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Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

This is supposed to be good? IT looks like poo poo.

Ezquerra's early Strontium Dog art is amazing. MacNeil was an acquired taste I suppose, he's good, and America is a great Dredd tale but Chopper: Song of the Surfer is by far his best work. He's also really simplified his work these days so it looks like he just doesn't bother anymore.

Also laffo at

Payndz posted:

MacNeil and Kev Walker were easily the best of 2000AD's "fully painted" artists, but I'm guessing that the sheer amount of time and work needed to do each page is the reason they both changed their style back to coloured lineart. (Phone posting, or I'd stick up some of Walker's ABC Warriors paintwork.)

Kev Walker's stuff was decent, but it doesn't hold a candle to Bisley before he thought he was a rockstar and stop trying before Slaine: The Horned God was even done, or Glenn Fabry before he got stolen away to do Preacher covers. See also the aforementioned Sean Phillips, + Duncan Fegredo/Simon Harrison/Will Simpson's painted art.
I will agree with the flood of Bisley clowns that followed in though - Greg Staples, Dermot Power..there were about 3 other's that took over and were main artists through the 90's that just looked like piss poor photocopies of former glories.
I'll post some examples up once I get my HD out of storage tomorrow.

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Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

pre:
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CLUTCH  NIXON
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The Hero We Need
Uhhhh, wasn't Chuck Austen supposed to be a good competent artist at some point?



Maybe they should have called Steve Dillon?



Maybe Dillon did the roughs and Austen inked 'em?


(Click me for a much better larger view of that top row.)

Oh dear gently caress my eyes

:suicide:

All are from Elektra v2 - first two are from #5, and the two-page is from #4. This is also the run with Greg Horn covers, and it really says something that I was looking forward to those because glassy-eyed porn traces were a tremendous improvement over.. whatever the gently caress the interiors are. (Does it feel like lovely traces of Poser "art" to anyone else?)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Chuck Austen was never a good artist.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Rhyno posted:

Chuck Austen was never a good artist.

Or a writer.

Having him take over The Avengers after Busiek's run was a sharp contrast between competent and loving awful

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

You Am I posted:

Or a writer.

Having him take over The Avengers after Busiek's run was a sharp contrast between competent and loving awful

US War Machine had a funish story. And Worldwatch will never not be hilariously terrible.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he made 3d poser models and traced over those.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

You Am I posted:

Or a writer.

Having him take over The Avengers after Busiek's run was a sharp contrast between competent and loving awful

There was a Geoff Johns run inbetween there, and Busiek's avengers was a bit more than just competent

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe
That's an actual comic and not something someone found on deviant art ?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Rhyno posted:

US War Machine had a funish story. And Worldwatch will never not be hilariously terrible.

Honestly the entire appeal of US War Machine was what it represented, and not the art or the writing. Fun experiment

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

bobkatt013 posted:

There was a Geoff Johns run inbetween there, and Busiek's avengers was a bit more than just competent

That's the only Marvel work Geoff Johns ever did and it always manages to be completely overlooked.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Wheat Loaf posted:

That's the only Marvel work Geoff Johns ever did and it always manages to be completely overlooked.

It was bad and deserves to be overlooked. :(

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Wheat Loaf posted:

That's the only Marvel work Geoff Johns ever did and it always manages to be completely overlooked.

Probably because it was really poor.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Geoff Johns wrote a bad comic book you say. Tell me more

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Wheat Loaf posted:

That's the only Marvel work Geoff Johns ever did and it always manages to be completely overlooked.

It has ant man shrinking into a vagina, it deserves to be overlooked.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I'm not disputing it was bad, I'm just saying I'd have thought it would be more remembered than it is. I'm pretty sure it was a fairly big deal for them to get Johns at the time.

Carl Killer Miller
Apr 28, 2007

This is the way that it all falls.
This is how I feel,
This is what I need:


Thanks to the goon who suggest Devlin Waugh. Swimming in Blood rules.

(Sorry, no fancy scanner)

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Ygolonac posted:

Does it feel like lovely traces of Poser "art" to anyone else?

It is 100% lovely traces of poser art.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Goldskull posted:

Ezquerra's early Strontium Dog art is amazing. MacNeil was an acquired taste I suppose, he's good, and America is a great Dredd tale but Chopper: Song of the Surfer is by far his best work. He's also really simplified his work these days so it looks like he just doesn't bother anymore.

Huh? Insurrection looks fine and that was less than two years ago.

Sundowner
Apr 10, 2013

not even
jeff goldblum could save me from this nightmare

Carl Killer Miller posted:

Thanks to the goon who suggest Devlin Waugh. Swimming in Blood rules.

(Sorry, no fancy scanner)



haha nice one, glad I got someone else onto that book because it's bloody marvelous in every sense of those words.

edit: back from a hell of a stag for a friend so I can take some more pics of my weird comics soon.

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

I Before E posted:

It has ant man shrinking into a vagina, it deserves to be overlooked.

I had forgotten that Johns wrote that. How did he wind up doing anything than fill-ins for Tarot?

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.
Blackmail I assume.

