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Mega64 posted:QTE mini-game. I found some leaked footage 
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zedprime posted:and final showdown in the lifestream Sephiroth Is that even a thing though? It came up in Elentor's LP and now I kinda agree with the interpretation that it's not actually Sephiroth, it's just Cloud overcoming the "shadow" of Seph in his psyche.
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Apr 7, 2016 01:27
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The White Dragon posted:Is that even a thing though? It came up in Elentor's LP and now I kinda agree with the interpretation that it's not actually Sephiroth, it's just Cloud overcoming the "shadow" of Seph in his psyche. The fight before that.
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Apr 7, 2016 01:36
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The White Dragon posted:Is that even a thing though? It came up in Elentor's LP and now I kinda agree with the interpretation that it's not actually Sephiroth, it's just Cloud overcoming the "shadow" of Seph in his psyche. It could be Cloud holding back the planet from saving itself, but that's kind of contrary to the whole post Mideel plot being Cloud is still kinda psychologically hosed up but at least has control over his body and mind again again.
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Apr 7, 2016 01:37
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zedprime posted:If you are on board Safer Sephiroth is the final shred of Jenova puppeted chimeras outside the lifestream, you've annihilated everything Jenova or Sephiroth have control over but Sepiroth the man frozen in materia is still unaccounted for, and something is preventing the lifestream from channeling Holy. That's definitely Sephiroth you kill at the end there. The party even makes a huge deal about how this is the REAL DEAL 'cuz he's magically torturing them all effortlessly.. Plus we're told that it's Sephiroth holding Holy back and we see Holy right behind Sephiroth before final battles. Kind of a nice visual aid, ya know? Also he's specifically dead by Advent Children which is why the Bishie Brothers exist but we can ignore that.
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Apr 7, 2016 01:48
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NikkolasKing posted:That's definitely Sephiroth you kill at the end there. The party even makes a huge deal about how this is the REAL DEAL 'cuz he's magically torturing them all effortlessly.. Plus we're told that it's Sephiroth holding Holy back and we see Holy right behind Sephiroth before final battles. Kind of a nice visual aid, ya know? and gently caress, somebody explode a sun over my head I didn't want to get into this dumb discussion again until the remake ends
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Apr 7, 2016 01:55
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zedprime posted:I think they even mention in the Ultimania that you chase Sephiroth because a super deformed Sephiroth field model worked, where the super deformed Jenova models looked dumb. Is that really the only reason? Seems like they wanted us to think Sephiroth was up and still around even if he wasn't exactly.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:13
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EVERYBODYS loving SEPHIROTH. My first playthrough I named everybody Sephiroth that I could.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:44
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bloodychill posted:Is that really the only reason? Seems like they wanted us to think Sephiroth was up and still around even if he wasn't exactly.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:52
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Sephiroth as of the time you spend playing the game has already mentally overcome Jenova; by the time you start fighting the Jenova body part monsters, she has lost all agency and her cells are acting under Sephiroth's will. There was a vocal minority back in the day that wanted to push the idea that Sephiroth was slaving under Jenova's control, but it's exactly the opposite and rightly so for thematic reasons. He's meant to be Cloud's opposite: naturally gifted, immediately and apparently better than everyone else without even trying and, most importantly, completely in control of himself and certain of what he wants. The final fight between the two of them represents Cloud's ultimate triumph over his own weakness of spirit, as the mental manifestation of who he is as a person proceeds to chop Sephiroth's will into tiny pieces.
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Apr 7, 2016 03:42
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Sephiroth's only, like, level 50 dude. By the end of the game everybody's at least level 70.
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Apr 7, 2016 03:51
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It's not that hard to figure out. Sephiroth is imprisoned in the lifestream/the North Crater. Cloud's memories of Sephiroth are of the actual guy, the Jenova takes his form due to his deep connection with her. You never meet the real Sephiroth until the end of the game. His ambitions are unknowable, but it seems likely that he's grown deeply nihilistic due to his upbringing. That negative energy empowered Jenova, who gathered itself together in the Reunion. Together with Sephiroth, they called upon Meteor. Then you gotta fix that poo poo.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:01
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Sephiroth's basically Shadow the Hedgehog to Aerith's Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:11
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so Cloud is Elise
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Barret is Tails and Tifa is Knuckles, pretty obv
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Honestly, the plot of FFVII isn't so much complex as it simply has a lot of moving parts to it. You have: Shinra The Heroes Sephiroth Jenova brroken down further: Heidregger and Scarlet the Turks Rufus and his father Hojo Cloud's memory issues and Tifa's knowledge of them; Barret, Red 13, and Yuffie all have home towns ruined by Shinra and seek to rebuild them in different ways. Cid also falls in this group. Vincent seeks revenge against Hojo. Cait Sith is a spy, but is sympathetic to the Heroes' aim. Sephiroth is a fragmented memory; Jenova is the actual present threat. Sephiroth is still alive, and has his own plan; it is similar, but possibly different than Jenova's. Jenova wants to corrupt the world; Sephiroth wants to destroy it. Further concepts: Lifestream The Planet defends itself (Weapons) Rural culture being destroyed by industrial culture Technology versus nature; mankind versus the world But ultimately, all of these plots and concepts lead to the same end. The Planet has to be saved, and Shinra has to be destroyed. Sephiroth and Jenova are the former threat,; Shinra is the latter. The game succeeds in this by having you go out, destroy Shinra utterly in a lengthy and challenging dungeon and rush of bosses; then you save the Planet with Sephiroth. ...I tried to write up a one-sentence of FFVII and failed completely, so actually, maybe the story is kind of convoluted after all. Not in a bad way, but it's not nearly as simple as FFIV, which can be summed up as: Cecil, a knight of an aggressive kingdom, is betrayed by his king and sent on a suicide mission, because he questioned their wanton genocide of a neighboring city state. Renouncing his oath to them, he becomes a Paladin, and is joined by others to go and fight his former countrymen, in the process discovering deep truths about the world he lives in and his own birth and destiny.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:30
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that makes yuffie, big the cat
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8-Bit Scholar posted:a bunch of bullshit You have: Dr. Eggman = Rufus Tyhe Egg Empire = Shinra The Turks = whatever the gently caress crazy boss robots WEAPONs = together they form the Death Egg Meteor = Space Colony Ark Sonic goes on adventures. Joined by Tails and finds friendly rival in Knucks. Pursued by romantic love interest Amy. Then Sega gets too deep into the furry poo poo and out spews all these other retarded rear end characters and the plot gets so loving stupid. motherfucker this all fits too perfectly. Square-Enix had a license to make a Sonic game and they did, but halfway through development they decided that this story could be successful and renamed it Final Fantasy 7.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:38
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Honestly, the plot of FFVII isn't so much complex as it simply has a lot of moving parts to it. I'm curious now, how would you sum up FFVII's fellow PSX entries?
