to be in the same room as the Fellowship to form Bonds with them to use later. If left alone, a General can inflict harm against a PC's people, which lets the General Forge a Bond even if the two have never met.

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