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Improviser posted:This looks pretty cool actually. My biggest concern about this is watching a Star Wars movie without a John Williams score. That just seems wrong. Even with another composer incorporating William's themes into the score. If it helps, the composer, Alexandre Desplat, has some experience taking over a series started by John Williams. He scored the final two Harry Potter movies. (And a bunch of other great scores, we'll be fine.)
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Apr 7, 2016 14:32
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euphronius posted:It's a visual medium. jivjov posted:The movie taking place immediately before the OT looks like the OT. Shocker Is my post somehow difficult? I said that the problem is that it seems to only exist to resemble OT. That is to say, it has nothing going on for it except a familiar aesthetic. "More Star Wars" is not enough of a justification for a movie. Making Star Wars movie just for the sake of "more Star Wars" is how you get garbage. It's how you get the Expanded Universe. And this movie is by all accounts just a cinematic counterpart to the Expanded Universe. e: Just ask yourself, what is there to the trailer except "more Star Wars"? When you strip that out, there's little left. If it wasn't for the brand, it would be laughed out as a rehash of Hunger Games. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 14:33
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Is my post somehow difficult? I said that the problem is that it seems to only exist to resemble OT. That is to say, it has nothing going on for it except a familiar aesthetic. You are perfectly free not to view it. But some people want more Star Wars.
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Apr 7, 2016 14:35
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Rogue One looks just as dumb and bad as TFA. I'm a rebel. I rebel  . Great dialogue! And it's also :grimdark: like every dumb millennial movie now.
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Yeah if you take the setting out of a sci fi fantasy movie what are you left with. Good point op.
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Apr 7, 2016 14:36
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That shot of the Death Star superlaser dish shadow mimicking a classic Star Wars screen wipe is really good. BigglesSWE posted:I think one can make the argument that they're playing it very safe so far, just like TFA did. They are playing it safe, but at least the OT aesthetic is justifiable this time.
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euphronius posted:Yeah if you take the setting out of a sci fi fantasy movie what are you left with. A setting is just a device used to tell a story. A setting only matters for the story it's used to tell. Every competent storyteller understands that. The story of Rogue One seems supremely uninteresting outside of a recycled aesthetic. jivjov posted:You are perfectly free not to view it. But some people want more Star Wars. What do you have against discussion? BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Rogue One looks just as dumb and bad as TFA. You're gonna have to point me at the grimdark. I didn't see it
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BigglesSWE posted:That's a good Mon Mothma lookalike they got as well. Same actress who played her in RotS too. She's not on the cutting floor this time though.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Is my post somehow difficult? I said that the problem is that it seems to only exist to resemble OT. That is to say, it has nothing going on for it except a familiar aesthetic. You're relapsing BotL. It's a teaser trailer to a film which might well yet have some artistic merit and is being directed by one of the best new directors in Hollywood, it's way too early to be freaking out about EU degenera
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Apr 7, 2016 14:39
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Yes the next Star Wars movie should had been set on modern day earth. It's all about the Story.
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Between the samurai guy whacking stormtroopers with a wooden katana, the surprisingly drab aesthetic, corny lines that nobody would say in real life, and extremely forced dialogue delivery, this doesn't look so good to me. Looks and sounds like a late Hunger Games film with stormtroopers and AT-ATs
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jivjov posted:You're gonna have to point me at the grimdark. I didn't see it Pretty much everything Forest Whitaker says
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euphronius posted:Yes the next Star Wars movie should had been set on modern day earth. It's all about the Story. Directed by Wes Anderson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EJ6AmplD8g
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There is a way better cinematic eye in those shots as compared to Hunger games.
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Toilet Mouth posted:I don't feel strongly about the trailer one way or another, but this looks really dumb. Ginette Reno posted:Rogue One looks just as dumb and bad as TFA. I bet you two are huge shitheads in real life who hate fun things.