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Apr 7, 2016 04:40
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FF7 is the story about some dudes chasing another dude while i get dreadfully bored and play something else after 10 hours
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Apr 7, 2016 04:42
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It's real simple yo, you got this fangirl obsessed with this German electrometal band Time Kompression and she wants to get them to play at the prom but they're pretty awful so you and the rest of the student council have to stop her and get Hot Dogz to play instead and at some point you find out you all grew up in the same orphanage but forgot.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:45
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FF7 is a good game
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Apr 7, 2016 04:46
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NikkolasKing posted:I'm curious now, how would you sum up FFVII's fellow PSX entries? Fart, poo poo, piss on your face
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Apr 7, 2016 04:48
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8-Bit Scholar posted:...I tried to write up a one-sentence of FFVII and failed completely, so actually, maybe the story is kind of convoluted after all. I honestly had thought you were joking. "It's not hard, it's just <crazy convoluted poo poo involving memories, clones, creatures taking people's forms, and negative energy that 0.002% of the people that played the game figured out>"
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Apr 7, 2016 04:49
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bloodychill posted:It's real simple yo, you got this fangirl obsessed with this German electrometal band Time Kompression and she wants to get them to play at the prom but they're pretty awful so you and the rest of the student council have to stop her and get Hot Dogz to play instead and at some point you find out you all grew up in the same orphanage but forgot.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I honestly had thought you were joking. "It's not hard, it's just <crazy convoluted poo poo involving memories, clones, creatures taking people's forms, and negative energy that 0.002% of the people that played the game figured out>" It's honestly truly impressive the game is as coherent as it is, bad translation or no. There's actually quite a lot of poo poo happening throughout.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:54
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RatHat posted:Final Fantasy 13 came out in 2009 and the 3rd game came out in 2013, so only 4 years. Unless something goes wrong in production, and assuming Ep 1 comes out 2017, we should have all 3 games by 2022 at the latest. Not to mention that the XIII trilogy wasn't planned from the beginning and was made on the annoying Crystal Tools engine, whereas FFVIIR is planned out from the start, most of its story is already done, and it's being made on the far simpler UE4.
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The White Dragon posted:that makes yuffie, big the cat That's obviously Cait Sith
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Apr 7, 2016 04:55
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To be honest I kinda want Cloud to just have a meltdown in some VII canon. Like, he kills Safer Sephiroth, but like goes batshit and hallucinates everything after Safer Sephiroth. Or have him go mad as he believes Seph killed Aerith but instead reveal Aerith killed Seph leading to Cloud killing Aerith Is it wrong to want an anime protag that gets absolutely delusional
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Apr 7, 2016 04:58
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Pretty sure this is the plot of FFVIII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVf940pO5ME&t=46s
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Apr 7, 2016 04:58
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corn in the bible posted:That's obviously Cait Sith Nah too obvious, Cait Sith is like Espio
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Apr 7, 2016 05:15
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The White Dragon posted:Nah too obvious, Cait Sith is like Espio Cait Sith is Gamma, and Reeve is that bird Eggman built into him.
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Apr 7, 2016 05:33
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widespread posted:To be honest I kinda want Cloud to just have a meltdown in some VII canon. why would you want any of this
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Apr 7, 2016 05:34
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Barudak posted:Pretty sure this is the plot of FFVIII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVf940pO5ME&t=46s Or, you know, Eyes on Me.
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Apr 7, 2016 05:36
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8-Bit Scholar posted:why would you want any of this lets just say I come from an era where youtube could make you disgusted of VII
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widespread posted:lets just say I come from an era where youtube could make you disgusted of VII The gently caress kind of time traveler are you Go back to the future Lavos hosed it up I get it but look you can't crash here my parents are gonna be home soon
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Apr 7, 2016 05:38
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The best-kept secret of Final Fantasy is that most of the main games are actually good and teenagers on YouTube are just whiny douchebags. Except the remake of 3. Don't play the remake of 3.
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Apr 7, 2016 05:42
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Augus posted:The best-kept secret of Final Fantasy is that most of the main games are actually good and teenagers on YouTube are just whiny douchebags.
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widespread posted:To be honest I kinda want Cloud to just have a meltdown in some VII canon.
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The White Dragon posted:that makes yuffie, big the cat Jon St. John voicing Yuffie would be funny.
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