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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Epic High Five posted:

Alt-right is the future of the Republican party, and probably conservatism in general. The next generation of Democratic hopefuls will be facing off against Robert Morrows

The Southern Strategy is coming home to roost in ways nobody predicted.

I don't know, I feel like eventually these people have to burn themselves out. If (and only if) they keep losing national elections, eventually some more moderate types have to shove them out of the GOP, right? I'm not saying next year, but they can't keep going at this extreme and remain a credible national party indefinitely, can they?

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Jurgan posted:

I don't know, I feel like eventually these people have to burn themselves out. If (and only if) they keep losing national elections, eventually some more moderate types have to shove them out of the GOP, right? I'm not saying next year, but they can't keep going at this extreme and remain a credible national party indefinitely, can they?

I dunno, they can survive a good bit on 'THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST CRAZY BIGOTS, JUST HOW THE QUEERS AND BLACKS WANT IT"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Pretty much, I'm not sure the new right is really all that worried about losing elections as long as they can keep a persecution complex fueled by dank memes going

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Jurgan posted:

I don't know, I feel like eventually these people have to burn themselves out. If (and only if) they keep losing national elections, eventually some more moderate types have to shove them out of the GOP, right? I'm not saying next year, but they can't keep going at this extreme and remain a credible national party indefinitely, can they?

The problem with that we've been saying that since 2009, and their only getting bigger.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
You gotta keep in mind there is literally nothing these people want more than to claim to be oppressed because they're not being allowed to oppress others. These are the people that dump piles of money on anyone who uses the magic combo of words like "SJW" and "Censorship" regardless of actual reality. If you wanna make some quick cash and somehow no longer care about your reputation, just start screaming racial slurs in public and film yourself being escorted away to show Your Proud Voice Being Silenced or whatever, the gofundme will be made by the next day.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

right on the nose. thats what i mean. a LBGT character should be a character who is LBGT. treat it as a part of someone sole idntety is that they are lgbt. like I like Joker from mass effect. he has physical disasbilities. as someone with physical disabilities i like him because he is a full charater, not just token cripple. same with oracle in batman. the one thing i get annoyed with the author with the Baulders gate bullshit is they feel way to pleased with slapping herself on the back for writing diverse characters. it just feels weird. i don't like writers who self felicitate themselves to try to look good. write the stuff because its the right thing to do. not because it makes u look progressive.

I am into Kantian ethics. sue me. lol

Eh maybe they think giving an NPC a bit of backstory is interesting, makes the world feel a bit more real like it exists beyond the PC's party.

If she had a funny name because she was an orphan and made it up herself, no one would be all "oh these writers just put in an orphan to look good, god how self-fellating" but because she is trans, which you know also exists, suddenly it can't be flavor and we've got to get our dander up because clearly the only reason anyone would acknowledge trans people exist is to lord it over us that they're more-progressive-than-thou right?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Jurgan posted:

I don't know, I feel like eventually these people have to burn themselves out. If (and only if) they keep losing national elections, eventually some more moderate types have to shove them out of the GOP, right? I'm not saying next year, but they can't keep going at this extreme and remain a credible national party indefinitely, can they?

As long as there are people ready to blame anyone different from them for their problems who want validation, the rabid right wing will always have an audience.


Tatum Girlparts posted:

You gotta keep in mind there is literally nothing these people want more than to claim to be oppressed because they're not being allowed to oppress others. These are the people that dump piles of money on anyone who uses the magic combo of words like "SJW" and "Censorship" regardless of actual reality. If you wanna make some quick cash and somehow no longer care about your reputation, just start screaming racial slurs in public and film yourself being escorted away to show Your Proud Voice Being Silenced or whatever, the gofundme will be made by the next day.

To borrow from Prester Jane's thread, a good number of these people live their lives according to a narrative where they are the heroes fighting against an enemy of a thousand faces that must be destroyed. They will gladly throw in with anyone who promises that they will hurt this enemy, regardless of who it is or how badly the acts backfire. They cannot fathom the idea of a complex world and see any attempts to make them recognize complexity as deceit from the Enemy. No amount of reality will ever shake this belief, making them painfully easy to manipulate by people who want to. Keeping up the endless war against a vague foe is just perfect for keeping these groups in step, which is why the Republicans worship the military so much.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

VitalSigns posted:

Eh maybe they think giving an NPC a bit of backstory is interesting, makes the world feel a bit more real like it exists beyond the PC's party.