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multijoe posted:You're relapsing BotL. It's a teaser trailer to a film which might well yet have some artistic merit and is being directed by one of the best new directors in Hollywood, freaking it's way too early to be freaking out about EU degeneracy. You may be correct, but how many blockbuster franchises stay worthwhile eight movies in? euphronius posted:Yes the next Star Wars movie should had been set on modern day earth. It's all about the Story. What does this have to do with anything? teagone posted:I bet you two are huge shitheads in real life who hate fun things. Why does not liking a teaser trailer make them bad people? BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:You may be correct, but how many franchises stay worthwhile eight movies in? Well, Star Wars managed 7 so far.
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Hopefully there's a scene where a rebel team sans Jedi runs into Vader and get annihilated.
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Improviser posted:This looks pretty cool actually. My biggest concern about this is watching a Star Wars movie without a John Williams score. That just seems wrong. Even with another composer incorporating William's themes into the score. Well, TFA's score was pretty underwhelming for the most part despite being by John Williams. Probably a combination of Abrams' inability to integrate it into the film as effectively as he could have, the fact that a freelance orchestra was used this time instead of the London Symphony Orchestra, and the fact that Williams himself didn't conduct most of the recordings. Captain Splendid posted:Same actress who played her in RotS too. She's not on the cutting floor this time though. I didn't realize that. That's really cool. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Captain Splendid posted:Same actress who played her in RotS too. She's not on the cutting floor this time though. That's actually nice. jivjov posted:Well, Star Wars managed 7 so far. TFA isn't actually worthwhile, it only exists for the sake of the brand. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Why does not liking a teaser trailer make them bad people? Because it's Star Wars. I loving love Star Wars.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Hopefully there's a scene where a rebel team sans Jedi runs into Vader and get annihilated. I'd imagine every rebel team would be sans a Jedi.
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Leaked photo of Mads Mikkelsen's character, in costume:
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See, I get not being interested in new Star Wars movies, but those are some really good looking shots. Puts TFA to shame, easily.
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There is no competition and it's all really good. TFA isn't "put to shame". Jesus.
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Vintersorg posted:There is no competition and it's all really good. TFA isn't "put to shame". Jesus. Way to overreact to a simple comparison, dude.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:TFA isn't actually worthwhile, it only exists for the sake of the brand. And any other sequel doesn't? TFA was perfectly worthwhile as a Star Wars film.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Way to overreact to a simple comparison, dude. Overreaction to a hyperbolic statement seems natural to me 
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jivjov posted:And any other sequel doesn't? A good sequel adds something new instead of just recycling things. The prequels managed to add to the story while still being radically different. It's kind of ridiculous to see nerds celebrating "never ending star wars". I have no doubt that the movies will stay consistently "entertaining" - but consistent is also another word for boring. These movies will all make 700 million to multiple billion dollars, they'll get rated Fresh on Rottentomatoes, people will enjoy them. The formula has been perfected with the MCU. But the flipside of this is that there will be nothing interesting, risky, or controversial. You'll know exactly what you get going in, and that's it. We will have the exact same reactions when Episode VIII trailer drops. People who just want "more Star Wars" will be pleased because anything different is scary.
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Look at this visual story telling. Look at it and be amazed.   and at the end  A character arc in 3 frames as told by Lines.
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jivjov posted:And any other sequel doesn't? I don' t think Lucas greenlit ESB primarily just to make money. He took a lot of huge risks with it, both creatively and financially. Regardless of what you think of it, I think it is hard to argue that TFA was not driven almost overwhelmingly by a profit motive. That doesn't mean it didn't turn out well, but it is what it is.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:People who just want "more Star Wars" will be pleased because anything different is scary. Did you like Man of Steel? I loved Man of Steel, and I thought Batman v Superman was ok. I am also looking forward to an onslaught of Star Wars movies every year. GonSmithe posted:This is me reading this thread Haha, I was gonna say that's Mark Hamill looking at all the people who didn't like the trailer or don't like TFA.
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Of course. It's Star Wars. Outside of the first one, they were all made with the intention to make bank. It even bothered Lucas when he was making Episode 1. Didn't make the film any less creative. Which is a comment I took issue with last night. Empire Strikes Back was abosolutely made to make more money and toys. They just decided to add risky elements to it. And that's why it's good.
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