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dispatch_async posted:Blairites have found the one weird trick to solve offshore tax issues and make the wealthy eager to pay taxes: Scrapping inheritance tax. Actually it should be 100% with some allowance to let people pass on items of sentimental value. At one point I'd have said a high enough allowance to let people pass on their house to their kids, but tbh who except the rich can even buy a house worth passing on these days. e: April 28th, 1945: Benito Mussolini, father of fascism, sets an excellent example for all his followers when he is executed by an antifa firing squad. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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In non pink-rubbery-tax-dodging-gently caress news, more loving over of the poor;Conservative council set to fine homeless people £50 for begging posted:Worthing Council is set to fine homeless people £50 if they beg for money in the street, using controversial legislation introduced in 2014. Holy loving poo poo.
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I know the most expedient answer. Cam sold the shares to his disabled and dead child in utero, and still kept claiming carer's allowance
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Apr 7, 2016 19:27
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Pesky Splinter posted:In non pink-rubbery-tax-dodging-gently caress news, more loving over of the poor; Ahhhhahahahahhaa what the poo poo this is stupider than asking the NHS to take loans to pay wages then fining them for not paying them back. And that was p. loving stupid. How the gently caress is fining someone 50 quid WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY loving MONEY ever going to work?!
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It'll go nowhere because the slimy fucker seems to weasel out of every gently caress up but I will continue to hope that this revelation combined with the £9m leaflet mailing to stay in the EU will lead to Pigfucker's downfall.
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thespaceinvader posted:How the gently caress is fining someone 50 quid WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY loving MONEY ever going to work?! well then you fine them even more for not being able to pay their fines, simple
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Angepain posted:well then you throw in a privately run for-profit prison for not being able to pay their fines, simple Just like they do in america
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thespaceinvader posted:How the gently caress is fining someone 50 quid WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY loving MONEY ever going to work?! It's incredible his argument is basically "Don't want those ghastly poors pauping up the place". Just fine them even more for not being able to pay the fine. Problem solved.  Has he loving time-travelled or something from the Victorian age!?
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thespaceinvader posted:Ahhhhahahahahhaa what the poo poo this is stupider than asking the NHS to take loans to pay wages then fining them for not paying them back. And that was p. loving stupid. They are giving this a go here in Chelmsford. Other councils are trying to use it to criminalise skateboarding in high streets and assembly of two people or more in public . Even Gadaffi didn't manage that.
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Trickjaw posted:They are giving this a go here in Chelmsford. Other councils are trying to use it to criminalise skateboarding in high streets and assembly of two people or more in public . Even Gadaffi didn't manage that. Top authoritarian award is still probably Salford though, where it's 'illegal' to use foul or abusive language in public around MediaCity in Salford Quays.
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namesake posted:Top authoritarian award is still probably Salford though, where it's 'illegal' to use foul or abusive language in public around MediaCity in Salford Quays. loving cunting rat cocks.
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I love the people going "But it was legal what's the problem"? Ignoring Cameron went to the EU to make sure they didn't pass a law making this sort of poo poo illegal. On reflection we should have spotted that Cameron's first act when coming to power was to retroactively legalize sex acts on any legally purchased pork products.
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Pesky Splinter posted:It's incredible his argument is basically "Don't want those ghastly poors pauping up the place". Just fine them even more for not being able to pay the fine. Problem solved. There's something on tv right now called "Workers or Shirkers? Ian Hislop's Victorian Benefits"
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quote:I don’t care if they are homeless or have a million pounds stashed away in Panama. I have a young daughter and I don’t want her thinking should I or should I not go into Worthing because they are acting in such a foul manner. There should be a resounding message: ‘no, you should not and will not act in such an appalling way in our town'. Can we start a goon project to murder this man, please? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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How damaging is the data the guardian got for Cameron to literally preventively admit lying, just a few days after denying everything?
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baka kaba posted:There's something on tv right now called "Workers or Shirkers? Ian Hislop's Victorian Benefits" I hear IDS is on it too!
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quote:“There should be a resounding message: ‘no, you should not and will not act in such an appalling way in our town'." Yes, there should be
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baka kaba posted:There's something on tv right now called "Workers or Shirkers? Ian Hislop's Victorian Benefits" I can't watch it right now, but that's where that clip of IDS crying crocodile tears is from. mrpwase posted:Can we start a goon project to murder this man, please? Before posting it I had to check the date, because I genuinely thought the article was an April Fools article when I got to his quote, because it felt too unbelieveable and too much of a Tory stereotype. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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baka kaba posted:"Ian Hislop's Victorian Benefits"
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TACD posted:Apparently the 'greenest government ever' has decided it can make do without a climate change envoy. Never mind, I'm sure we'll sort the climate out once all this tax business is out of the way. In fairness shutting down heavy industry is pretty ecological.
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big scary monsters posted:Actually it should be 100% with some allowance to let people pass on items of sentimental value. At one point I'd have said a high enough allowance to let people pass on their house to their kids, but tbh who except the rich can even buy a house worth passing on these days. I couldn't even begin to pay for my home. In fact I'm probably the definitive example that they roll out when they talk about Inheritance Tax reform, because were it not for me having already bought half of it, I'd have had to sell it to pay the tax when my dad died in January. This house has way more sentimental value than anything else (inanimate) in my life, being the one I spent most of my childhood in, and why should it be allowed to fall into the hands of the buy-to-let crowd rather than staying a family home?