If she had a funny name because she was an orphan and made it up herself, no one would be all "oh these writers just put in an orphan to look good, god how self-fellating" but because she is trans, which you know also exists, suddenly it can't be flavor and we've got to get our dander up because clearly the only reason anyone would acknowledge trans people exist is to lord it over us that they're more-progressive-than-thou right?

i didn't mean the writing of the character, I meant her one post on steam. it just seemed kinda dumb to me.(her statement, not the character)



Geostomp posted:



To borrow from Prester Jane's thread, a good number of these people live their lives according to a narrative where they are the heroes fighting against an enemy of a thousand faces that must be destroyed. They will gladly throw in with anyone who promises that they will hurt this enemy, regardless of who it is or how badly the acts backfire. They cannot fathom the idea of a complex world and see any attempts to make them recognize complexity as deceit from the Enemy. No amount of reality will ever shake this belief, making them painfully easy to manipulate by people who want to. Keeping up the endless war against a vague foe is just perfect for keeping these groups in step, which is why the Republicans worship the military so much.

pretty much. while there are ton of people i dont like on either side of the spectrum for various reasons. it doesn't mean i throw my lot in with shitheads on the other side who basically have the same thought process, but much worse politics. Like i may agree with someones politics, but i think they are a complete shithead on how they deliver it and how they make borderline authoriterian statements once and while. It depends on the individual with me i guess.

But your right, most of these people are useful idiots. they are sad nerdy dudes/ladies who feel hosed over by various poo poo and blame the left for it.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Speaking of "robocop," a few pages ago in the PYF IoSM thread there was an brief bit about Justin Beiber's new haircut and apparently something gets word filtered to "dubstep," but I couldn't figure out what. Did I just misinterpret that?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Dr Christmas posted:

Speaking of "robocop," a few pages ago in the PYF IoSM thread there was an brief bit about Justin Beiber's new haircut and apparently something gets word filtered to "dubstep," but I couldn't figure out what. Did I just misinterpret that?

If you quote a post you'll see the unfiltered word.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Ben Shapiro was giving a speech in my officebuilding this evening. A kinder, gentler Breitbart attention-seeker.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Ooooh the word dubstep wasn't the filtered thing the poster discovered. hth gets filtered to I'm a huge prick.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Matt Walsh has unleashed his most transphobic spiel to date.

First off, every time transgender is mentioned he puts it in quotation marks because transgender does not exist.

There is so much hosed up stuff in the article so I won't copy paste whole thing but goddamn, Walsh is full of violent hate.

quote:

Yes, it might make a gay man uncomfortable to encounter a devout Christian wedding photographer who would rather not do business with him.

How is this anything but an open defence of "whites only" businesses?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

VitalSigns posted:



How is this anything but an open defence of "whites only" businesses?

Because Walsh doesn't think he's a bigot and these laws invoke Christianity so support their bigotry. Nobody who supports them seems to realize the danger of giving businesses the right to segregate at will.

Polybius91
Jun 4, 2012

Cobrastan is not a real country.

Geostomp posted:

Because Walsh doesn't think he's a bigot and these laws invoke Christianity so support their bigotry. Nobody who supports them seems to realize the danger of giving businesses the right to segregate at will.
They see it as a feature rather than a bug.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Polybius91 posted:

They see it as a feature rather than a bug.

You're right. The whole intention of these bills are bringing back segregation through a legal backdoor. It would make perfect sense that are designed to fit the entire rainbow of hatred.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Epic High Five posted:

Alt-right is the future of the Republican party, and probably conservatism in general. The next generation of Democratic hopefuls will be facing off against Robert Morrows

The Southern Strategy is coming home to roost in ways nobody predicted.
lol no

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

BigRed0427 posted:

The problem with that we've been saying that since 2009, and their only getting bigger.