Carl Killer Miller
Apr 28, 2007

This is the way that it all falls.
This is how I feel,
This is what I need:


Sundowner posted:

haha nice one, glad I got someone else onto that book because it's bloody marvelous in every sense of those words.

edit: back from a hell of a stag for a friend so I can take some more pics of my weird comics soon.

Yeah!

I read that trade cover to cover. I only wish that the colors weren't so washed out and dim, but it's an awesome book. It's made my coffee table book rotation.

Sundowner
Apr 10, 2013

not even
jeff goldblum could save me from this nightmare
I just remembered where I put my scanner so I think the next batch of comics I share I'll do proper scans of them for some more detail at least for the covers since scanning single pages is a pain without chancing damaging the book.

Carl Killer Miller posted:

Yeah!

I read that trade cover to cover. I only wish that the colors weren't so washed out and dim, but it's an awesome book. It's made my coffee table book rotation.

hm, is it the same trade I have or maybe a different reprint? They released a new one quite recently but mines is definitely an ooold trade... ISBN 0-7493 1556-3 (it's falling to bits actually :smith:)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Shakenbaker posted:

I had forgotten that Johns wrote that. How did he wind up doing anything than fill-ins for Tarot?

He was Richard Donner's protege. There was a small war fought over him.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Rhyno posted:

He was Richard Donner's protege. There was a small war fought over him.

I knew the first part but not the second. What's the story there?

Re: Johns's Avengers. Now that I think about it, his highest profile work when he took on Avengers must have been Flash, JSA and Teen Titans. He wouldn't have done Infinite Crisis, 52, Superman or (most significantly) Green Lantern yet. So, a big name, but not DC's franchise player.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Wheat Loaf posted:

I knew the first part but not the second. What's the story there?

Re: Johns's Avengers. Now that I think about it, his highest profile work when he took on Avengers must have been Flash, JSA and Teen Titans. He wouldn't have done Infinite Crisis, 52, Superman or (most significantly) Green Lantern yet. So, a big name, but not DC's franchise player.

Yep he was killing it on JSA and Flash, and then he started writing Avengers. The highlight was the Red Zone story with Dell Rusk, and he seemed that he was building up to a zodiac story. However, he left as DC signed him to an exclusive and allowed him free reign.

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST

Sundowner posted:

I just remembered where I put my scanner so I think the next batch of comics I share I'll do proper scans of them for some more detail at least for the covers since scanning single pages is a pain without chancing damaging the book.


hm, is it the same trade I have or maybe a different reprint? They released a new one quite recently but mines is definitely an ooold trade... ISBN 0-7493 1556-3 (it's falling to bits actually :smith:)

There's a been few different editions, the one you have is the oldest I think.

There's also a DC edition published around 2004, from when they had a deal with Rebellion to reprint 2000AD stuff, which basically looks like total poo poo because the print quality on all those books was horrible.

The more recent, improved version has this cover:

EndOfTheWorld
Jul 22, 2004

I'm an excellent critic! I automatically know when someone's done a bad job. Before you ask, yes it's a mixed blessing.
Cybernetic Crumb

Castle Radium posted:

The more recent, improved version has this cover:



I'm the zombie playing grabass. That's me

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...
I'm the chill as gently caress octopus.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

RandallODim posted:

I'm the chill as gently caress octopus.

That octopus is giving a thumbs up. Look closely.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I'm the tea cup.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Wheat Loaf posted:

I knew the first part but not the second. What's the story there?

Re: Johns's Avengers. Now that I think about it, his highest profile work when he took on Avengers must have been Flash, JSA and Teen Titans. He wouldn't have done Infinite Crisis, 52, Superman or (most significantly) Green Lantern yet. So, a big name, but not DC's franchise player.

The details have faded over time but after his little Avengers arc they offered him some other books but DC was all "Oh hell no" and made him a way better offer and he went with DC for life.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Teenage Fansub posted:

Timelapse of Jung Gi drawing interconnecting Civil War 2 covers in ink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMVJfp834uw

This was amazing :allears:

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Flesh Forge posted:

Ben Fleuter is really loving good.

Derelict.







From a few pages ago, but does anyone else think this looks like a CAD comic?

EDIT: now someone make a loss.jpg edit out of this.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Unmature posted:

From a few pages ago, but does anyone else think this looks like a CAD comic?

EDIT: now someone make a loss.jpg edit out of this.

Uh, not really, no. Maybe SLIGHTLY, but in that this is the sort of art style that CAD tries to (badly) ape.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Unmature posted:

From a few pages ago, but does anyone else think this looks like a CAD comic?

EDIT: now someone make a loss.jpg edit out of this.

Hmm yes now that you mention it this artist is really on the same level as the CAD guy.

e: context is good






Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Apr 22, 2016

sporklift
Aug 3, 2008

Feelin' it so hard.

In all examples of this comic I have to look over the panels multiple times to figure out what is going on.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


It's my first time reading it (just from the panels posted here), and it's pretty straightforward to me.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Some of the earlier pages are a bit rough, but posting Derelict in this thread as examples of bad art is just hilariously wrong.

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I think he is very good, but not everyone agrees :shrug:

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