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Toplowtech posted:How damaging is the data the guardian got for Cameron to literally preventively admit lying, just a few days after denying everything? No idea, but it's hugely damaging to Corbyn. He should resign imo.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I couldn't even begin to pay for my home. In fact I'm probably the definitive example that they roll out when they talk about Inheritance Tax reform, because were it not for me having already bought half of it, I'd have had to sell it to pay the tax when my dad died in January. This house has way more sentimental value than anything else (inanimate) in my life, being the one I spent most of my childhood in, and why should it be allowed to fall into the hands of the buy-to-let crowd rather than staying a family home? Well when all the houses go to the state on the death of their owners the social housing supply could rather improve, couldn't it? Even if people sell their homes off before their deaths for the cash instead, it still brings prices way down because their beneficiaries who would have been sitting on a bunch of property thy could exploit for profit no longer are, and it's presumably much harder to build up a vast property empire when you don't have the advantage of inheriting vast swathes of Scotland (like the Duke of Westminster, for instance). So you'd be much more likely to be able to afford to actually buy your childhood home if that's important to you.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I couldn't even begin to pay for my home. In fact I'm probably the definitive example that they roll out when they talk about Inheritance Tax reform, because were it not for me having already bought half of it, I'd have had to sell it to pay the tax when my dad died in January. This house has way more sentimental value than anything else (inanimate) in my life, being the one I spent most of my childhood in, and why should it be allowed to fall into the hands of the buy-to-let crowd rather than staying a family home? Assuming you didn't buy half, what claim would you have to it besides having lived in it? Would that claim be any more valid than the claim of someone living in a council house?
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April 8th is the Anniversary of Thatcher's Death. If someone gets Cameron to resign tomorrow can it be made into a UKMT national holiday? It all seems to be blowing over now though, so I guess they got out from the worst of i- http://www.channel4.com/news/george-osborne-family-business-6m-deal-with-offshore-firm quote:Chancellor George Osborne, who owns a 15% stake in his family’s business Osborne & Little Group Ltd, ‘personally benefited’ from the sale of £6m worth of property to a company based in the British Virgin Islands – a well-known tax haven. quote:David Quentin, a Barrister and Senior Advisor to the Tax Justice Network said that Osborne & Little were fully aware that they were dealing with a company based in an offshore tax-haven, stating: 
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big scary monsters posted:Well when all the houses go to the state on the death of their owners the social housing supply could rather improve, couldn't it? Even if people sell their homes off before their deaths for the cash instead, it still brings prices way down because their beneficiaries who would have been sitting on a bunch of property thy could exploit for profit no longer are, and it's presumably much harder to build up a vast property empire when you don't have the advantage of inheriting vast swathes of Scotland (like the Duke of Westminster, for instance). So you'd be much more likely to be able to afford to actually buy your childhood home if that's important to you. I personally wouldn't mind a qualitative income tax exception. You can inherit one house tax free if you don't already own one, or if you are willing to sell your current one to the government.
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dispatch_async posted:
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OwlFancier posted:I personally wouldn't mind a qualitative income tax exception. You can inherit one house tax free if you don't already own one, or if you are willing to sell your current one to the government. I'd want some recognition of the fact that some houses are nicer than others to be incorporated. I don't think 'having always lived in a mansion', or otherwise particularly desirable location, is enough reason to carry on being so lucky.
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Oh dear me posted:I'd want some recognition of the fact that some houses are nicer than others to be incorporated. I don't think 'having always lived in a mansion', or otherwise particularly desirable location, is enough reason to carry on being so lucky. Eh, I'm not too worried about mansions being inherited. There aren't very many mansions and generally people who stand to inherit them already own property. If someone who doesn't own a house inherits a mansion, good for them. Also not too bothered about people trading up via inheritance. The state gets a house out of it, or if the person doesn't feel like selling their own house/the state isn't willing to buy their current one, they can just pay the tax.
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So I remembered what that SovCit billboard had on the way home and lmao http://legalnamefraud.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyct80HALzc
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OwlFancier posted:I personally wouldn't mind a qualitative income tax exception. You can inherit one house tax free if you don't already own one, or if you are willing to sell your current one to the government. There was a story a couple years back when the Earl of Lonsdale put Blencathra up for sale to help pay off the inheritance tax (approx £9m) on his father's estate, and there was a whole big sob story along with it where he tried to drum up crowd funding to buy it. Have to admit I found it difficult to have much sympathy, I know getting the cash up front to pay the tax isn't necessarily easy, but at the end of it he was still getting eight figures of property for nothing thanks to an accident of birth.
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mrpwase posted:Can we start a goon project to murder this man, please? https://twitter.com/dan_humphreys
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EvilGenius posted:Can we tile this as the background for this thread?
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jabby posted:Assuming you didn't buy half, what claim would you have to it besides having lived in it? Would that claim be any more valid than the claim of someone living in a council house? Well I paid the mortgage on it for 7 years while my parents owned it because they were having financial problems, I've lived in it for over 20 years in total, and my family have lived here for coming on for 40 years. Inheritance tax doesn't pass the house back to the state for being recycled into council housing - I wouldn't mind that so much but if we're talking utopianism lets go back to the terms my parents lived under, where you could be a council tenant but sitll know you had the same assurance as a leaseholder, and I'd be happily living in a council flat somewhere else in Tower Hamlets rather than in pretty much the only house inside zone 2 I can afford on my wages. Note that saying "Well why should you get to keep living there now that the area has gentrified?" or variations thereof will put you on the same side of the the argument as tentish klown, if that hateful little poo poo still posts here.
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The problem with all this is, with our current government the state seems to be obsessed with selling off all the housing stock, presumably to assist with laundering the plundered blood money of warlords, drug dealers and third world dictators who spend their time whipping dissidents to death in their custom-built rape dungeons.
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Fans posted:April 8th is the Anniversary of Thatcher's Death. If someone gets Cameron to resign tomorrow can it be made into a UKMT national holiday? So the Prime Minister and Chancellor both took part in tax avoidance.
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