[citation needed]

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Aeka 2.0 posted:

Is "alt-right" the new thing this week? I've never heard about it.

I'll let republican strategist Rick Wilson describe the alt right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiS6a1XE91M

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Dr Christmas posted:

Ooooh the word dubstep wasn't the filtered thing the poster discovered. hth gets filtered to I'm a huge prick.

Dubstep should be filtered. To duckstep.


h2h

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

BigRed0427 posted:

The problem with that we've been saying that since 2009, and their only getting bigger.

It's a frightening concept, but think about this: Donald Trump faced significant backlash for saying women who get abortions should face a legal penalty.

He didn't say we need to kick people out of the country or that we should pull women's medical records for retribution. He basically said, if America outlawed abortion (aka if Roe v Wade were overturned, like many people claim they want) then women who abort should enter the justice system. People flipped.

Just like comments on the internet, I think a lot of right wing posturing is theoretical. Mental. :v: Convincing them can be an uphill battle, but most people hold some progressive ideals. Maybe they're pragmatic and never see the idea passing Congress, but you'd be surprised what even the most God, Guns, and gravy guy supports.

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Playstation 4 posted:

Dubstep should be filtered. To duckstep.


h2h

And then we could filter heavier forms of electronica such as Industrial to goosestep.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

beatlegs posted:

Ann Coulter on MSNBC today: "women are gonna get a lot more abortions if we don't close our border with Mexico and bring in all of Latin American rape culture."

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/04/05/ann-coulter-latin-american-rape-culture-will-ca/209772

No one present called her out on it or even responded to it. At the end of the interview Chris Matthews said non-sarcastically "Ann Coulter, you're amazing".

Back when I first started paying fairly close attention to politics around 2006 or so, I would see news headlines that would read something like:

"ANN COULTER: 9/11 widows are selfish bitches".

and I'd think that she was the worst the conservative movement had to offer. Now, in 2016, I realize that such a line said by Ann Coulter ten years ago, could literally come from any one of the scores of actual Republican congressmen.

In other words, the woman is a has been.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
She's a bellwether. She says things that are outrageous and surprising, but her saying them at least gets them talked about and exposes people to the idea. Then, a couple years later, someone else proposes the same thing and it doesn't seem quite so outrageous because hey, haven't we heard that before? I forget who said it though...

She's not the only bellwether in conservative media, nor is she the best anymore, but she was one of the first to rise to the attention of the public at large in the modern era.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Hmmm, looking back at Walsh's tweets I don't see the Magic Checkmark, perhaps using the scare quotes on him might work the way Milo gets needled by questioning his authenticity? :v:

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Yeah, some dude on the forum got mad that she had rear end and it didnt fit the character(mostly it was the rear end) so they removed it, and made a much better pose that shows just as much rear end, but it fits her character. so blizzard trolled everyone and all was good.

Was that the inflating butt?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007



#conservativebabes

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:



#conservativebabes

How does that work?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Discendo Vox posted:

How does that work?

Christianity GOOD, Islam BAD.

Or...

If Christianity ceased to exist people wouldn't have anything stopping them from raping and murder loving the world to death.(example; Duck Dynasty guy)
If Islam ceased to exist, why that'd be just peachy!

MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 7, 2016

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

MariusLecter posted:

Christianity GOOD, Islam BAD.

Or...

If Christianity ceased to exist people wouldn't have anything stopping them from raping and murder loving the world to death.(example; Duck Dynasty guy)
If Islam ceased to exist, why that'd be just peachy!

You're not going far enough. Islam makes people terrorists, so without it the Arabs would go back to being docile and grateful that we even grace them with our presence when we collect their oil tithes.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Keeshhound posted:

You're not going far enough. Islam makes people terrorists, so without it the Arabs would go back to being docile and grateful that we even grace them with our presence when we collect their oil tithes.

Additionally, Christianity brings civilization and philanthropy to the dark-skinned heathens of the third world. There's no analogue for that in Islam!

...what is Red Crescent anyway? Sounds communist.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:



#conservativebabes

Assuming this is a typo and the second i is missing.

sexy fucking muskrat
Aug 22, 2010

by exmarx

Discendo Vox posted:

How does that work?

That quote came up earlier in the thread, and iirc, what he specifically meant was that Christians provide charity for millions of people, and without Christianity, they would not be charitable anymore, and thus those people dependent on the help of others would die. Muslims, on the other hand, don't run charities or do anything for anyone, so obviously if Islam ceased to be, nothing of value would be lost.

Of course, Muslims do run charities, and religion is not the only reason why people would want to help their fellow man. But what do I know, I'm only an amateur truth-sayer.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
Charity is explicitly one of the primary reasons for one of the Five Pillars of Islam, in fact. The whole tithing thing. As I recall it is for maintenance of the church system, maintenance of the educational system, and general good works and community charity.

(Which is in turn responsible for the jizya "you ain't a Muslim" tax, because folks got annoyed that the other People of the Book weren't required to contribute while Muslims were.)

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Mr Jaunts posted:

That quote came up earlier in the thread, and iirc, what he specifically meant was that Christians provide charity for millions of people, and without Christianity, they would not be charitable anymore, and thus those people dependent on the help of others would die. Muslims, on the other hand, don't run charities or do anything for anyone, so obviously if Islam ceased to be, nothing of value would be lost.

Of course, Muslims do run charities, and religion is not the only reason why people would want to help their fellow man. But what do I know, I'm only an amateur truth-sayer.

Wow I went from thinking he was being a genocidal shithead to being a simpleton.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Aeka 2.0 posted:

Is "alt-right" the new thing this week? I've never heard about it.

Epic High Five posted:

Alt-right is the future of the Republican party, and probably conservatism in general. The next generation of Democratic hopefuls will be facing off against Robert Morrows

The Southern Strategy is coming home to roost in ways nobody predicted.
I actually really like the term "alt-right", because it describes a modern movement but doesn't use new/neo/modern/post-modern/whatever the gently caress terminology that's way too overused in the name.

Xyretire
May 22, 2003
Lickin' the Gun.

Crowsbeak posted:

Wow I went from thinking he was being a genocidal shithead to being a simpleton.

It's actually quite probable that he's both, although this isn't a great example of him being a genocidal shithead.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

fade5 posted:

I actually really like the term "alt-right", because it describes a modern movement but doesn't use new/neo/modern/post-modern/whatever the gently caress terminology that's way too overused in the name.

Also it doesn't word filter your sentence into an eyebrow raising statement.

UV_Catastrophe
Dec 29, 2008

Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."
Pillbug

Discendo Vox posted:

Ben Shapiro was giving a speech in my officebuilding this evening. A kinder, gentler Breitbart attention-seeker.

Fun anecdote: Whichever conservative student group that was hosting Shapiro here had people advertising the event inside the student union building this past week. This basically consisted of a guy holding up a sign with Shapiro on it and displaying the title of his little event, which was apparently called "When Diversity Becomes a Problem".

As I was passing through the building, I had the good fortune to witness the beginning of a really awkward conversation between two black students and an extremely uncomfortable sign-waving white kid. At that particular moment, the guy looked like he desperately wanted to sink into the floor and disappear forever.

It was very :lol: worthy

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Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Charity is explicitly one of the primary reasons for one of the Five Pillars of Islam, in fact. The whole tithing thing. As I recall it is for maintenance of the church system, maintenance of the educational system, and general good works and community charity.

(Which is in turn responsible for the jizya "you ain't a Muslim" tax, because folks got annoyed that the other People of the Book weren't required to contribute while Muslims were.)

The "you ain't a Muslim" tax gets quoted as Muslim religious persecution of others in the past but it was also tied up in the fact that Muslims could serve in Islamic militaries but non-Muslims couldn't. It was a sort of "hey you can't serve but we're keeping you safe so give us some gold, tia" tax.

Considering what Christians tended to do to non-Christians that's pretty drat mild. That was "hey guys we don't give a poo poo if you not Muslim people want to live here and do your thing but pay us some taxes because we're keeping bandits away from your temples, arright?"

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